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Audiophiles can't tell the diff btw Monster Cable and coat hangers!

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But Monster Cables are gold plated and shielded and spiffy and will increase your IQ by 20 points and your penis length by a few inches!

This just cracked me up--they weren't comparing those overpriced things to ordinary priced store bought cables but to modified coat hangers. :guffaw:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/

Monster does have the world's best marketing though considering people are willing to pay through the nose for negligible gain. :brickwall:
 
Re: Audiophiles can't tell the diff btw Monster Cable and coat hangers

I thought it was an "open secret" that Monster Cables were a load of crap.
 
Re: Audiophiles can't tell the diff btw Monster Cable and coat hangers

scotthm said:
Chaos Descending said:
I thought it was an "open secret" that Monster Cables were a load of crap.
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No, there's nothing wrong with Monster Cables, other than the price.
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Well, I've also heard that because their actual cable part of the cable set is so well insulated and whatnot, that they're extremely stiff and have a tendency to be a bit difficult in hooking up in tight quarters, as well as coming loose from the jacks because of that stiffness.
 
Re: Audiophiles can't tell the diff btw Monster Cable and coat hangers

Buying a Monster Cable is just like buying a Lexus. It looks pretty, it has the elite caste, and it's expensive, but underneath, it's just a Toyota.
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

Ummm, nowhere in that "article" does it cite where, when or to whom this supposedly happened. There are no references whatsoever.

I have no love for Monster, I don't use their cables, in fact I use cheap crap I get for free in the box with whatever cheap crap I just bought. But please, I could make up a lot funnier news than this and post it on a blog.
 
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I've no doubt it's true. As an audiophile myself and coming from a musical family that still practices and plays often, I've used every brand of cable I could get my hands on. Monster was one of them. The sound quality improvement really is negligible in comparison with less expensive manufacturers.
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?

My point is, this is the science and tech forum, a few months back there was decent debate over whether Wikipedia was sufficient to cite from. We're talking here about an article that doesn't cite anything. There's no science here, it's just spam.
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

quote=LaxScrutiny;1406436]You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?

My point is, this is the science and tech forum, a few months back there was decent debate over whether Wikipedia was sufficient to cite from. We're talking here about an article that doesn't cite anything. There's no science here, it's just spam.[/quote]

I haven't read any audiophile magzines in some time (my dad used to get TAS and Stereophile) but there's long been be questioned asked about whether some of the highend cables were really worth it.

And it seems to come down to the high snob factor, the bigger the snob, the more expensive the cables (monster cables, oyxgen free - all hooey, even when there was some improvement the reviewers were already using equipment worth 10s of 1000s of dollars but the cost of the cables just wasn't cost effect but if you've spent all that money why not got just a bit futher).

Yeah I know that cables can make a difference (heard it personall) but sometimes going to the extremes just isn't worth it.
 
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LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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That's right, I have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality as a high end Monster Cable. I'm a damn picky audiophile myself, and I do have perfect pitch, and can detect slight nuances in musical recordings.

Here's an article from The Consumerist in case you'd like another point of view:

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My point is, this is the science and tech forum, a few months back there was decent debate over whether Wikipedia was sufficient to cite from. We're talking here about an article that doesn't cite anything. There's no science here, it's just spam.
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What do people who have hypotheses cite? Other experiments, other analyses, other hypotheses. If all you want to talk about is science already discovered and questions already answered, be my guest. I'd rather include every possibility in the science and technology forum.
 
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LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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Not necessarily. While I have little doubt that a coat hanger can be an adequate conductor for a short distance, it's nowhere near as convenient to use as a good, stranded, copper conductor.

By the way, Monster Cable, as expensive as it is, is nothing compared to some of the other brands on the market.

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scotthm said:
LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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Not necessarily. While I have little doubt that a coat hanger can be an adequate conductor for a short distance, it's nowhere near as convenient to use as a good, stranded, copper conductor.

By the way, Monster Cable, as expensive as it is, is nothing compared to some of the other brands on the market.

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It's like Starbucks coffee. It's pretty good, but expensive, and you can always find better.
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

Until Starbucks takes over the world, anyway... :devil: :lol:
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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Only if you don't care about having any flexibility in your cable. Or having jacks attached on each end. :thumbsup:
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

ATimson said:
LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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Only if you don't care about having any flexibility in your cable. Or having jacks attached on each end. :thumbsup:
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Yep. You win the prize. :D
 
Re: Trek BBSers can't tell the diff btw spam and coat hangers

scotthm said:
LaxScrutiny said:
You have no doubt a coat hanger gives the same quality? And if the difference is negligable to a coat hanger, aren't we getting just as ripped off paying $5 for a cheap cable?
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Not necessarily. While I have little doubt that a coat hanger can be an adequate conductor for a short distance, it's nowhere near as convenient to use as a good, stranded, copper conductor.
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Right. And for longer distances, I'd want something that was shielded, which would be challenging to do with coat hangers but certainly possible for non-Monster prices. After all, what we're talking about is just a piece of wire. :)

My point is, this is the science and tech forum, a few months back there was decent debate over whether Wikipedia was sufficient to cite from. We're talking here about an article that doesn't cite anything. There's no science here, it's just spam.
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What do people who have hypotheses cite? Other experiments, other analyses, other hypotheses. If all you want to talk about is science already discovered and questions already answered, be my guest. I'd rather include every possibility in the science and technology forum.
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People who have hypotheses base them on other work, which can (and should) be cited. Cited work is not exclusively the realm of things "already answered." Furthermore, to prove a hypothesis (such as coat hangers being equivalent to overpriced cables), some data must be presented. A paragraph posted on some blog doesn't quite cut it.
 
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