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Bashir and Sarina; a lost Romance

Even though Bashir ended up with Ezri, at the end of DS9’s great run, I still think his true love was actually Sarina. She was the autistic girl who was part of Jack’s pack that Bashir healed in a later episode. As you all well know, Bashir fell in love with her but, oh my beating heart, she didn’t have those feeling for him. So she leaves the station to explore the wonders of the universe.

I thought that episode, when he cures her but she leaves at the end, was a real tear-jerker. Bashir finally finds that someone he really love and..it just doesn’t work. Damn!!! That same thing happend to me once in my life, so I was right there with him!!!

So I wrote this song, all the way back there when it aired. In my mind, as he says goodbye to her at the docking platform, he would sing this song to her…

THIS I KNOW >>>>>>>>> engage
 
I'd pay to have that edited into the episode. Nice work!

I don't know if you've read any of the relaunch novels, but there's at least one good instance I can think of where he could have that played for Ezri too!
 
I'd pay to have that edited into the episode. Nice work!

I don't know if you've read any of the relaunch novels, but there's at least one good instance I can think of where he could have that played for Ezri too!

I am going to get all the relaunch books, if they have them, on my new SONY READER. I will be starting KRAD's Slings and Arrows soon..but I want to read those relaunch books because I miss DS9 so much..

how do you rate that book series on a 1-10 scale?

Rob
 
I'd pay to have that edited into the episode. Nice work!

I don't know if you've read any of the relaunch novels, but there's at least one good instance I can think of where he could have that played for Ezri too!

Yep. :(

Hey, Rob--I dunno if you're still reading fanfic, but... my own "A Rendezvous With Destiny" heavily refers to Ezri's arc in the relaunch. It's my explanation for why she does what she does....

(Shameless ad. Sorry....)

BTW, though I have about all the relaunch in my library, I must admit, all I've really read is Ezri's and Julian's arcs. (Research for my stories....)

Suffice it to say...I often found myself sighing, and shaking my head.
 
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The DS9 novels have been the best Star Trek fiction published in the last decade and I think a great deal of people would agree with me. The only slight gripe I have with them is that they've never really truly dealt with the aftermath of the Dominion War IMHO. There was a novel planned that was to deal with Starfleet members suffering from post traumatic stress disorder from the war which got cancelled unfortunately.
 
Tallis dude, your subconcious is having a jarring diametric opposite opinion to the rest of you.

Her name was Serena, as in serenity.

Calm and quiet.

Sarin, on the other hand is a deadly nerve toxin used by terrorists to demoish democracy.

Your subconcious thinks she is poison.

And maybe she was?

Personly I thought he was to blame. It was sick of Julian to take advantage of a patient in such a confused and vulnerable state.

What a bad doctor.
 
I did google... but I must have found a page that was a bad speller and...

Bugger it.

I'm still right.

Just about the wrong person.

It was the writers subconsciousnesses which were playing silly buggers with us or themselves.
 
I thought that episode, when he cures her but she leaves at the end, was a real tear-jerker.

I disagree. Sarina was a 'love interest of the week' and as with all 'love interest of the week' episodes of Trek, it was incredibly lame, unbelievable, and emotionally unaffecting.

Not only that, Chrysalis is completely unwatchable other than for Nog's scene in the teaser, which is the only good and/or watchable scene in the whole episode.

If it is tearjerker then that is because they totally wasted a perfectly good episode slot on unwatchable standalone filler nonsense rather than expanding the story of the series (Dominion War etc.). That is indeed worth crying over.
 
I thought that episode, when he cures her but she leaves at the end, was a real tear-jerker.

I disagree. Sarina was a 'love interest of the week' and as with all 'love interest of the week' episodes of Trek, it was incredibly lame, unbelievable, and emotionally unaffecting.

Not only that, Chrysalis is completely unwatchable other than for Nog's scene in the teaser, which is the only good and/or watchable scene in the whole episode.

If it is tearjerker then that is because they totally wasted a perfectly good episode slot on unwatchable standalone filler nonsense rather than expanding the story of the series (Dominion War etc.). That is indeed worth crying over.

you could say the same thing about the baseball episode, and the Badda Bing Badda Boom...and in either case? I thought some of the so called "war episodes" were iffy at best. So...we will just have to disagree..I'll take episodes like HIS WAY or THE VISITOR over war episodes all the time.

Rob
 
I thought it was a very good episode. Sure, it was a 'love interest of the week', but it was one of the best love-interest-of-the-week stories in all Trek, IMO, and certainly not a standard one. Sarina was an interesting character (personally, I enjoyed the Jack Pack in general), and Bashir's cluelessness with women, which used to be a source of comic relief in early seasons, was for once tragic and sad. Colm Meaney was great in the scene when Bashir is telling O'Brien about Sarina being the woman of his dreams, and O'Brien obviously gets the idea what is going on but isn't sure whether to speak up or not - it's such a recognizable situation when you don't know if it's worse to hurt your friend by confronting them with the truth and telling them what they're doing is wrong and a huge mistake, or to remain silent. I think this sums up the episode really well:
Spock and Uhura in Trek XI are literally the first Trek couple that I think have a shot at not being boring/annoying/written at an obnoxiously juvenile level.

Other than Sisko and Yates, I (sadly) agree.

My favorite Trek relationship was probably Bashir and Sarina Douglas, but that's far from immune from your criticism--it's just that he was supposed to be operating at an obnoxiously juvenile level. However, this is first time they actually followed through on the consequences of Bashir (or anyone) perpetually acting like an idiot man-child when it came to girls.
 
