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Alternate DSN?

Red Ranger

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People,

I started a similar thread in the TNG forum, so I figured I'd do the same here. As I said there, the genesis of this idea was the concept of quantum realities. We've seen two alternate realities for DSN, of course, the Mirror Universe version and the version where they crash-landed on a planet and had descendants because of a time warp.

So I gave some thought to a switched around DSN universe. Some of the alterations are just somewhat logical changes in the choices of the characters, others are big departures. But I thought we could have some fun with this, trying to keep the changes to the original cast and their chief adversary, Dukat.

Here is my first crack:

Commander Jadzia Dax, Station Commander. In this quantum reality, Curzon didn’t turn down Jadzia’s first try at becoming a host for the Dax symbiont. As a result, she started her new life a year earlier. While she started out in the science track, Curzon urged her to try the command path. Finding that her several lifetimes of experience gave her unique intuition into people and command decisions, she served on several starships. She eventually served as first officer on the Saratoga, one of the few ships to have survivors of the Borg attack at Wolf 359. Like the Sisko we know, she also made first contact with the wormhole inhabitants and is hailed as Bajor’s emissary.

Major Odo, First Officer. In this reality, Odo becomes aware much earlier of the Cardassian atrocities committed against the people of Bajor. Instead of becoming a security chief working with the Cardassians, Odo joins the resistance and openly confronts the occupation. His shape-shifting abilities make him a formidable weapon against the Cardassians, who eventually declare him Public Enemy Number One. After rising to the rank of major in the Bajoran resistance, he reluctantly agrees to be first officer to the Starfleet commander of the newly rechristened Deep Space Nine.

Quark, Chief of Security. Quark is not only an ambitious businessman, he learned advanced security techniques from his cousin, a weapons dealer. He traded that knowledge with the Cardassians to become the station’s security chief and sold a majority interest in his bar to ambitious entrepreneur Julian Bashir. During the occupation, he used his position to help Bajorans escape from Cardassia -- for a modest fee, of course. While somewhat morally ambiguous, he hated the Cardassians enough to secretly undermine their grip on Bajor by destroying evidence in cases implicating Bajoran rebels. He has an uneasy working relationship with Commander Dax -- she knows he’s a “crooked cop,” but she needs him to keep order on the station.

Dr. Kira Nerys, Chief Medical Officer. Kira only spent a short amount of time on Bajor. Before she could join the resistance, her parents had her smuggled off Bajor and sent to live with the refugee settlement on Earth. Her foster parents, with help from the Federation, encouraged her to study medicine. She eventually became a skilled surgeon and, once the Cardassians left Bajor, she volunteered to join the Bajoran Medical Corps, initially to help survivors with severe medical problems, and then was convinced by Commander Dax to become DSN’s Chief Medical Officer, where she’d have access to advanced Federation medical technology to help her succeed in her quest.

Lt. Cmdr. Benjamin Sisko, Chief Operations Officer. Sisko, with input from his commanding officer, Captain Leyton, was considering a command path career. But he decided that to keep his family intact, he would continue his engineering work and take ground assignments instead. He participated in advanced starship design, including work on the Defiant and Prometheus projects. As a result, his wife never died in the Borg attack on Wolf 359. Then, his old friend Dax said she needed the most brilliant engineer she knew to help her overhaul a decrepit Cardassian station, her new command.

Lt. Miles O’Brien, Science Officer. Encouraged by his former superior officer, Captain Maxwell, and the Rutledge’s science officer, O’Brien became an officer and an assistant science officer. He eventually became a full lieutenant and was assigned to Deep Space Nine, which is an ideal research posting for him now that the first known stable wormhole was discovered. Since his career path was different, he never served on the Enterprise or met Keiko Ishikawa and is still a bachelor. However, he and Dr. Kira have started a torrid affair.

