Accurate TOS Set Plans

[c64man1701]

Since many of you are involved with many fan productions, Im curious to know how you came of the plans to build the sets and whatnot. Thats one thing thats going to be a challenge here in Michigan is building the sets and some props. I've got the accurate plans for the Captains Chair and transporter console, but nothing else. By next summer i'd at least like to have some basic items built. Captains Chair, Transporter console, a few sickbay beds stuff like that. Helm Console.

Any help would be greatly appreciated in this. My 9 year old son and I are about to start building the captain's chair as a summer project.

The eventual goal is to have the Entire Desilu Stage 9 recreated here in michigan.

Thanks again

 

[Count]

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=9568660&posted=1#post9568660

 

[Bixby]

Check out this thread maybe

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=244483

and there seems to be a lot more info in the Fan Art section

 

[PattyW]

Larry Nemechek is selling original, accurate blueprints right now. Since original, there's only one set -

 

[c64man1701]

Larry Nemechek is selling original, accurate blueprints right now. Since original, there's only one set -

Thanks Just dropped him an email. Also did you get my emails I sent you about shipping my top out to you. Havent gotten a response back yet and its packed and ready to go

 

[Robert Comsol]

Couldn't find it on the web, just that he recently sold a blueprint copy of the Defiant set from DS9.

Unless he has the original plan of the TOS Studio set, any blueprint is just a copy of the original.
Have never heard or seen any TOS blueprint other than the (famous) rendering of Matt Jefferies for "Journey to Babel" (containing a few inconsistencies) and "rough" blueprints for the first season sets from "Charlie X" and "Balance of Terror", sold through Roddenberry's Lincoln Enterprises, then.

All of those, unfortunately, without measurements.

(except for the separate blueprints of the briefing room set and the standard cabin)

Bob

 

[GSchnitzer]

Couldn't find it on the web, just that he recently sold a blueprint copy of the Defiant set from DS9.

Unless he has the original plan of the TOS Studio set, any blueprint is just a copy of the original.
Have never heard or seen any TOS blueprint other than the (famous) rendering of Matt Jefferies for "Journey to Babel" (containing a few inconsistencies) and "rough" blueprints for the first season sets from "Charlie X" and "Balance of Terror", sold through Roddenberry's Lincoln Enterprises, then.

All of those, unfortunately, without measurements.

(except for the separate blueprints of the briefing room set and the standard cabin)

Bob

The blueprints that Larry is selling are original plan view and elevation views (with measurements) of the Enterprise ship's corridors sets from Deep Space Nine--where they recreated the ship's corridors sets for the Tribbles" episode. So they are meticulous and accurate--but only for the corridor areas between the "rooms." The "rooms" (transporter, sickbay, briefing room, bridge, captain's cabin, etc.) weren't built for the episode, so the blueprints aren't for those sets; only for the recreation of the old Desilu State 9 corridors as done for Deep Space Nine.

You want accurate corridor sets? These are the blueprints for you.

 

[PattyW]

Unless he has the original plan of the TOS Studio set, any blueprint is just a copy of the original.
Have never heard or seen any TOS blueprint other than the (famous) rendering of Matt Jefferies for "Journey to Babel" (containing a few inconsistencies) and "rough" blueprints for the first season sets from "Charlie X" and "Balance of Terror", sold through Roddenberry's Lincoln

James Cawley has the originals, given to him by Bill Theiss. He did give one sheet to a friend, now dead - so I am not sure what happened to that particular sheet.

 

[Robert Comsol]

You want accurate corridor sets? These are the blueprints for you.

Sorry, but I think I'll pass. IIRC, there were two major issues regarding the TOS set recreation for the DS9 episode:

• The outer main corridor wall lacked a door we saw in "The Trouble With Tribbles" and the footage reused for the episode.
• At the other end of the corridor we had had a new corridor where the original sickbay set would have been.

I can hardly call this his accurate.

Bob

 

[Mudd]

 

[doubleohfive]

Is it me or does fandom just spend FAR too much energy on exacting, precise details such as this? I mean, I get the desire to achieve a level of authenticity, but holy jeez! How close do you really need to get?

