BIG NEMESIS PLOT HOLE
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I heard they also cut Patrick Stewart breaking into tears in the scene where Riker and Picard say goodbye to each other. I can kinda understand that since it might have been cheesy and might have made Stewart feel embarassed or exploited for a scene where he wasn't actually acting being used for dramatic effect, but it might have also given the movie more heart, which it sorely needed. I remember on the last episode of "That 70's Show" there seemed to be a scene where it was really obvious that an actress was crying out of character when another actress (in character) said goodbye to her and I thought it added to the episode wonderfully.
Because alternate cuts of a movie are an option, not a requirement. Stuart Baird doesn't believe in doing alternate "director's editions" for his films. The edition we got is the director's edition, as far as the director himself is concerned.
^Like it or not, it's his movie, and it should be his decision. Sure, you can say that the studio should be entitled to override the decisions of a director whose work you're dissatisfied with, but the flipside of that is that they're entitled to override the decisions of directors whose work you do like. The sad fact is that studios already do routinely override directors' creative vision, and the result is detrimental over 90% of the time.
Indeed, that's why we get directors' cuts on DVD in the first place: because in America, it's the studio rather than the director that gets the final cut on a film, and so many movies reach theaters in a form their directors are dissatisfied with. So there's the flaw in your logic: the version of NEM that hit theaters was the one Paramount was happy with, so they'd have no incentive to change it.
Personally, I think we've gotten absurdly spoiled -- in just a few short years since special cuts started coming out on DVD, we've come to think of them as an entitlement rather than a bonus. Nobody should have to justify the decision not to do one, because it's not a requirement.
Indeed, that's why we get directors' cuts on DVD in the first place: because in America, it's the studio rather than the director that gets the final cut on a film, and so many movies reach theaters in a form their directors are dissatisfied with. So there's the flaw in your logic: the version of NEM that hit theaters was the one Paramount was happy with, so they'd have no incentive to change it.
Personally, I think we've gotten absurdly spoiled -- in just a few short years since special cuts started coming out on DVD, we've come to think of them as an entitlement rather than a bonus. Nobody should have to justify the decision not to do one, because it's not a requirement.
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Guess I was wrong. Memory Alpha says they are "Kolaran natives".
mistreated by romulans.i want to destroy earth ,light years away.so stupid.
build a super ship in a prison? too stupid.
buggy scene..stupid very.
scimitar too cartoonish.
shinzon a baldy with bulging head veins.wants picard blood but wastes time talking.
ramming scene..lame. pointless.just fire a photon into a gaping hole instead.
b4 moronic.appeared out of nowhere light years away.
rom warbirds lame i wanted deridrex not cheapo voarchers
^Shinzon hated Romulans, yes, but he also hated his humanity. He identified himself as Reman, but genetically he was human, a clone of Picard. So in order to become truly Reman, he had to purge that humanity from himself by killing Picard and destroying the human homeworld.
^It's true that the attack on Earth was a gratuitous plot development forced by the modern need for all SF motion pictures to be big, high-stakes action stories. I blame that on the motion picture industry as a whole rather than on this particular film. But Shinzon's character, his sense of Reman identity and his hatred of his humanity, was well enough established that it allows connecting the dots, and in my opinion, salvages a weak plot point by providing a character-based justification for it.