Julian Bashir, Entrepreneur, Ruthless Tycoon. Although Julian underwent the same genetic enhancements, he showed a talent more for figures and business than medicine. Nevertheless, he tried to join Starfleet, but a more observant doctor discovered the tell-tale signs of his augmented genetics, and his application to Starfleet was turned down. Bitter over this setback and holding no great love for the Federation, he learnd of the Ferengi, and became one of the first humans to contact them before even the Enterprise’s first contact, and learn their business secrets. He managed to cheat a DaiMon out of his Ferengi marauder ship, and, with a small collection of mercenaries, began to assemble his vast fortune. He decided that he couldn’t conduct business the way he wanted in the Federation, so he took up residence on Terok Nor after plunking down a small fortune in the coffers of the station’s prefect. He then bought Quark’s from its former owner, renamed it Bashir’s, and made it the headquarters of one of the most ambitious business empires in that part of the Alpha Quadrant. Since the Federation took over, he frequently butts heads with Commander Dax, who he vainly tries to woo, as well as with the other members of the senior staff, with the exception of Quark, his silent partner.

Gul Macet, Former Prefect of Bajor and Commander of Terok Nor. Originally, Macet’s cousin was slated to take over as prefect of Bajor, but the ship he was on exploded due to an engine imbalance. Macet was next in line, according to Central Command’s contingency plan, so he reluctantly assumed his new post. Not as sadistic or as megalomaniacal as Dukat, Macet actually pushed reforms of the Cardassian's rule of the Bajorans. Although it resulted in fewer Bajorans dying during the Occupation, the resistance continued unabated. This infuriated Macet, as he had a grand plan to forge an alliance between Bajor and Cardassia, even hoping Bajorans would serve in the Cardassian Union’s military. His dreams dashed, Macet is bitter over the failure of his more benevolent rule and is fixated on making Commander Dax’s life miserable.

Red Ranger
 
Wow...you've got some interesting ideas there! And Macet...that's an interesting take on him. I think you'd really have some opportunities to play with the whole concept of, was he a bad guy, or a not-so-bad guy in a really crappy situation? Really play with the audience's head there.

And having Dax as the Emissary--I kind of hope that would take the character in a less flighty/happy-go-lucky position. Might be interesting to see how the Prophets would handle a joined being like her...
 
Wow...you've got some interesting ideas there! And Macet...that's an interesting take on him. I think you'd really have some opportunities to play with the whole concept of, was he a bad guy, or a not-so-bad guy in a really crappy situation? Really play with the audience's head there.

And having Dax as the Emissary--I kind of hope that would take the character in a less flighty/happy-go-lucky position. Might be interesting to see how the Prophets would handle a joined being like her...

Thanks, Nerys. I have a theory about the Emissary. Just as the Founders sent out 100 young changelings, I think that to increase the odds of the Emissary reaching Bajor and the wormwhole, many of the Prophets went out and made sure they "procreated" many potential Emissaries. I postulated that theory if Will Riker had taken command at DSN -- his mother, who died when he was very young, could have been possessed by a Prophet, like Sisko's was. -- RR
 
Thanks, Nerys. I have a theory about the Emissary. Just as the Founders sent out 100 young changelings, I think that to increase the odds of the Emissary reaching Bajor and the wormwhole, many of the Prophets went out and made sure they "procreated" many potential Emissaries.

If they exist outside of linear time, though, wouldn't they already know which would be the Emissary?
 
Thanks, Nerys. I have a theory about the Emissary. Just as the Founders sent out 100 young changelings, I think that to increase the odds of the Emissary reaching Bajor and the wormwhole, many of the Prophets went out and made sure they "procreated" many potential Emissaries.

If they exist outside of linear time, though, wouldn't they already know which would be the Emissary?

That's a good point. However, it's not just that they're outside time, they're not linear lifeforms. So it's possible they are aware of many different future outcomes and have to plan accordingly when dealing with linear existence, which, as I recall, they didn't quite understand until they met Sisko. -- RR
 
If so, no doubt the wormhole aliens would have continued to view Dax as their Emissary, no matter what humanoid form now housed "him".
 
I like it... some very neat twists, some of which might have worked better than the actual show. Definitely an improved Bashir/Dax dynamic.

Hmm... what it's still missing is Ezri Tigan, who should be on the show from the beginning. She should probably fill the naive young Starfleet officer role (Bashir no longer fits of course) but which department is harder to say. It probably doesn't matter - junior science, ops, or even security officer.

Oh! Garak... need something for him to do.
 
Hi, all. Been awhile since I visited my own thread, so here's my next crack at a twisted version of DSN.

