About the books...

[UncleRogi]

I was just watching Star Trek V, (I know, I know);
But the scene when McCoy faces his father is awesome...

That said, "Crucable:McCoy-Provenance of Shadows" has to be my choice for "Best Ever"

Runners up (?) would be
Prime Directive
The Art of the Impossible
Federation

Who has other thoughts about THE best ever?

 

[Thrawn]

THE best ever?

For my money, the Destiny trilogy. Though I see completely valid reasons for choosing otherwise, it's definitely my favorite.

If you make me pick just one book, though, I'd go with New Frontier: Once Burned.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

The Trek book sitting at number one for me is "A Stitch in Time". Of all the Star Trek books I have read- indeed, possibly of all the books, full stop- this one had the biggest emotional impact on me. I find it incredibly moving and inspirational.

 

[David R. George III]

..."Provenance of Shadows" has to be my choice for "Best Ever"

Thanks so much for the kind words.

 

[UncleRogi]

..."Provenance of Shadows" has to be my choice for "Best Ever"

Thanks so much for the kind words.

Thank YOU so much for the book...
Can't wait for what comes next...

 

[UncleRogi]

Sorry for double posting, But "A Stitch in Time " is also up there

 

[Thrawn]

Sorry for double posting, But "A Stitch in Time " is also up there

Yes, it is. I recently finished reading it for the second time, and it's definitely knocked something off my top 10.

 

[Bluesteel]

Well I've only read a few books. One was a couple of short stories about SCE and the other was Articles of the Federation. The first one was actually very good but the latter one completely put me off any Star Trek Novel that is set after the series of the respective show. In fact I haven't read a Trek book since then.

 

[OmahaStar]

Well I've only read a few books. One was a couple of short stories about SCE and the other was Articles of the Federation. The first one was actually very good but the latter one completely put me off any Star Trek Novel that is set after the series of the respective show. In fact I haven't read a Trek book since then.

Ouch. While I thought his most recent Trek book (Singular Destiny) was pretty lousy, it was his book about Worf's first diplomatic mission that brought me back into reading Trek Lit. I've generally enjoyed his stuff. Maybe it was just a one-off?

 

[UncleRogi]

Well I've only read a few books. One was a couple of short stories about SCE and the other was Articles of the Federation. The first one was actually very good but the latter one completely put me off any Star Trek Novel that is set after the series of the respective show. In fact I haven't read a Trek book since then.

I pose this Question because I have literally HUNDREDS of Star Trek fiction, from the '70's. The First Star Trek novel was James Blish--"Spock Must Die!"

Yes, I'm old school Trekkie

Crucible:McCoy is MUST read, and has I have stated elsewhere, I dare any Star Trek fan to put that book down!

'Nuff Said!

(Did I just date myself? ah well)

 

[Thrawn]

Well I've only read a few books. One was a couple of short stories about SCE and the other was Articles of the Federation. The first one was actually very good but the latter one completely put me off any Star Trek Novel that is set after the series of the respective show. In fact I haven't read a Trek book since then.

Most people really love that book. What made you hate it so much?

 

[Kevin01801]

Wish I could pick a single favorite. The Kindle has helped me rediscover Trek novels and I'm reading like crazy to get to the Destiny trilogy. Started the Sword of Damocles last night so I'm almost there!

Right now, I'd agree Stitch in Time is right up there as one of the best. But Articles of the Federation, the A Time to... series and all of the predecessors leading up to Destiny have been excellent in my opinion. Guess I'm one of those guys who just really loves all things Trek and can find something I really like in all of it!

And of course now I have to add Crucible to the "must" read list...so much reading to do!

 

[Thrawn]

So much reading to do!

You're telling me, man. I keep running into books that seem interesting, and adding them to the list. This is where I'm at right now (bold = finished; italic = unreleased; -- = not bought yet):

Spoiler: Really long list...