Yup--and I think this is why he goes so slowly with Ezri--such as in "When It Rains...", when he seems to try to push her away--albeit because he misunderstands what she's trying to tell him.

I think the incident with Sarina shook him up, and taught him to be more careful and respectful towards women from that point on. In effect, it got him to "man up".

Also, Julian and Ezri's moment on the Promenade in "Dogs of War" implies that the pair realize that they have to be absolutely sure they're both serious about this, because of the consequences of it going wrong....
 
Although I like the Ezri/Bashir paring, to me it felt forced. Sarina was far more natural, and really was far romantic the way it was handled. Romance just never seemed to be a part of the ezri/bashir relationship.

Rom and leeta? That was romantic!

Rob
 
Hmm...how do you define "romance", then, Rob?

I'm not bashing or anything--just curious. (Or call it research....)
 
Although I like the Ezri/Bashir paring, to me it felt forced. Sarina was far more natural, and really was far romantic the way it was handled. Romance just never seemed to be a part of the ezri/bashir relationship.

Rom and leeta? That was romantic!

Rob

Funny, if you reverse the occurrences of Ezri and Sarina I agree.

Then again, the Jack Pack never worked for me, and Bashir going all puppy-dog over someone who's in his care (not to mention making an ass of himself in general) is fairly unsettling to me. Like intentionally going after someone you know is on the rebound.
 
Although I like the Ezri/Bashir paring, to me it felt forced. Sarina was far more natural, and really was far romantic the way it was handled. Romance just never seemed to be a part of the ezri/bashir relationship.

Rom and leeta? That was romantic!

Rob

Funny, if you reverse the occurrences of Ezri and Sarina I agree.

Then again, the Jack Pack never worked for me, and Bashir going all puppy-dog over someone who's in his care (not to mention making an ass of himself in general) is fairly unsettling to me. Like intentionally going after someone you know is on the rebound.

True..but his and Ezri's relationship, IMO, was forced. I just never felt the chemistry there, at all. It worked in the end, but I felt it was all manufactured. Jake/Ezri would have been a more romantic and 'interesting' coupling. I wish they would have toyed with that longer than they did...i thought it was cute.

Sarina and Bashir came out of nowhere, and had that feeling of 'suddeness' as some of fiction's best romances do.

Rob
 
Ah...you liked the "suddeness" of Sarina/Julian...but you wish they would've toyed with Ezri/Julian...longer...:confused:

Okay.

As for the issue of being "forced"...frankly, isn't the whole concept of "Love At First Sight", by nature forced? Not saying it's bad, just...it's used when the writer feels he/she/they doesn't have the time to develop it, or something....
 
I thought it was a very good episode. Sure, it was a 'love interest of the week', but it was one of the best love-interest-of-the-week stories in all Trek, IMO, and certainly not a standard one. Sarina was an interesting character (personally, I enjoyed the Jack Pack in general), and Bashir's cluelessness with women, which used to be a source of comic relief in early seasons, was for once tragic and sad. Colm Meaney was great in the scene when Bashir is telling O'Brien about Sarina being the woman of his dreams, and O'Brien obviously gets the idea what is going on but isn't sure whether to speak up or not - it's such a recognizable situation when you don't know if it's worse to hurt your friend by confronting them with the truth and telling them what they're doing is wrong and a huge mistake, or to remain silent. I think this sums up the episode really well:
Spock and Uhura in Trek XI are literally the first Trek couple that I think have a shot at not being boring/annoying/written at an obnoxiously juvenile level.

Other than Sisko and Yates, I (sadly) agree.

My favorite Trek relationship was probably Bashir and Sarina Douglas, but that's far from immune from your criticism--it's just that he was supposed to be operating at an obnoxiously juvenile level. However, this is first time they actually followed through on the consequences of Bashir (or anyone) perpetually acting like an idiot man-child when it came to girls.
:D Still, it rang true for this idiot man-child.

Between the two, I could see something happening a few years down the line, after she's gotten used to the world again, and after she experiences the casual bigotry the genetically engineered apparently face in the 24th century. She might start realizing what drove Bashir to go after her in the first place, despite the ethical problems inherent in it. (I mean, her other Augment option is freakin' Jack. Or Patrick. Yikes.)

But you've got to wonder about Bashir. He had, iirc, three big romantic stories.

The first was with a woman who might have been literally retarded. Okay, she probably wasn't that bad off, but Leeta was pretty dumb. Hot, but dumb. This isn't bad. It's not unethical or unhealthy to have sex with hot, stupid people. However...

The second was with Ms. Douglas, who was his patient. That's messed up, as has been discussed before.

And the third was with Ezri Dax. The resurrected form of the Dax symbiont. The same symbiont that lived in the woman whom he, like the total dork he is, pined for on-and-off for years.

It's like if someone you had a huge crush on rejected you, so you started banging her little sister instead. Personally, I think Ezri's tons cuter and more likeable, but it's still got to be an issue with them. He's got to ask "Why weren't you with me when you were her? Am I a second choice here?" and she's got to ask "Am I just second rate wish-fulfillment? Are you just corpsefucking Jadzia?" Personally, I wouldn't reckon it would last.

Then again, they got together by realizing they had the common trait of being bumbly dorks, so maybe they're soul mates. Who knows?

Also, this post is a bit harsh on Bashir. I actually do rather like the character. Like I said, I identify. :p

Oh, and fun fact--it turns out Nicole de Boer was in the Kids in the Hall movie, Brain Candy. Only a few lines, but she is wicked hot. I'd forgotten she was Canadian.
 
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