Best Trek episode of 1966! What is YOUR choice?

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What is your choice for NyCon "Best Dramatic Presentation" Hugo?

  1. The Man Trap

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  2. Charlie X

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Where No Man Has Gone Before

    6 vote(s)
    9.2%
  4. The Naked Time

    6 vote(s)
    9.2%
  5. The Enemy Within

    2 vote(s)
    3.1%
  6. Mudd's Women

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. What are Little Girls Made of?

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  8. Miri

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Dagger of the Mind

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  10. Corbomite Manuever

    17 vote(s)
    26.2%
  11. The Menagerie

    10 vote(s)
    15.4%
  12. Conscience of the King

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  13. Balance of Terror

    17 vote(s)
    26.2%
  14. Shore Leave

    3 vote(s)
    4.6%
  15. Something else... (please describe)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Foxhot

    Foxhot Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    NAKED TIME all the way. Especially for best-establishing TOS's most popular character.
     
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  2. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Commodore Commodore

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    You mean swashbuckling Sulu, right? ;-)
     
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    Kevin Riley!
     
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  4. fireproof78

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    The Bowling Alley!
     
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  5. Foxhot

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    Great minds think differently. Perhaps there might be an bowling alley onboard, but if so, why are Chekov, Chapel and Spock never using it?
     
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  6. Richard S. Ta

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    Everyone went mad for it when it was first installed, but over a series of long voyages the novelty wore off and it fell into disuse.

    After some time had passed, Spock designated the area as a place specifically for 'things a member of the crew does not want, but has no easy way to dispose of'.

    In the Enterprise's final years the entire court was littered with duff dilithium crystals, unnattractive gifts from well meaning aliens, various malevolent entities somehow trapped within their own individual devices and a huge heap of Janice Rand's wigs.

    The whole thing was on whatever deck got blown out in TWOK.

    That's all canon BTW.
     
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  7. Maurice

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    For all its strengths I can't give "Balance of Terror" too much credit since it's a rip-off of The Enemy Below in starship drag.

    The main thing I like about "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is that at it's a core a very good drama. Protagonist (Kirk) makes a choice and takes a risk which results in serious consequences which endanger his entire ship and crew and made a monster out of an old friend, and he has to shoulder than responsibility and fix the problem at no small personal cost. Drama is about making difficult choices.

    "Corbomite" ought to be #1 except the pace flags in places, exemplified when they try to break away from Balok's pilot ship, which goes on and on and on.
     
  8. Neopeius

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    I'd like it a lot more if

    1) We got to see even one scene of pre-change Gary+Kirk. We never feel the sense of loss because we only see marble-eyed Gary
    2) Shatner's performance were more nuanced. He hadn't quite gotten the role yet (I know folks disagree with me. That's fine.)
    The crew tumble in the hall THREE TIMES. It was more an excuse to develop a great music suite to be used elsewhere than a good episode...
     
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  9. ZapBrannigan

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    That's surprising. I think the tractor beam fight is one of the best parts. Fred Steiner's music is another highlight, especially "Cube Radiation." And there are lots of other things to like.

    Really the only part I don't like, and that becomes repetitive, is where Balok uses a loud and growing sound to hurt everyone's ears. One of those would have been enough.
     
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    Scotty couldn't get used to the extra pin. It threw his game off.
     
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    Yes, that's a major weakness in the episode.
     
  12. Lord Garth

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    "The Enemy Within"
     
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  13. Foxhot

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    Certainly true.....but TOS from THE CAGE and well beyond is still TV's FORBIDDEN PLANET, only with lengthier mass recognition.

    John Wayne used ''pilgrim'' at least 45 times in LIBERTY VALANCE, so it's good to keep things in perspective here. That's too much an obvious veer-off, of course, so I'll mention a few things CORBOMITE doesn't have or need: Majel Barrett, the infamous repetitive Sulu stock-shot, kids shouting ''bonk-bonk'', McCoy giving Kirky free passes on his captainly conduct, lack of tension between Kirky and Spocko, or Uhura saying ''Hailing frequencies o------''

    Never mind. With luck they cut the third tumble in syndication.
     
  14. Maurice

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    I'm by no means saying WNMHGB is perfect. It leans really heavily on TV shorthand of saying Kirk and Mitchell are friends instead of showing it as much as I'd want. Kirk's reasoning for driving into the barrier is unconvincing and foolhardly, and in any real navy he'd have lost his command for it.

    As to the "Corbomite" tractor beam fight, it does go on too long; even the music crescendos and then has to keep trudging on.
     
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  15. Neopeius

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    No, it's not. The only common elements they have is taking place on another planet and very high production values. Forbidden Planet is '50s stag schlock.

    God I hate that movie. :)
     
  16. Maurice

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    We have a memo which confirms Roddenberry viewed Forbidden Planet and even wanted frame enlargements to look at how they did their spaceship instruments to inform their thinking. How much the film did or did not influence other aspects of Trek is speculation at best.

    That film's main fault is the full 50s sexism on display. I just fast forward any time men be ogling or otherwise talking about Altira.

    But that's all off-topic.
     
  17. Neopeius

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    I'd love to see that! It could be a lot or a little. Kubrick asked Dr. Who how they did the weightlessness effects in one of their serials while he was making 2001.

    And the constant whipping out of guns. And the extreme stupidity of the Captain. Gah.

    The deuce you say!
     
  18. Maurice

    Maurice FACT TREKKING across the universe... Premium Member

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    I have heard that, but I don’t know what the source of the assertion is.
     
  19. Neopeius

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    Voila. Better sourced than the Ellison claim. :)
     
  20. Foxhot

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    Really now.:cool: