Spoilers Are Tellarites still part of the Federation?

[The Wormhole]

Earlier in the season we learn Earth left the Federation, and just recently we learn Vulcan/Ni'Var has as well. And given the Andorians now seem to be bad guys allied with the Orions, they're likely not part of the Federation anymore either.

So, that's three of the four founding members of the Federation no longer a part of it. That just leaves the Tellarites? Have they left the Federation, or are they still a part of it, the sole remaining founding member? There isn't much to glean based on the Tellarites we've seen this season. We see a few with the Andorian-Orion gang in the premiere, but we also see one serving in the EDF later on.

Thoughts on this matter anyone?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I can see it both ways.

On the one hand, it would be nice to see that one of the founding members was still "keeping the faith" in the Federation, as it were.

On the other hand, it would be interesting to let some other worlds play the role as the "founding" 39(?) worlds of this regrowing Federation as they presumably start getting the band back together. Take the focus off of Earth and Vulcan and let some other worlds take charge like Bajor or Kelpia.

I'd be fine with either development, but would prefer the latter.

 

[mattman8907]

Earth needs to get off its cosmic asset and share their dilithium supply.

 

[GeneralMartok12]

I think it is possible that Tellarites stayed whitin Federatin, especially because their traditional rivals - Andorians - apparently left it.

On the other hand I would like to know is Betazed still part of the Federation.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

We have absolutely no idea what happened to the Tellarites as such.

Although there is a Tellarite serving in the Earth Defense Force (presumably having lived on Earth for most of his life) in "People of Earth". He's part of the EDF boarding party that beams aboard Discovery.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Here's a Complete List of the 39 Starfleet Member Worlds:

1. Aldebaran III
2. Algol
3. Bajor
4. Barzan II
5. Benecia
6. Beta VI
7. Betazed
8. Camus II
9. Cardassia Prime
10. Cor Caroli V
11. Corvan II
12. Delta IV
13. Doctari Alpha
14. Ferenginar
15. Founders' Fourth Homeworld
16. Halee
17. Halka
18. Inferna Prime
19. Iridin
20. Ithen
21. Kaijur XII
22. Kaminar
23. Madena
24. Minos Korva
25. Morska
26. Na'Seth
27. New Xindus
28. O'Ryan's Planet
29. Osnulla
30. Porathia
31. Planet Q
32. Qo'noS
33. Setlik III
34. Sigma Draconis VI
35. Talos IV
36. Tellun (Elas & Troyius)
37. Thalos
38. Valt Minor
39. Zetar

That should answer any questions people have.

 

[Yistaan]

Here's a Complete List of the 39 Starfleet Member Worlds:

1. Aldebaran III
2. Algol
3. Bajor
4. Barzan II
5. Benecia
6. Beta VI
7. Betazed
8. Camus II
9. Cardassia Prime
10. Cor Caroli V
11. Corvan II
12. Delta IV
13. Doctari Alpha
14. Ferenginar
15. Founders' Fourth Homeworld
16. Halee
17. Halka
18. Inferna Prime
19. Iridin
20. Ithen
21. Kaijur XII
22. Kaminar
23. Madena
24. Minos Korva
25. Morska
26. Na'Seth
27. New Xindus
28. O'Ryan's Planet
29. Osnulla
30. Porathia
31. Planet Q
32. Qo'noS
33. Setlik III
34. Sigma Draconis VI
35. Talos IV
36. Tellun (Elas & Troyius)
37. Thalos
38. Valt Minor
39. Zetar

That should answer any questions people have.

Where did you get this list?

Klingons are Federation members? Really? If this list is official, wouldn't that have been highly publicized by now?

 

[fireproof78]

That should answer any questions people have.

Not really, since I'm wondering where the list came from?

Klingons are Federation members? Really?

I mean, they were in TNG briefly

 

[Tim Thomason]

Where did you get this list?

Klingons are Federation members? Really? If this list is official, wouldn't that have been highly publicized by now?

