I don't think I would want to own the remastered version just because of that enhanced singing in the intro
Are the non cgi sets going out of print?
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On dvdempire they are listed as discontinued by the manufacturer and amazon only has used copies of season three and the three season set.
When they are eventually re-released with extra features, Paramount/CBS will be accused of more double dipping.
How many times has every Disney movie been released on home video/DVD "for the very last time"?
How many times has every Disney movie been released on home video/DVD "for the very last time"?
They might, for awhile, until the world comes to its senses and realizes that it was a terrible idea in the first place, much like colorizing black and white movies was.
I was afraid of this happening when they announced the cgi version coming out. So I bit the bullet and picked them up at Walmart a few years ago when they were marked down from the $100+ price down to the $59 range.
Ditto! (ROFL) I too also feared the worst and bit the bullet as soon as I heard of the coming CGI'd versions!
I hit upon a then-great deal for $120 for all three seasons (last I looked, this had become a semi-normal price).
The beauty for me personally, is that no matter what anyone decides, debates, argues, releases, stops, starts, does, re-does, un-does, etc. ...I still have my originals. Just the way I remember them from pre-syndication days!
Why not just fast forward past it? AFAIK, the next DVD chapter starts when the first scene (after the teaser) does.
That's why I think they should make both sets available. The originals are a snapshot of the time they were created in. I wasn't around in the '60s, but watching TOS brings to mind all the things that were going on around me when I was growing up in the '80s when I became a fan of the show. I like to see them as I remember them. I don't want to watch it and be reminded that it's 2008.
I store mine in a hermetically sealed, fireproof safe in my bomb shelter. (only a star wars fan would leave them on a shelf! *grin*)
Did you say the "L" word? In public? Disgusting, that!
My hermetically sealed, fireproof safe in the bomb shelter is guarded by attack parrots*... and one bad-ass cat.
I would if you would just give me your address and normal daily schedule for yourself and any other inhabitants of said address! *grin*
*Don't laugh! I have a parrot that used to make my dogs run when he entered a room (either loose or on my arm!). (I concluded they came to some agreement when I wasn't looking, a time or two)
I still see the original versions at Sam's Club and Costco fairly often. Tons of these on eBay, too. I am very happy I own these, as these are the ones I watch. I have recorded the remastered ones off of broadcast TV, but I never really watch them. I never got into the new effects.
Honestly and CGI aside, how can anyone who owns DVD's really watch a syndication-amputated episode?
I'm astounded that a series as important as Star Trek is not currently being produced in its original form for DVD. Morally no one has a right to alter someone else's production. Restore, yes, but not remaster.
We are being led further and further away from the actual Star Trek: While I own DVDs, and they are very convenient, they are only computer-rendered reproductions of what was captured on film 40 years ago. Illusions. Rather like an artists very accurate painting of a film cell. VHS was at least the original film images captured on magnetic tape. To see authentic Star Trek, photographically captured, as it was intended, one needs to look at it off of film reels.
We are being led further and further away from the actual Star Trek: While I own DVDs, and they are very convenient, they are only computer-rendered reproductions of what was captured on film 40 years ago. Illusions. Rather like an artists very accurate painting of a film cell. VHS was at least the original film images captured on magnetic tape. To see authentic Star Trek, photographically captured, as it was intended, one needs to look at it off of film reels.
Where to start?This isn't about morals. It's about business, pure and simple.
By your logic, no one should watch Trek on anything other than crappy televisions of the kind that were around back when TOS was on.
Secondly, DVD is no less authentic than tape. VHS captured the images on tape, DVD does it on disc. Just because DVD is digital doesn't make it less 'real'. To carry your absurd logic to its extreme, watching TOS *in any form whatsoever* is not authentic - only sitting in the studio watching the live action would be.
And VHS is dead. Get over it. You can still get your precious 'original' TOS on DVD, you should fucking well be happy with that. And those DVDs will essentially last forever. Not so with VHS.
Is Star Trek really that important? I'd like to think so, after spending over 40 years watching/thinking/collecting/reading it. And I'd bet that most people who come here would think so, but is it really? Sure, there have been pertinent issues discussed because of it over the years. But the million talk shows and news shows have also spurred important discussion. Sure there is the "hopeful future" aspect, but various religions have given hope for the future to their followers (which probably often outnumber Trekkies?).
I agree on technical grounds... digitizing anything does degrade it. But my senses have admittedly dimmed enough, that I couldn't truly notice/appreciate the degradation. (my only remaining anti-digital stance is against digital volume control... give me analog volume!!!!)
Ironic, since technically speaking, looking at anything *with your own eyeballs* is a form of degradation. What our eyes perceive of a thing is not the same as the "real" thing itself.
That may sound like it makes no practical sense, but it's the same logic as the cadet here was propounding.
It does make sense (if you continue to ignore his point being based on "photographically captured'). He also makes sense. He's is talking technicalities at the 'photographically captured' stage, while you are talking effectively (i.e. the dichotomy between theory and practice). He is technically correct, you are effectively correct. While I agree with the technical, I live in the effective. (There is the perfect world and there is the real world. And of course, there is the Star Trek universe! *grin*)
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