Ahhh!

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

So, here I am getting ready for a storm, sitting on the couch playing Monopoly on my iPad while watching the Voyage Home. I love this film, it's energy and spirit.

I enjoyed Thor earlier this year, but not for all the FX and anything in Asgard, but for Hemsworth's honest portrayal of a fish out of water. Much of that section of the story is funny and clearly inspired by the middle section of the Voyage Home.

The film (Voyage) is great because, while the humor and satire is often sharp, it lacks the overt cynicism that newer films seem to revel in.

Anyway, Monopoly on the iPad and the Voyage Home. Great combo.

 

[malchya]

Brother, do we ever disagree on TVH. I know everybody loves this one, but I have never been able to understand why. It is my least favorite of all the trek films, including Nemesis. I would go so far as to say this is one of my 10 least favorite films of all time. But I'm glad you found enjoyment in it, even if I can't see how....

 

[gottacook]

I would remember TVH much more fondly, and would want to see it more frequently than once every 10 years or so, if it weren't for that awful Leonard Rosenman music. In my opinion it was just WRONG. All of it, particularly that utterly cliched circle-of-fifths sequence in the opening and closing titles. Yeesh.

I am not saying that the music should have been more like that of the second-season comedies such as "I, Mudd" of "A Piece of the Action," nor that it should have been in the modern cutesy-comic mode of the music in (for example) Desperate Housewives. But it should have had a lot more melodic interest than it did. What Rosenman produced had many more characteristics of accompaniment than of melody. There is no melody in the movie that is distinctive enough to approach memorability. Nor was there much of interest in terms of rhythm.

Rosenman had done some half-decent work in the past but should have retired after Marcus Welby, M.D. Is it true that he was a friend or neighbor of Nimoy's and that's how he got the job? Not sure where I came across that...

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I think the music is perfect, capturing the tone of "fun, spirited adventure' perfectly. It's rousing and the main theme is almost nautical in tone. I love the opening titles, especially how it builds. I'll never forget sitting in the theater and watching the opening of this film. Starting with the dedication 9still the best and most sincere dedication I've ever read to ope any film - and I knew the film that would follow would be just as spirited) to the opening music was fantastic. I love how it mellows just a tad around the time the nebula appears (great effect) before building again. Love the music.

 

[gottacook]

As Captain Kirk says about Nilz Baris, "Well, there's no accounting for taste."

 

[Therin of Andor]

I enjoyed Thor earlier this year, but not for all the FX and anything in Asgard, but for Hemsworth's honest portrayal of a fish out of water.

Asgard left me cold, but I only really went to see "Thor" for Hemsworth - and he was excellent.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I enjoyed Thor earlier this year, but not for all the FX and anything in Asgard, but for Hemsworth's honest portrayal of a fish out of water.

Asgard left me cold, but I only really went to see "Thor" for Hemsworth - and he was excellent.

I agree completely. If the film had been made during the 80's they would not have indulged in all the SFX and realized that the real story was him on Earth,.

 

[Newton]

I have a soft spot for The Voyage Home, if for no other reason that it may have been the first Trek movie I ever saw when when I was a kid (I'm not quite sure). It is still quite comforting when I watch it today.

 

[spooky spice]

I really like TVH, it's one of my favourite Trek movies. I 'forced' a non Trekkie friend to watch it once, and she had to admit that it was really good. She started watching TNG after and really enjoyed that too, now her kid is a Trekkie!!

 

[22 Stars]

TVH was perfect for the time of year it was released. With a 'holiday' release date, the music is almost Christmas Carol-y in tone, and matched the lighter fun spirit of the film.

 

[sonak]

great movie. What's also easily overlooked about it is that it was kind of a gamble, sharply different in tone and style from the previous films, a real change of pace. There could have been a fan backlash of "we waited two years for a bubbly comedy?" kind of thing, but instead it was the most popular one yet.

Other Trek films have since tried the lighter, comedy approach,(TFF, INS) but haven't succeeded like this one.