Enterprise
Standalone novels
By The Book, Smith & Rusch
What Price Honor, Stern
Surak’s Soul, Dillard
Daedalus, Stern
Daedalus’s Children, Stern
Rosetta, Stern
Last Full Measure, Mangels & Martin
Relaunch
The Good That Men Do, Mangels & Martin
Kobayashi Maru, Mangels & Martin
--The Romulan War, Martin

The Original Series
Numbered era
--47: The Kobayashi Maru, Ecklar
57: The Rift, David
67: The Great Starship Race, Carey
76: The Captain’s Daughter, David
78: The Rings Of Tautee, Smith & Rusch
85: My Brother’s Keeper: Republic, Friedman
86: My Brother’s Keeper: Constitution, Friedman
87: My Brother’s Keeper: Enterprise, Friedman
Best Destiny, Carey
Reprinted Apocrypha
The Entropy Effect, McIntyre
Strangers From The Sky, Bonanno
Vulcan’s Glory, Fontana
Federation, Reeves-Stevens’s
Standalone novels & series
Burning Dreams, Bonanno
--The Children Of Kings, Stern
--Inception, Perry
Crucible: McCoy: Provenance Of Shadows, George
Crucible: Spock: The Fire & The Rose, George
Crucible: Kirk: The Star To Every Wandering, George
--Gemini, Barr
--Garth Of Izar, Zebrowski
The Case Of The Colonist’s Corpse, Ingersoll & Isabella
Troublesome Minds, Galanter
Ex Machina, Bennett
--Unspoken Truth, Bonanno
Mere Anarchy, various
Lower Decks
Janus Gate: Present Tense, Graf
Janus Gate: Future Imperfect, Graf
Janus Gate: Past Prologue, Graf
Errand Of Vengeance: The Edge Of The Sword, Ryan
Errand Of Vengeance: Killing Blow, Ryan
Errand Of Vengeance: River Of Blood, Ryan
--Errand Of Fury: Seeds Of Rage, Ryan
--Errand Of Fury: Demands Of Honor, Ryan
--Errand Of Fury: Sacrifices Of War, Ryan
Khan
The Eugenics Wars: The Rise And Fall Of Khan Noonien Singh 1, Cox
The Eugenics Wars: The Rise And Fall Of Khan Noonien Singh 2, Cox
--To Reign In Hell, Cox


Rihannsu
--13: The Wounded Sky, Duane
--The Bloodwing Voyages (My Enemy, My Ally; The Romulan Way; Swordhunt; Honor Blade), Duane & Morwood
--50: Doctor’s Orders, Duane (note: published after Romulan Way and also Spock’s World, which is in Sand & Stars)
--The Empty Chair, Duane
New Earth
Wagon Train To The Stars, Carey
Belle Terre, Smith & Carey
Rough Trails, Graf
The Flaming Arrow, Oltion
Thin Air, Smith & Rusch
Challenger, Carey
Vulcan’s Noun
Vulcan’s Forge, Sherman & Schwartz
Vulcan’s Heart, Sherman & Schwartz
--Vulcan’s Soul: Exodus, Sherman & Schwartz
--Vulcan’s Soul: Exiles, Sherman & Schwartz
--Vulcan’s Soul: Epiphany, Sherman & Schwartz

Vanguard
All books in sequence
Harbinger, Mack
Summon The Thunder, Ward & Dilmore
Reap The Whirlwind, Mack
--Open Secrets, Ward & Dilmore
--Precipice, Mack

Challenger
All books in sequence
(New Earth 6: Challenger, Carey)
(Gateways 2: Chainmail, Carey)
(Gateways 7: What Lay Beyond: Challenger story, Carey)

The Lost Era
All books/series stand alone
Excelsior: Forged In Fire, Mangels & Martin
The Sundered, Mangels & Martin
Serpents Among The Ruins, George
The Art Of The Impossible, DeCandido
Well Of Souls, Bick
Deny Thy Father, Mariotte
Catalyst Of Sorrows, Bonanno
The Buried Age, Bennett
Terok Nor: Day Of The Vipers, Swallow
Terok Nor: Night Of The Wolves, Perry & Dennison
Terok Nor: Dawn Of The Eagles, Perry & Dennison

