Abiogenesis and life on Earth - thoughts and pet theories?

[Candleicious Ghost]

There you go. Life just forms in a matter of weeks. Mystery solved.

-Will

Yeah but isn't it really neat how from that mundane puddle water it just blossomed into a mini ecosystem?

 

[Will The Serious]

Absolutely. I toured the Kennedy Space Center once and there was a guy there who told us that no matter how clean and sanitized they kept the water and holding tanks, bacteria would eventually grow.

Are the hidden crevices of an engineered water tank able to hide or host life that can survive a NASA sanitation procedure, or is it the water that can't be fully sterilized? Maybe life spontaneously forms and we just don't recognize that is what happens, instead of life slipping through the cracks in our sterilizing procedures.

We don't notice the new, spontaneous life because it looks just like the life we see all around us.

-Will

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Absolutely. I toured the Kennedy Space Center once and there was a guy there who told us that no matter how clean and sanitized they kept the water and holding tanks, bacteria would eventually grow.

Are the hidden crevices of an engineered water tank able to hide or host life that can survive a NASA sanitation procedure, or is it the water that can't be fully sterilized? Maybe life spontaneously forms and we just don't recognize that is what happens, instead of life slipping through the cracks in our sterilizing procedures.

We don't notice the new, spontaneous life because it looks just like the life we see all around us.

-Will

If anything it's inspired me to go buy jars and try this at home

 

[Will The Serious]

Yeah. Do you have a microscope? You could try it with various samples of different mineral additives too. Which ones stay life-free longer? Does the ph change over time? Does light make a difference?

-Will

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Yeah. Do you have a microscope? You could try it with various samples of different mineral additives too. Which ones stay life-free longer? Does the ph change over time? Does light make a difference?

-Will

I wish I did, used to a long time ago but not anymore

 

[camdudetenger2018]

i wonder if life 1st came to earth from outer space in a galaxy far far away

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

i wonder if life 1st came to earth from outer space in a galaxy far far away

Why not?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Yeah, panspermia is plausible, but complex eukaryotic life does seem to have developed here on Earth perhaps just over two billion years after prokaryotic life got started. Our equivalent of midichlorians are mitochondria. The latter don't give us Force powers, but they might be responsible for sex and death besides powering our cells.

Mitochondria are tiny structures located inside our cells that carry out the essential task of producing energy for the cell. They are found in all complex living things, and in that sense, they are fundamental for driving complex life on the planet. But there is much more to them than that.

Mitochondria have their own DNA, with their own small collection of genes, separate from those in the cell nucleus. It is thought that they were once bacteria living independent lives. Their enslavement within the larger cell was a turning point in the evolution of life, enabling the development of complex organisms and, closely related, the origin of two sexes. Unlike the DNA in the nucleus, mitochondrial DNA is passed down exclusively (or almost exclusively) via the female line. That's why it has been used by some researchers to trace human ancestry daughter-to-mother, to "Mitochondrial Eve".

Mitochondria give us important information about our evolutionary history. And that's not all. Mitochondrial genes mutate much faster than those in the nucleus because of the free radicals produced in their energy-generating role. This high mutation rate lies behind our ageing and certain congenital diseases. The latest research suggests that mitochondria play a key role in degenerative diseases such as cancer, through their involvement in precipitating cell suicide. Mitochondria, then, are pivotal in power, sex, and suicide.

In this fascinating and thought-provoking book, Nick Lane brings together the latest research findings in this exciting field to reveal how our growing understanding of mitochondria is shedding light on how complex life evolved, why sex arose (why don't we just bud?), and why we age and die. This understanding is of fundamental importance, both in understanding how we and all other complex life came to be, but also in order to be able to control our own illnesses, and delay our degeneration and death.

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[Will The Serious]

Whether life started here on Earth or somewhere else, it started spontaneously somewhere. If not here where it lives, why not and where would be better?

-Will

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Why not?

then that means it would be like star wars lol

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Whether life started here on Earth or somewhere else, it started spontaneously somewhere. If not here where it lives, why not and where would be better?

-Will

i wonder if thats where george lucus got the idea for the star wars universe

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

then that means it would be like star wars lol

Or Earth is just the story after the SW universe has long gone, and we're the terrible descendants of that without any of the cool toys.

The SW movies are just race memories of that time long ago.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

i wonder if thats where george lucus got the idea for the star wars universe

It was an idea often bandied around in the late 60s and 70s because of the pseudoscientific ancient astronaut theories of people such as Erich von Däniken. It also seeped into the original Battlestar Galactica.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

It was an idea often bandied around in the late 60s and 70s because of the pseudoscientific ancient astronaut theories of people such as Erich von Däniken. It also seeped into the original Battlestar Galactica.

oh ok

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Or Earth is just the story after the SW universe has long gone, and we're the terrible descendants of that without any of the cool toys

lol

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Interesting video about life under the sea

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[Will The Serious]

Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today, because I woke up this morning with that tune in my head.

-Will

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Brian Cox

"Maybe we're sufficiently stupid that we wont exist beyond this century" is such a tragic and scary thought, cause we do in fact waste our potential on fighting each other..

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Also I believe in the oscillating universe that yes we live in the universe but it was one of many and made from a big bang, but expansion paused and it contracted making an even bigger bang, and a new universe spawned.