Joke list, sorry. The joke is that we don't know, so I made a list as if I somehow knew.

The list is of course, cribbed carefully from the references in the last few episodes both in dialogue (Na'Seth, Kaminar, Barzan) and on the galactic maps (O'Ryan's Planet, Talos), which don't really specify whether these are members or not. Some of them (Andoria, Orion) aren't, and were purposefully excluded, and the Klingons, Cardassians, and Ferengi seem to have their own zones or territory, which imply non-membership.

A joke isn't good unless it has a level of plausibility to make you question its seriousness.

 

[fireproof78]

 

[Tim Thomason]

I should put this in my signature.

 

[JoseNoodles]

Where did you get this list?

Klingons are Federation members? Really? If this list is official, wouldn't that have been highly publicized by now?

I think Tim is refering to a display in "Die Trying" which listed worlds seen and mentioned from the older shows, but as far as I can tell, it never mentioned these worlds being part of the Federation. Also, how can Talos and Zetar be members if the Talosians were dying out by the time of "The Cage", and the Zetars were extinct for centuries at the time of "The Lights of Zetar".

 

[Yistaan]

I think Tim is refering to a display in "Die Trying" which listed worlds seen and mentioned from the older shows, but as far as I can tell, it never mentioned these worlds being part of the Federation. Also, how can Talos and Zetar be members if the Talosians were dying out by the time of "The Cage", and the Zetars were extinct for centuries at the time of "The Lights of Zetar".

I wouldn't be against an episode of Discovery traveling to Talos IV to pay their respects at the Tomb of Christopher Pike.

Vance: Thanks, you've just given me justification to execute all of you. Lieutenant Willa, execute General Order 7!

Saru: By the Ba'ul, we were only visiting a friend's grave!

 

[Tim Thomason]

I think Tim is refering to a display in "Die Trying" which listed worlds seen and mentioned from the older shows, but as far as I can tell, it never mentioned these worlds being part of the Federation. Also, how can Talos and Zetar be members if the Talosians were dying out by the time of "The Cage", and the Zetars were extinct for centuries at the time of "The Lights of Zetar".

Well, the Talosians would be the Pike and Vina descendants (and, hopefully, some other colonists that moved in during the centuries), and the Zetarians were still around during The Lights of Zetar, they just ascended to a higher form (and then started killing people).

Truthfully, there must be some reason why barren Zetar or forbidden Talos are on Starfleet maps. Colony worlds or new planetary powers is a reasonable assumption, allowing for all sorts of interesting happenings in the 900 year interval.

Now, what's going on with the Founders' First Homeworld? Did Odo recolonize it in addition to having two more Homeworlds?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Vance: Thanks, you've just given me justification to execute all of you. Lieutenant Willa, execute General Order 7!

Willa: Is that the one to kill all the Jedi?

 

[The Wormhole]

Klingons are Federation members? Really?

According to Enterprise's Azati Prime, Klingons become members of the Federation by the 26th century.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Now, what's going on with the Founders' First Homeworld? Did Odo recolonize it in addition to having two more Homeworlds?

Odo purchased two more homeworlds while the intergalactic housing market was good and is renting out the first homeworld and second homeworld. The third homeworld is a little retirement present to himself.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Head Canon: The Founders' First Homeworld is a massive museum honoring the Changelings that fought valiantly in the Dominion War. There's a huge Gamma Pride movement with mottoes like "The Dominion Shall Rise Again" amongst Neo-Dominionites that annoys the rest of the Federation and Starfleet to no end.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Head Canon: The Founders' First Homeworld is a massive museum honoring the Changelings that fought valiantly in the Dominion War. There's a huge Gamma Pride movement with mottoes like "The Dominion Shall Rise Again" amongst Neo-Dominionites that annoys the rest of the Federation and Starfleet to no end.

Now I'm imagining Vorta hillbillies

 

[picardjean-luc]

\

Now I'm imagining Vorta hillbillies