Captain Odo, Station Commander. In this reality, Odo never went to Bajor to be studied by Doctor Mora, and he is the Emissary. Instead, he was discovered by a Federation starship and brought to the Daystrom Institute for further study after the crew realizes they discovered an unknown lifeform. They also uncover evidence Odo is part of a race of shapeshifters, but don’t have enough clues. Odo begins his sentient life nearly two decades earlier, and after traveling around Earth, he decides to join Starfleet, to help find other unusual lifeforms and perhaps track down his people. He takes the same name as we know because, ironically, Starfleet also labels him “unknown sample.” After searching the linguistic databases, he finds the words Odo Ital and takes the name Odo. He eventually rises through the ranks and is Enterprise first officer, so with the support of Captain Picard, he gets the Deep Space Nine assignment.

Lt. Cmdr. Miles O’Brien, First Officer. He’s encouraged by his old commander, Ben Maxwell, to become an officer. Before joining Deep Space Nine, he served on the Enterprise as a duty officer, in command of gamma shift. Like our O’Brien, is married to Keiko.

Jadzia Dax, Chief of Security. Before being joined with Dax, Jadzia was a thrill-seeker and adventurer with a keen sense of justice, who joined the Bajoran resistance in its last years and helped liberate Bajor. When she becomes a joined Trill, her new lives and experience make her a top choice to become chief of security, and she’s also the Bajoran liaison.

Dr. Benjamin Sisko, (Lt. Cmdr.), Chief Medical Officer. Because of an early experience with an old friend of his father, Joe Sisko, this Ben Sisko becomes a doctor and joins Starfleet Medical. Like his counterpart, his wife also died at Wolf 359, so he’s raising his son Jake as a widower. He and Nerys are old friends.

Lt. Kira Nerys, Science Officer. Brought up in the Federation with relatives who escaped Bajor, she joins Starfleet and has a talent for the sciences. Ben Sisko is her oldest friend in Starfleet and helped her get posted to Deep Space Nine. She feels guilty that she didn’t live through the Cardassian occupation and feels this is her way to give back to her world, serving on the station.

Major Rom, Chief Engineer. Left to fend for himself when his brother Quark went into the arms business, becomes chief engineer. He knows the station inside out and secretly was friends with Jadzia. He finds the new Jadzia a bit disturbing.

Dukat, Owner of Dukat’s Place, Possible Double Agent for Cardassia and the Federation. More like Rick from Casablanca than Quark, sole proprietor of Dukat’s Place, he’s a shadowy figure whose business interests mask whether he’s a double agent for the Cardassian Obsidian Order and Starfleet Intelligence. Commander Odo doesn’t trust him but uses Dukat’s ambiguous status to leak information back to the Cardassians. Dax also has had run-ins with Dukat, and also uses him to keep order on the station.

Gul Garak, Former Prefect of Bajor. Just as secretive as the Garak we know, but even more ruthless than the Gul Dukat we know. Gul Garak wants to take back Terek Nor now that the Wormhole has appeared, and he uses all his wiles and political power to make trouble for Commander Odo.

Red Ranger
 
I like it... some very neat twists, some of which might have worked better than the actual show. Definitely an improved Bashir/Dax dynamic.

Hmm... what it's still missing is Ezri Tigan, who should be on the show from the beginning. She should probably fill the naive young Starfleet officer role (Bashir no longer fits of course) but which department is harder to say. It probably doesn't matter - junior science, ops, or even security officer.

Oh! Garak... need something for him to do.

In my first alternate version, I left Garak out, but in my latest version, he plays a significant role, as you see above! -- RR
 
I don't like Garak in the new version. Garak is better where you don't know where his loyalties lie.
 
I don't like Garak in the new version. Garak is better where you don't know where his loyalties lie.

Though it would be pretty frightening to have Dukat right in the middle of the station...we saw how much QUARK managed to get away with in terms of contraband, hacking, and other crimes...
 
Time to revive this thread, with more fractured versions of our familiar characters!

In this reality, the Ferengi are the race that occupied Bajor. These Ferengi are still as acquisitive and greedy, but a bit more militaristic than the Ferengi we know. Their occupation is less brutal, but they still exploited Bajor and its people ruthlessly. They did allow Bajorans to freely travel to other parts of the Alpha Quadrant, and so a mass exodus of Bajorans settled mainly in the Federation. As a result, Kira becomes the first Bajoran to join Starfleet. The Cardassians made a pact with the Federation and Bajor, and some actively fought the Ferengi occupation, like Dukat.