Stargazer
All books in sequence
The Valiant, Friedman
Gauntlet, Friedman
Progenitor, Friedman
Three, Friedman
Oblivion, Friedman
Enigma, Friedman
Maker, Friedman


The Next Generation
Numbered Era
5: Strike Zone, David
7: Masks, Vornholt
10: A Rock And A Hard Place, David
18: Q-In-Law, David
33: Balance Of Power, Hugh
58: Gemworld 1, Vornholt
59: Gemworld 2, Vornholt
61: Diplomatic Implausibility, DeCandido
62: Maximum Warp: Dead Zone, Galanter & Brodeur
63: Maximum Warp: Forever Dark, Galanter & Brodeur
Vendetta, David
Reunion, Friedman
Imzadi, David
Dark Mirror, Duane
Q-Squared, David
The Best And The Brightest, Wright
Triangle: Imzadi II, David
I,Q: David, DeLancie
Genesis Wave
The Genesis Wave One, Vornholt
The Genesis Wave Two, Vornholt
The Genesis Wave Three, Vornholt
Genesis Force, Vornholt
Standalone Novels & Series
Immortal Coil, Lang
A Hard Rain, Smith
The Battle Of Betazed, Douglas & Karney
Do Comets Dream?, Somtow
Engines Of Destiny, DeWeese
A Time To…
A Time To Be Born, Vornholt
A Time To Die, Vornholt
A Time To Sow, Ward & Dilmore
A Time To Harvest, Ward & Dilmore
A Time To Love, Greenberger
A Time To Hate, Greenberger
A Time To Kill, Mack
A Time To Heal, Mack
A Time For War, A Time For Peace, DeCandido
Relaunch
Death In Winter, Friedman
Resistance, Dillard
Q&A, DeCandido
Before Dishonor, David
Greater Than The Sum, Bennett
(Destiny)
Losing The Peace, Leisner
--(Typhon Pact: Path Of Disharmony, Ward)


Deep Space Nine
Numbered era
2: The Siege, David
5: Fallen Heroes, Hugh
23: The 34th Rule, Shimerman & George
--24: Rebels: The Conquered, Hugh
--25: Rebels: The Courageous, Hugh
--26: Rebels: The Liberated, Hugh
Standalone Novels & Series
Hollow Men, McCormack
Millenium: The Fall Of Terok Nor, Reeves-Stevens’s
Millenium: The War Of The Prophets, Reeves-Stevens’s
Millenium: Inferno, Reeves-Stevens’s
The Left Hand Of Darkness 1, Hertzler & Lang
The Left Hand Of Darkness 2, Hertzler & Lang
The Lives Of Dax, Palmieri
A Stitch In Time, Robinson
Relaunch
Avatar 1, Perry
Avatar 2, Perry
(Section 31: Abyss, Weddle & Lang)
(Gateways: Demons Of Air And Darkness, DeCandido)
(Gateways: What Lay Beyond: ‘Horn And Ivory’, DeCandido)
Mission: Gamma: Twilight, George
Mission: Gamma: This Gray Spirit, Jarman
Mission: Gamma: Cathedral, Martin & Mangels
Mission: Gamma: Lesser Evil, Simpson
Rising Son, Perry
Unity, Perry
Worlds Of Deep Space Nine 1, McCormack & Jarman
Worlds Of Deep Space Nine 2, Mangels & Martin & Kym
Worlds Of Deep Space Nine 3, DeCandido & George
Warpath, Mack
Fearful Symmetry, Woods
The Soul Key, Woods
--The Never Ending Sacrifice, McCormack
--(Typhon Pact: The Rough Beasts Of Empire, George)

