Archer mental illness

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  1. Sisko_is_my_captain

    Sisko_is_my_captain Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Apr 9, 2002
    In the episode In a Mirror Darkly II, Mirror Archer is apparently experiencing visual and auditory hallucinations of Prime Archer. It struck me today that perhaps both Archers were born with schizophrenic genes, but only the Prime version had it treated as a younger person. Then again, the recent DSC ep 3x04 (not a spoiler) suggested that perhaps mirror universe humans have a variant genome predisposing them to be violent lunatics. So maybe it is unique to Mirror Archer after all.
  2. P Tom

    P Tom Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 28, 2004
    I live on Earth !
    Maybe it runs in Archer's family, his father was also mentioned as having suffered from and eventually dying of mental illness as well.
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  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 15, 2000
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Mirror Universe Archer cannot admit he has a mental illness, and will not accept help or medication, otherwise someone will make him their gimp.

    Prime Universe Archer pops a couple pills with breakfast and he's fine.

    Henry Archer never had to "invent" the Warp 5 Engine.

    They Killed a lot of Vulcans and took what they wanted.

    The Terrans had warp 5 Star starships by 2065.
  4. HopefulRomantic

    HopefulRomantic hyperpolypyroferricist Moderator

    Aug 18, 2004
    feeding the cats again
    Clarke's Syndrome was described as a degenerative brain disease, not a mental illness. A couple of the symptoms mentioned, hallucinations and not recognizing family, are consistent with dementia, so I assume it was more like Alzheimer's, but with terrible pain too.

    I think Mirror Archer was pathologically insecure, paranoid, with delusions of godhood. Reminded me of Garth of Izar. But Mirror Just About Everybody was kinda touched in the head. Like there was something in the water over there.
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  5. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    King Daniel Beyond
    It's metaphor for Prime President Admiral Federation Founding Archer casting an impossible shadow over Mirror Archer. A made up voice in his head, rather than a literal hallucination.
  6. FederationHistorian

    FederationHistorian Captain Captain

    Feb 6, 2020
    In all likelihood, it’s this.

    Federation Universe Archer only suffered confusion in regards to contradicting dates when Henry Archer died. And its not really confusion if Archer entered flight school at 12 and then dropped out and did not come back until years later to graduate at 24. So while one could write those inconsistencies off as early signs of Clarke’s disease, its unlikely.

    I am convinced that Mirror Archer's mental issues are unrelated to what happened on the Defiant that affected the crew that caused them to go mad and kill each other. We only saw signs of madness from Mirror Archer. Since the mirror counterparts of T’Pol, Trip, Reed & Phlox likely did not survive long enough after IAMD to see them affected like Archer. And Mirror Mayweather and Mirror Sato showed no symptoms either. Even when Kirk boarded the Defiant in “The Tholian Web”, he did not go crazy.

    Mirror Archer made it all up in his head.
  7. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    “Theorising that one could time travel within his own lifetime, Captain Jonathan Archer stepped into the Quantum Leap accelerator and vanished... He woke to find himself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that were not his own, and driven by an unknown force to change history for the better. His only guide on this journey is Porthos, an observer from his own time, who appears in the form of a beagle that only Archer can see and hear. And so Archer finds himself leaping from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home…”

    “Oh boy…”
  8. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

    Apr 25, 2013
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  9. Mister Spock

    Mister Spock Commander Red Shirt

    Nov 24, 2013
    North London, England
    I did think it would be funny if in that final scene, when Archer is walking up the stairs to address the fledgling Federation, the blue glow of a quantum leap enveloped him. That must exist as a fan edit out there, somewhere.