Commander Kira Nerys, Station Commander, Emissary to the Prophets of Bajor. Kira’s family was part of the mass exodus initiated by the Ferengi to get rid of potential troublemakers. This had a big impact on the resistance and made it less violent against Ferengi rule. But Kira, who grows up on an Earth colony, still wants to join Starfleet and perhaps return to a liberated Bajor. When the opportunity finally comes, she makes first contact with the Prophets/Wormhole aliens. Although also somewhat conflicted by her dual role as station commander and emissary, she takes the latter role more seriously.

Major Dukat, First Officer and Bajoran Liaison. In this reality, the Cardassians provided secret assistance to the Bajorans, as they had similar harsh dealings with the Ferengi a century ago. Some civilians even joined the resistance, including a small group who helped the Bajorans drive the Ferengi off the planet. Dukat was one of the most important volunteer members of the resistance, and the Bajorans rewarded him with a top position in the provisional government. While at first butting heads with Nerys, he grows to respect her abilities as a natural leader. Lives on the station with his half-Bajoran daughter, Ziyal, who wants to join Starfleet. Dukat has also "gone native," and even wears a Bajoran earring.

Dr. Miles O’Brien (Lt. Cmdr.), Chief Medical Officer. Had been a civilian doctor, he joined Starfleet later in life. Eventually serves as a doctor on Enterprise, where he meets Keiko. Captain Picard recommends him for promotion to chief medical officer on board Deep Space Nine, as he always wanted to practice “frontier medicine.”

Lieutenant Julian Bashir, Chief Security Officer. In this milieu, Bashir’s brilliance lies in strategic operations, so he quickly rises to the post of chief of security aboard the station. Acerbic and observant, his security measures are the envy of top officers at Starfleet Security. Often butts heads with cunning merchant and smuggler Ben Sisko.

Lieutenant (j.g.) Jadzia Dax, Chief of Operations. An expert in starship operations instead of a science officer, Jadzia had already been on the station a short while, helping the Bajorans repair the station after the Ferengi abandoned it and removed every useful component. Not a big fan of Sisko's, but enjoys bantering with him. Is also an old friend of Kira's.

Major Odo, Science Officer. Bajoran officer and old friend of Dukat’s. Odo took after his mentor, Dr. Mora Pol, and pursued a career in the sciences, becoming Dr. Mora’s top assistant, and eventually, the most celebrated researcher on Bajor. He isn't well-liked by some Bajorans as he often dealt with the Ferengi, who funded his research for its useful and profitable applications. The discovery of the wormhole fascinates both his scientific curiosity and his desire to find his people. An amateur sociologist, he enjoys observing Sisko and his customers.

Ben Sisko, Owner of Sisko’s Haven, Ruthless Entrepreneuer and Silent Partner with Quark. He may be a cheat, but he’s also dangerous, and certainly not a coward. He briefly served in Starfleet but grew bored with starship operations. Admiring the days of the old 23rd century Federation frontier, he made his way to the Ferengi Alliance and Bajor, where he set up a sophisticated smuggling operation, with DaiMon Quark as his business partner, who looked the other way when he broke the rules of the Ferengi Alliance and lined their pockets with latinum. Bearded, he carries a big scar on the left side of his face from an encounter with a surly Orion pirate. He keeps the scar to scare some of his more untrustworthy customers, as they know how he returned the favor to the Orion pirate: gutted him from chest to abdomen with his own blade. His lover, Cassidy Yates, often helps him with his shady ventures. He’s estranged from his son, Jake, as his ex-wife, Jennifer, disapproved of his plans and divorced him shortly after Jake was born. He has a strange love-hate relationship with Commander Kira.

DaiMon Quark, Former Prefect of Bajoran Station One. Here, this Quark fulfills the same role as Gul Dukat. Still stirs up trouble on the station with the help of Ben Sisko, and has his own Ferengi Marauder vessel to harass shipping in the quadrant. His favorite weapon: the Ferengi phaser whip. His life-long pursuit of latinum and conquest interrupted by the Bajoran resistance, he vows to make Commander Kira’s job as difficult as possible. Later engineers the Ferengi’s alliance with the Dominion. Also, his brother Rom is his most trusted advisor and nearly as ruthless in the pursuit of latinum and the Ferengi’s enemies.