Voyager
Numbered era
2: The Escape, Smith & Rusch
3: Ragnarok, Archer
15: Echoes, Smith & Rusch & Hoffman
--19: Dark Matters: Cloak And Dagger, Golden ****
--20: Dark Matters: Ghost Dance, Golden ****
--21: Dark Matters: Shadow Of Heaven, Golden ****
Standalone books & series
Mosaic, Taylor
Pathways, Taylor
The Nanotech War, Piziks
String Theory: Cohesion, Lang
String Theory: Fusion, Beyer
String Theory: Evolution, Jarman
Relaunch
Homecoming, Golden
The Farther Shore, Golden
Spirit Walk: Old Wounds, Golden
Spirit Walk: Enemy Of My Enemy, Golden
Full Circle, Beyer
--Unworthy, Beyer
New Frontier
All books/series in sequence
House Of Cards, David
Into The Void, David
The Two-Front War, David
Endgame, David
Martyr, David
Fire On High, David
(Captain’s Table 5: Once Burned, David)
“Double Time”, David
(Double Helix 5: Double Or Nothing, David)
The Quiet Place, David
Dark Allies, David
Excalibur: Requiem, David
Excalibur: Renaissance, David
Excalibur: Restoration, David
(Gateways 6: Cold Wars, David)
(Gateways 7: What Lay Beyond: ‘Death After Life’, David)
Being Human, David
Gods Above, David
Stone & Anvil, David
After The Fall, David
Missing In Action, David
“Turnabout”, David
--Treason, David

SCE
All books in sequence (only print books listed unless it becomes clear some eBooks won’t be reprinted)
Have Tech, Will Travel, Various
Miracle Workers, Various
--Some Assembly Required, Various
--No Surrender, Various
--Foundations, Wardilmore
--Wildfire, Various
--Breakdowns, Various
--Aftermath, Various
--Grand Designs, Various
--Creative Couplings, Various
--Wounds, Various
--Out Of The Cocoon, Various

Gorkon/Klingon Empire
All books in sequence
(TNG 61: Diplomatic Implausibility, DeCandido)
(The Brave And The Bold 2, TNG story, DeCandido)
A Good Day To Die, DeCandido
Honor Bound, DeCandido
Enemy Territory, DeCandido
A Burning House, DeCandido


Titan
All books in sequence
Taking Wing, Martin & Mangels
The Red King, Martin & Mangels
Orion’s Hounds, Bennett
Sword Of Damocles, Thorne
(Destiny)
Over A Torrent Sea, Bennett
--Synthesis, Swallow
--(Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire, Martin)

Aventine
All books in sequence
(Destiny)
(A Singular Destiny, DeCandido)
--(Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game, Mack)

Wider Federation
All books in sequence
Articles Of The Federation, DeCandido
Destiny: Gods Of Night, Mack
Destiny: Mere Mortals, Mack
Destiny: Lost Souls, Mack
A Singular Destiny, DeCandido

Alternate Universes
Mirror Universe: Pre-Official Continuity
--Dark Passions 1, Wright
--Dark Passions 2, Wright
Mirror Universe: Official Continuity
Glass Empires, Sussman & Ward & Dilmore & Mack & Cox
Obsidian Alliances, DeCandido & David & Shaw
--Shards & Shadows, Palmieri & Clark
(The Soul Key, Woods)
--The Sorrows Of Empire, Mack
Myriad Universes
Infinity’s Prism, Bennett & Leisner & Swallow
Echoes & Refractions, Trowbridge & DeCandido & Roberson
--Shattered Light, George & Mollmann & Schuster & Pearson

Shatnerverse
All books in sequence
--Odyssey (The Ashes Of Eden, The Return, Avenger), Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s ****
--Spectre, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Dark Victory, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Preserver, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Captain's Peril, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Captain's Blood, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Captain's Glory, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s
--Academy: Collision Course, Shatner & Reeves-Stevens’s

Abramsverse
All books in sequence
“Countdown”, Johnson & Jones
Star Trek, Foster
--Refugees, Foster
--Seek A Newer World, Bennett
--More Beautiful Than Death, Mack