 

[Gojira]

Brother, do we ever disagree on TVH. I know everybody loves this one, but I have never been able to understand why. It is my least favorite of all the trek films, including Nemesis. I would go so far as to say this is one of my 10 least favorite films of all time. But I'm glad you found enjoyment in it, even if I can't see how....

For me I love time travel stories so it wins on that account. The humor seems natural and not over the top. I am a big fan of Superman movies where he comes in and rescues the situation. Voyage Home is like that. Kirk is a fish out of water but like a superhero comes and rescues the wales from certain death and saves the earth in the process. McCoy does the same thing with Chekov in the hospital. Swoops in with his superior medical technology and saves Chekov. We also see Spock continuing the process of learning to embrace his human side.

 

[The Dominion]

I think TVH is a love it or hate it movie depending on perspective. It's easy to see it as a disappointment since it's pretty silly, especially compared to the other TOS movies. (minus TFF) But it is more entertaining than TSFS and actually less ridiculous in a bad way the TFF.

It works because it doesn't take itself too seriously, yet it's not as absurdly pointless as TFF. It's kind of a comedy.

To look at it in context though, you have TSFS which was kind of lackluster, and benefited from TUC building off its arc in a relevant way. But right after TSFS, we got TVH which is less of a follow up than a goofy side story, and then TFF followed right after that. In that context, TVH gets sandwiched between two of the lesser movies, and as a not wholly serious movie itself, or the relevant successor of TSFS's plotline, I think it kind of augments the question of "Why is Jim Kirk going back to 1986 to save whales?"

 

[cooleddie74]

TVH is a great movie...so long as you don't take it too seriously. It was the most comedic Trek story since "The Trouble With Tribbles"(or "Spock's Brain" if you're so inclined ) and was meant to be a breath of relief after all the darkness, violence and tragedy of KHAN and SPOCK. If you watch it as a breather in the series and don't judge it by the standards of the much more serious films that came before or after it then it's one of the greatest Trek movies.

And how can one hate the emotional reveal of the new Enterprise-A at the very end and the crew piloting her out of Spacedock for the very first time? GREAT stuff, baby.

 

[22 Stars]

It also benefits from a wealth of on-location shooting which opens up the film like most Trek can't. From the streets of San Francisco, to the Naval Yards, heck even most scenes on Vulcan are really outdoors on the Paramount lot or Vasquez Rocks.

 

[Therin of Andor]

TVH was perfect for the time of year it was released. With a 'holiday' release date, the music is almost Christmas Carol-y in tone, and matched the lighter fun spirit of the film.

Totally agree. I was lucky enough to see the workprint before premiere night (my club helped organise the official Australian gala premiere and they wanted replica Spock robes for a lookalike to wear), and couldn't believe that it had a Rosenman score. The only other soundtrack of his I had was for Ralph Bakshi's animated "The Lord of the Rings" - one of my favourites!

Until opening night of ST IV, I had Rosenman's "The Lord of the Rings" on endless loop.

 

[Psion]

I'm not a huge fan of this movie, either. I won advanced tickets to see it through a radio call-in contest. The audience was filled with Trekkies, and I had to explain a lot of what was going on in the theater before the movie started to the girl I was dating at the time. I told her, think of this as The Rocky Horror Picture Show, except it's a new movie, and no one knows the lines. She seemed to accept that.

The movie was loud. Really, really loud, and I had a headache by the end that pounded in rhythm with the Probe's signal. Whamp whamp whamp whamp whamp whamp ... !

My favorite scenes took place in the future. Chills went up my spine when the Spacedock lost power and that shuttle started drifting. No power in a vacuum is a death sentence. Those in the present day were played a little too heavily for laughs. There were great lines, but they were too deliberate.

Overall, it was an okay movie at a time when there wasn't enough new Trek. Next Generation had only just been announced a few weeks before and was still almost a year from airing. Its contemporary setting gave it an appeal to a larger audience, and its good humor worked well with the holiday season.

 

[cooleddie74]

Kirk Thatcher's "I Hate You" makes the movie worth it...


ALL by itself.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

That song is awesome! I play it when I'm mad.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Kirk Thatcher's "I Hate You" makes the movie worth it...

http://youtu.be/yX8kKEh8DGU