Some of that very finely made stone sculpture of the 18th and 19th centuries is Coade Stone or early variants of it:
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Ancient Technology that may or may not be Ahead of its Time, or Even True
Heavy stones float?Was Djoser's pyramid built using a volcano style hydrolic lift?
The Djoser Pyramid today
A computer rendering of the Djoser Pyramid.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/hydraulic-lift-egypts-first-pyramid
The landscape surrounding the Djoser Pyramid.
From the online article: https://www.sci.news/archaeology/pyramid-djoser-hydraulic-lift-system-13154.html
"In a new transdisciplinary analysis, Dr. Xavier Landreau from CEA Paleotechnic Institute and colleagues discovered that a hydraulic lift may have been used to build the pyramid.
Based on their mapping of the nearby watersheds, the authors found that one of the unexplained massive Saqqara structures, the Gisr el-Mudir enclosure, has the features of a check dam with the intent to trap sediment and water.
In addition, a series of compartments dug into the ground outside of the pyramid may have served as a water treatment facility, allowing sediment to settle as water passed through each subsequent compartment.
Water may then have been able to flow into the pyramid shafts themselves, where the force of its rise could help carry the building stones.
Further research is still needed to understand how water might have flowed through the shafts, as well as how much water was available on the landscape at that point in Earth’s history.
But the archaeologists suggest that even as other building methods like ramps were probably also used to help build the pyramid, a hydraulic lift system could have been used to support the building process when there was enough water.
“We identified that the Step Pyramid’s internal architecture is consistent with a hydraulic elevation mechanism never reported before,” they said.
“The ancient architects may have raised the stones from the pyramid center in a volcano fashion using the sediment-free water from the Dry Moat’s south section.”
“Ancient Egyptians are famous for their pioneering and mastery of hydraulics through canals for irrigation purposes and barges to transport huge stones.” "
I'm having trouble with this concept. The Djoser Pyramid was not built with the massive 3000 lb. stones that the Pyramid of Giza used, so floating them up on a lift of water is much more conceivable, but where did the water pressure come from to force the water up the central shaft? Of course, more studies need to be done, it hasn't all been worked out. I'm just thinking a hydrolic lift, while maybe not beyond the engineering abilities of the ancient Egyptians (especially Imhotep, the credited architect).
The biggest problem I have is that, a hydrolic system of that complexity and scope, in a mostly flat landscape would have required a way of pouring the water down the shaft, or, even harder, forcing the water up from the bottom. Either way, a large amount of water would have to be lifted to the height of the shaft, either into the shaft directly, or into a nearby reservoir that could then be used to fill the shaft. That seems like a lot of extra work when there was much more basic and simpler technology for carrying the stones up the growing pyramid directly. Occam's Razor
There is an interesting intelligence experiment done with chimpanzees where water was provided in a water bowl and a peanut was set at the bottom of a clear tube. The chimp couldn't get the peanut, but the poor guy easily figured out that he could bring the peanut to him by filling the tube with water. I wouldn't have thought of that.
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The Mayan Calendar. Its largest cycle is the Long Count calendar, measuring 1,872,000 days (5,125.366 years).
https://maya.nmai.si.edu/calendar/calendar-system#:~:text=The Maya sacred calendar is,x 13 equals 260 days.
The Mayan long count cycle ended December 21st in 2012, on winter solstice.
Considering the outcry about the world ending on that day, I can't help but wonder which group was the most primitive, modern or ancient? I have no doubt that the ancient Mayans would have believed the cycle would just begin again, as all the smaller cycles had.
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It’s just a bunch of people with wacky ideas, no harm done, even if they are goofballs.
from Zardoz (1974) directed by John Booman
Indeed, no-one is harmed by these wacky theories, most of which are pretty tame compared to much of the nonsense out there. Perhaps one percent have some validity, perhaps zero.
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Book banning, and in some cases burning is alive and well in 2026 Earth in some countries. Hell some topics are even off limits because they might hurt or harm the very delicate sensibilities of some people and cause them to fall into the sin they are projecting about. What a stupid fucking world.
It's not just books though some people are obsessed with the toilet habits of other humans to the point of making laws about them so there is that level of stupid as well.
Not an excuse but I was in some extremely foul mood that day, and I should not have taken it out on others. I don't even remember why.
This thread is for the explorations of those types of theories. It's not like anything written here is going to break any ancient mysteries wide open and reset our understanding of the World. We're just having fun and maybe learning a little along the way.
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Remarkably civilised discussions and nothing too off the wall is my observation. There is increasing evidence that the story of humankind is not as we were taught in school. That there is opposition to the rewriting of that story is perhaps also as interesting. Why do some authorities feel the need to reject anything that contradicts their narrative? Is it merely about power and fear of losing control?
It's absolutely about losing control and the status quo narrative of things being told from a certain point of view. Any divergence from that challenges millenia of orthodoxy of things
I'm sure whole forums can be dedicated to the answer to that question. Personally, I think most of it boils down to a fundamental fear of inadequacy. The more one converts people to one's way of thinking, the stronger one feels their position as a worthy person is.
Imagine dedicating yourself, your life, to a strongly held position on how the World was created? Thought was dedicated to it, public revelations were made, evidence is meticulously interpreted. A foundation to rest upon, props up a growing sense of self-importance, then... Some misguided blasphemer publishes a discovery that proves it all wrong. It must be the forgery of a charlatan.
Does one stand for that, or does one go to war? It is an extraordinary person who can say, "Oh, they're right, I was mistaken."
-Will
On the contrary, wars have been fought over much less than that. Wouldn't it be a shock to find our human civilization wasn't the first one or that there might have been several before us, or that Earth is much, much older than our current scientific knowledge knows or our methods of working out its age are limited. I mean that's just fanciful thoughts from my imagination but you get my drift.
I wouldn't be, but I doubt any human ones have been technological or extensive. There's just not enough evidence of the pollution we cause. Non-human ones hxve had more time to be erased.
I would be - all the multiple crosschecking doesn't throw up any discrepancies and we'd have to throw out most of established science that works practically. It was much less of a struggle to push the age of the Earth back to 4.5 billion years than one might have expected, but the evidence is overwhelming. Young Earth is even rejected by mainstream religions.
I suspect the Universe might be a tad older as we might have misinterpreted the cause of some of the CMBR because of the Hubble Tension and some JWST results. However, I'm glad I don't have to stake my reputation or career on such musings. It's also too much effort and expense to keep up, never mind try to contribute my under-researched opinions to the mainstream like others feel the urge to do.
I'm not try to question both Hubble constant estimates. By tad, I mean perhaps a few hundred million years. I suspect some, if not all, of the CMBR signal comes from a time after the recombination era as the first supermassive stars in a still densely packed Universe were kicking out copious amounts of elements heavier than helium from their deaths.
At the start of the recombination era, 380 thousand years after the BB, the Universe was about 1.3 billion times denser on average than at present. Whereas 270 million years after the BB, the scale length was 1/16, so the average density was 4096 times higher. It should be possible to model the effect and test its predictions. Someone has probably already done that, I would hope.
I also have my doubts about how microwave emission from our own Galaxy and other galaxies and the termination shock of the Solar Wind might create systematic bias in the measured CMBR. The contribution from the Milky Way is estimated and subtracted, but how well? I'm not sure the latter are even accounted for - not that I know they might make any substantive contribution.
Some smart person made one in Lego
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That's fun.
What do you suppose Legos will look like in 50 years?
-Will
What do you suppose Legos will look like in 50 years?
-Will
A Tesla video, make of this whatever you want
Wow didn't realise these were so simple yet so effective