Crossover Series
Invasion
First Strike, Carey
The Soldiers Of Fear, Smith & Rusch
Time’s Enemy, Graf
The Final Fury, Hugh
Day Of Honor
Ancient Blood, Carey
Armageddon Sky, Graf
Her Klingon Soul, Friedman
Treaty’s Law, Smith & Rusch
The Television Episode, Friedman
Captain’s Table
War Dragons, Graf
Dujonian’s Hoard, Friedman
The Mist, Smith & Rusch
Fire Ship, Carey
Once Burned, David
Where Sea Meets Sky, Oltion
Double Helix
Infection, Betancourt
Vectors, Smith & Rusch
Red Sector, Carey
Quarantine, Vornholt
Double Or Nothing, David
The First Virtue, Friedman & Golden
The Badlands
--Book 1, Wright
--Book 2, Wright
Section 31
Cloak, Perry
Rogue, Mangels & Martin
Abyss, Weddle & Lang
Shadow, Smith & Rusch
Gateways
One Small Step, Wright
Chainmail, Carey
Doors Into Chaos, Greenberger
Demons Of Air And Darkness, DeCandido
No Man’s Land, Golden
Cold Wars, David
What Lay Beyond, all of the above
The Brave And The Bold
Book 1, DeCandido
Book 2, DeCandido
Typhon Pact
--Seize The Fire, Martin
--Zero Sum Game, Mack
--The Rough Beasts Of Empire, George
--Path Of Disharmony, Ward


Signature Reprints
Books in order by title; series distinctions make little sense
--Duty, Honor, Redemption (Star Trek II-Star Trek IV), McIntyre
--The Hand Of Kahless (The Final Reflection, Kahless), Ford & Friedman
[Imzadi Forever (Imzadi, Triangle: Imzadi II)], David (listed in TNG numbered era)
[Pantheon (Reunion, The Valiant)], Friedman (listed in TNG numbered era & Stargazer)
The Q Continuum (Q-Space, Q-Zone, Q-Strike), Cox
--Sand & Stars (Spock’s World, Sarek), Duane & Crispin
Worlds In Collision (Memory Prime, Prime Directive), Reeves-Stevens’s

Anthologies
Series Anthologies
Constellations, Palmieri
The Sky’s The Limit, Palmieri
Prophecy & Change, Palmieri
Distant Shores, Palmieri
No Limits, David
Story Collections
--Enterprise Logs, Greenburg
Amazing Stories, Ordover
Tales From The Dominion War, DeCandido
Tales From The Captain’s Table, DeCandido
--Seven Deadly Sins, Various
Strange New Worlds
Collection I, Smith
Collection II, Smith
Collection III, Smith
Collection IV, Smith
Collection V, Smith
Collection VI, Smith
Collection VII, Smith
Collection 8, Smith
Collection 9, Smith
--Collection 10, Smith

I've finished about a third.

 

[Bluesteel]

Well I've only read a few books. One was a couple of short stories about SCE and the other was Articles of the Federation. The first one was actually very good but the latter one completely put me off any Star Trek Novel that is set after the series of the respective show. In fact I haven't read a Trek book since then.

Most people really love that book. What made you hate it so much?

Well several things.

1: The UFP is basically USA. I'm used to a lot of Americanism (if that is a real word) sneaking into Star Trek in disguise as "Human" or Earth but the book took the piss to be honest. Press conferences just made me want to give up reading the entire book

2: I got a distinct impression in the book that non-Joined Trills found out about th Symbiont secret and decided to become terrorists. I felt that to be very,very stupid.

3: The Politics. I'm young to be honest. But I know politics doesn't work like that. How does a person who votes for what ever the majority want get put in place of power? It's understandable if they were loyal to their political party but voting by majority? Oh and you can't declare war on an another planet just because they refuse to help a planet that your responsible for. That's sounded silly.

