Borg: Star trek 1 spawn?

[Johnny7oak]

This may be odd to some, but when Decker joined with V'ger did they end up in the Delta quadrant. Was Q showing Humanity what they had done to the galaxy? Progress. Ready for anything? even what they may have unleashed upon themselves...

Anyone have any references to cite here? Aside that I think the Borg queen mentions there was him...who died long ago, was this Decker?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The Borg race is thousands of years old. So they were around way before Decker, Ilia or V'Ger ever were.

 

[JRoss]

Lots of people have had that idea. But V'Ger is several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything the Collective can create. It's crazy huge and powerful. The Federation would have been wipeed out following Best of Both Worlds.

 

[Timo]

Creation of the Borg out of V'Ger would have required time travel, yes. But the novel writers decided to create the Borg out of contemporary events via time travel anyway, so that would have been no real obstacle...

But yes, V'Ger is powerful and young. Furthermore, it shares none of the Borg agendas. It doesn't assimilate biological life in order to improve the standards of existence of that life. Indeed, it considers biological life an infestation best destroyed. And it doesn't want to add to its own perfection, merely to its knowledge.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Michael]

I think this and “What happens when a Borg assimilates a Founder?” are two of the most frequently repeated fan theories that come up around here. Those and “Tuvix deserved to die, because he held two crewmembers hostage.”

 

[at Quark's]

Lots of people have had that idea. But V'Ger is several orders of magnitude more powerful than anything the Collective can create. It's crazy huge and powerful. The Federation would have been wipeed out following Best of Both Worlds.

This. To give another example: compared to an entity (or civilization) that can create in short order a probe that

"replicated the body of Ilia down to the smallest detail, including pheromones and sweat glands, with molecule-sized microprocessors and billions of connected mechanisms. Even the memory patterns in Ilia's brain were replicated, allowing the crew of the Enterprise to attempt to revive the memories and emotions of the navigator through stimulus."

(mem alpha)

the technology in your average drone, advanced as it may be, seems a definite step backwards.

 

[USS Triumphant]

The closest I could come for something like this would be the idea that the Voyager probe somehow got flung back in time, met the Borg during their early days when, for whatever reason, they decided to fix and upgrade it rather than just assimilate it, and then it has grown in vastness and power through the other things it encountered in the meantime.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The Borg wouldn't have assimilated V'Ger. They would have dismissed it as too primitive and unworthy.

 

[Timo]

Indeed, the opposite is more likely: that the powerful V'Ger would create the feeble and fragile Borg as a hobby project, perhaps in order to examine how to best get rid of biological infestations. Or even quite accidentally, while fiddling with the creation of more of his beloved purely machinelike life (the nanoprobes).

Timo Saloniemi