Red Ranger
 
The Sisko in that last rendition sounds alot like MU Sisko, actually.

Only without the scar. :p
 
I think this could be very interesting here to have both the commander and XO be non-humans. I think I would've enjoyed such a show!

I'd love to know something about your AU Dukat. What's the story behind Ziyal? Was Tora Naprem a resistance fighter and Dukat's wife in that reality? Maybe she was killed in battle? I could see where the father/daughter relationship would take over for the relationship with Sisko and Jake. And another question...since this Dukat (presumably) has the noble character the canon Dukat lacks, and might actually be good enough for her--any chance of him and AU Kira eventually having a relationship? Ohhh, and another question--what about Cardassian culture? I know you say he's gone native, but I figure there's got to be something in there. And I would think that as Ziyal grows up, she'd want to know about both sides of her heritage...

Oh, and one more question about AU Dukat. About the uniform. Do the Bajoran uniform colors still mean the same thing? If so, think about what Dukat would be wearing! (Or is grey going to be the command-track color in this universe, instead? ;) )

My only question is about making the Ferengi the main foe. What are you going to do to make them come off as really threatening? I only saw the Ferengi on Trek either look stupid, or serve as comic relief. I didn't mind them in the comic relief role, but how would you make them threatening? Would you, say, base them on the robber barons of the turn of the 20th century, with maybe a dash of "military-industrial complex" and other sorts of shady dealings? People would recognize the parallel, of course, but what would be the "scary" element? Just curious!
 
I think this could be very interesting here to have both the commander and XO be non-humans. I think I would've enjoyed such a show!

I'd love to know something about your AU Dukat. What's the story behind Ziyal? Was Tora Naprem a resistance fighter and Dukat's wife in that reality? Maybe she was killed in battle? I could see where the father/daughter relationship would take over for the relationship with Sisko and Jake. And another question...since this Dukat (presumably) has the noble character the canon Dukat lacks, and might actually be good enough for her--any chance of him and AU Kira eventually having a relationship? Ohhh, and another question--what about Cardassian culture? I know you say he's gone native, but I figure there's got to be something in there. And I would think that as Ziyal grows up, she'd want to know about both sides of her heritage...

Oh, and one more question about AU Dukat. About the uniform. Do the Bajoran uniform colors still mean the same thing? If so, think about what Dukat would be wearing! (Or is grey going to be the command-track color in this universe, instead? ;) )

My only question is about making the Ferengi the main foe. What are you going to do to make them come off as really threatening? I only saw the Ferengi on Trek either look stupid, or serve as comic relief. I didn't mind them in the comic relief role, but how would you make them threatening? Would you, say, base them on the robber barons of the turn of the 20th century, with maybe a dash of "military-industrial complex" and other sorts of shady dealings? People would recognize the parallel, of course, but what would be the "scary" element? Just curious!

Nerys Ghemor:

Some interesting observations. In order not to make AU Dukat look ridiculous, I would make grey the command color of his Bajoran uniform. And yes, I was definitely thinking of a Dukat-Ziyal relationship taking the place of the familiar Ben-Jake relationship.

As for the Ferengi, the only time they were remotely threatening was in TNG ep The Outpost, when they used those funky phaser whips. They were originally supposed to be like the 19th century Yankee traders, so adding the robber baron patina would make them more sinister. And I also see them employing mercenaries for additional muscle like the Nausicaans or even the Orions.

As somene else pointed out, my inspiration for the evil, amoral Sisko in this universe was the MU Sisko. He certainly didn't seem like an admirable guy.

Red Ranger
 
Nerys Ghemor:

Some interesting observations. In order not to make AU Dukat look ridiculous, I would make grey the command color of his Bajoran uniform. And yes, I was definitely thinking of a Dukat-Ziyal relationship taking the place of the familiar Ben-Jake relationship.

Good! I was just imagining the reaction even a GOOD Dukat would have to the idea of being made to wear pink. (Perhaps not for the same reason a human male might have issues with it, but still!)

I also think it would've been interesting to see a different take on growing up in two cultures, from the route Spock took (where he seemed to reject his humanity). Canon Ziyal tried to synthesize the two cultures. I think even in this universe where the Cardassians and Bajorans seem to be on good terms, it would be a worthy subject to look into.
 
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