 

[Mudd]

Blueprints that give precise, accurate measurements and angles are vastly more useful than those that get the details of color and finishing right, since those things can be determined from other sources. This would be particularly true for the original bridge set.

 

[doubleohfive]

Oh I've no doubt. But is the goal to have a 1000% accurate recreation of the bridge itself, or a useful set/stage for producing a fan film? I admit, construction is not my area of expertise, and while precision and accuracy are important, isn't it just a little possible that this might be taking things too far?

 

[Mudd]

Oh, the blueprints used on "Trials and Tribulations" are more than accurate enough for any purpose whatever. They moved a doorway - meh.

 

[Maurice]

Since the sets were constantly re-arranged and changed there's no definitive corridor design, anyway.

 

[Bixby]

Well, a construction blueprint needs to be accurate in that if you do a circular space like the bridge you need the various pieces to be the correct length and width, so that they will actually fit together correctly and seemlessly. That holds true for a bridge set, condo building and goddamned IKEA bookshelf !!!

But I agree it gets totally ridiculous when fans start a five-page argument about a TOS corridor floorplan that has a doorway where in episode 68.4 there was instead an engineering substation instead (or a public bathroom, god forbid)

 

[feek61]

FWIW the blueprints available at Roddenberry.com (the set with the "Journey to Babel" floor plan) can be scaled to get pretty accurate dimensions; close enough that no one would know any difference. Buy a 3/16" scale available at any office supply (an architect ruler) and the floor plan will yield a bunch of good information as far as the layout measurements go. The 3/16" scale is a common architectural standard and those triangular rulers that you see have that scale on them. Nothing like going to the original information; Just saying.

 

[dennycranium]

James Cawley is an incredible stickler when it comes to details.
Our sets are as accurate as they can be.
Maybe you don't "need" them, but it sure is nice working on them.

 

[Robert Comsol]

^^ Could you please provide a link for evaluation? Thanks!

Oh, the blueprints used on "Trials and Tribulations" are more than accurate enough for any purpose whatever. They moved a doorway - meh.

You see the doorway in the original TOS footage (re-inserted) but when Dax and Sisko walk the corridor reproduction it's gone, and you don't have to be a nitpicker or obsessed with minutiae to notice that. It stands to reason that an accurate reproduction was not the mission goal but merely a lookalike with the artistic liberty to add an extra corridor on the far right.

I'd recommend the "Journey to Babel" floor plan, too (only requires some modifications in the doctor's office)

Since the sets were constantly re-arranged and changed there's no definitive corridor design, anyway.

Sometimes the wall panels were swapped, sometimes the multipurpose room door color was yellow or red, sometimes the wall panel between Kirk's cabin and the briefing room was removed to simulate a corridor (only once in Season 3, "Wink of an Eye"), but the only true changes happened at the corridor back wall of the transporter room with a red turbo lift door to the left (Season 2), once in grey ("The Doomsday Machine"), once in the center of the back wall ("Elaan of Troyius") but most times of Season 3 without any door.

Yet, the essential bulk of the "Journey to Babel" floor plan remained intact, so I can't see how this constitutes "constant re-arrangement".

If the parts that were not re-arranged but stayed the same for two seasons are not properly reproduced that's hardly "accurate" IMHO.

But I agree it gets totally ridiculous when fans start a five-page argument about a TOS corridor floorplan that has a doorway where in episode 68.4 there was instead an engineering substation instead (or a public bathroom, god forbid)

Almost sounds like fans I'd like to interact with, except I appreciated these little variations for my Enterprise deck plan project]here at the BBS because it adds welcome flavor and variation.

Bob

 

[Mytran]

The "Trials And Tribble-ations" set was a fun approximation that served the needs of the episode:


(click for full size)

However, it's hardly an accurate recreation of the classic "Journey To Babel" season 2 setplan. For instance:

1) The corner posts are far too bulbous (probably 12" instead of 9")
2) The short corridor to the Engine Room has that weird corridor curve from Season One
3) Both doors from the Captain's cabin are absent (a fairly main feature throughout TOS' run)

Also, for some reason, ALL the doors are coloured RED. As any fan of TOS knows, there were several different door colours used in the series, which (roughly) corresponded to the different areas of the ship. However, both the recreation in TAT and IAMD used red doors exclusively for their visitations into Trek's past.