I won't mention the surprise plot at the end. Just in case someone hasn't read it. It sounded has if it was a major revelation.


My Impression from the Articles of Federation was that the novels were unimaginative. After I finished them I looked for my next book to read. I stumbled on IKS Gorkon. Looking at the character all of whom are taken from the tv shows. It just confirmed what I was already suspecting.


I don't want to offend anyone. Writing a book is something I'll never be able to do. It's a nightmare for me to write a letter that makes sense let alone a novel. But I just wish there could be a book set after DS9 that involved an all original cast with no mention of anything from the TV. If your going to have a Klingon ship. Fill it with random Klingons. Not characters from the tv shows who just somehow ended up serving on the same ship.

 

[Christopher]

1: The UFP is basically USA.

No, actually the political system depicted in AotF is more an amalgam of the US, the UK, and some fictional elements.

3: The Politics. I'm young to be honest. But I know politics doesn't work like that. How does a person who votes for what ever the majority want get put in place of power? It's understandable if they were loyal to their political party but voting by majority?

A party-based approach is not the only way to organize a political system. In fact, it's one of the worst ways. George Washington argued that the United States should eschew political parties, because in a party-based system, government becomes about serving the interests of the parties rather than the good of the nation. And he was right. If it weren't for partisan bickering in Washington, for instance, we'd have universal health care by now and the health of the American people and the American economy would be in vastly better shape.

My Impression from the Articles of Federation was that the novels were unimaginative. After I finished them I looked for my next book to read. I stumbled on IKS Gorkon. Looking at the character all of whom are taken from the tv shows. It just confirmed what I was already suspecting.

First off, you're contradicting yourself, since AotF has plenty of new characters. Second, this is tie-in fiction, after all; it's supposed to be derived from the onscreen material to some degree. Third, and most importantly: imagination isn't about the origin of your ideas, it's about what you do with them. Sure, the Gorkon/Klingon Empire books have a lot of characters we've seen on the show, but they and their culture are fleshed out in far more detail, and there are plenty of wholly original characters involved as well.

But I just wish there could be a book set after DS9 that involved an all original cast with no mention of anything from the TV.

The SCE/Corps of Engineers series featured only, I think, three characters who'd had bit roles on TV, plus occasional appearances by Scotty; otherwise, the crew was all original. The Titan crew is mostly original aside from Riker, Troi, Tuvok, and Melora Pazlar. (And Ranul Keru, who originated in earlier novels.)

And again, it's the nature of tie-in literature to tie in to the thing it's based on. If you want stories with wholly original characters and concepts, why are you picking up books with the name of a TV franchise on their covers? Why not just read original fiction? What you're doing is like buying a box labelled "Chocolate Marshmallow Ice Cream" and then complaining that it has marshmallow in it. It just stands to reason that if you buy a book labeled Star Trek, it's going to have "mention of [some]thing from the TV."

 

[Thrawn]

Quite frankly, Bluesteel, all of that comprises some complaints I have as well with Keith R. A. DeCandido's work. Most fans like him, but he's never been my favorite. He seems to love the Trek universe so much that he can't help himself, and just throws as much past continuity as he can into the thing, and I think it's way too much sometimes. And the politics in Articles were unimaginative. I thought the spirit and message of the book were enough to overcome that, but I hear where you're coming from completely.

There are a lot of other Trek authors though, and calling the majority of them unimaginative is just silly. For instance, check out the ongoing Titan, Vanguard, and New Frontier series, none of which has more than 4 characters from the TV shows as regulars (Vanguard has none at all, until Carol Marcus shows up in the third book). Really, the creativity in the books of some authors (Christopher L. Bennett, David Mack, and Peter David) is indisputable. Don't let one book turn you off, there are a TON of different styles.

 

[Bluesteel]

No, actually the political system depicted in AotF is more an amalgam of the US, the UK, and some fictional elements.

I certainly recognized what little the British political system inspired the UFP. It basically looks like the political system of the USA expanded to fit different planets and then have the capital move to Paris.

A party-based approach is not the only way to organize a political system. In fact, it's one of the worst ways. George Washington argued that the United States should eschew political parties, because in a party-based system, government becomes about serving the interests of the parties rather than the good of the nation. And he was right. If it weren't for partisan bickering in Washington, for instance, we'd have universal health care by now and the health of the American people and the American economy would be in vastly better shape.

I think the problem you would find is with the American system and not the party based system. We don't have that kind of a problem here in the UK. Our party members are frequently known to rebel and unspoken rules that can't be broken. For one thing. It's possible to mercilessly crush your opponent in a debate and insinuate that they are liers but you can't say they are. Also we don't have shock jocks living on peoples fear.

First off, you're contradicting yourself, since AotF has plenty of new characters. Second, this is tie-in fiction, after all; it's supposed to be derived from the onscreen material to some degree. Third, and most importantly: imagination isn't about the origin of your ideas, it's about what you do with them. Sure, the Gorkon/Klingon Empire books have a lot of characters we've seen on the show, but they and their culture are fleshed out in far more detail, and there are plenty of wholly original characters involved as well.

I don't find what i wrote to be contradicting. There was a Starfleet Admiral who get involved in politics. Oh wait he's Admiral Ross from DS9. There is a ship full of Klingons. Hey look. Their made up of characters from a span of decades. What are the chances they would all have contact with Starfleet and then end up in a ship by themselves?

why are you picking up books with the name of a TV franchise on their covers?

The key word there is Franchise. Star Trek is more then the sum of it's part. If I want to read about TOS i'll find a book by it. If I want to read about DS9 I'll find a book for it. If I want an expanded universe I don't want the 'verse to contract suddenly with the addition of the tv show.

There are a lot of other Trek authors though, and calling the majority of them unimaginative is just silly

I did say I didn't want to offend anyone. I'm going to get a gift of the "A Time To" series soon. I'll go through them before I explore more.

 

[William Leisner]

I'm young to be honest. But I know politics doesn't work like that. How does a person who votes for what ever the majority want get put in place of power? It's understandable if they were loyal to their political party but voting by majority?

Yeah, you're young, all right. Do tell, which nation do you live in where political representatives are all unerringly wise and noble and never pander to the majority?

Oh and you can't declare war on an another planet just because they refuse to help a planet that your responsible for. That's sounded silly.

Exactly how young are you, to think that there are any excuses that cannot be used as a pretext for threatening (if not actually launching) a war?

But I just wish there could be a book set after DS9 that involved an all original cast with no mention of anything from the TV.

So, you want a media tie-in novel that doesn't actually tie in to the media property.

 

[Thrawn]

I did say I didn't want to offend anyone. I'm going to get a gift of the "A Time To" series soon. I'll go through them before I explore more.

Also not a good place to start, if you're looking for expanding the scope and creativity of the universe. In particular, if you didn't like Articles, you're REALLY not going to like the final book and climax of that series, as it's by the same author and deals with many of the same storylines, just before Articles happens.

I'm telling you. Buy the first Vanguard book and the first Titan book, then let's talk. Alternately, Terok Nor: Day Of The Vipers would be good; aside from the occasional completely logical reference to some of the show's older one-off characters, Dukat's the only major person from the TV show that shows up there, and it's an incredible feat of world-building and subtlety.

(And the beginning of New Frontier if you feel like out-of-print hunting; the first four books were collected into a hardcover titled simply Star Trek: New Frontier that I don't think is too hard to find.)

 

[captcalhoun]

I think the problem you would find is with the American system and not the party based system. We don't have that kind of a problem here in the UK. Our party members are frequently known to rebel and unspoken rules that can't be broken. For one thing. It's possible to mercilessly crush your opponent in a debate and insinuate that they are liers but you can't say they are. Also we don't have shock jocks living on peoples fear.

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what are you, TEN?! you CLEARLY haven't paid much attention to politics in the UK if you think that.