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Abiogenesis and life on Earth - thoughts and pet theories?

Where and how did life on Earth first arise?

  • Warm little pond, membrane first

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  • Warm little pond, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  • Tidal pool, metabolism first

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  • Tidal pool, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  • Alkaline vent, membrane first

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  • Alkaline vent, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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  • Black smoker, heredity (RNA/DNA/clay/?) first

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I watched a YouTube video the other day that posited that life started on Mars and was transferred to Earth by meteorite. Even if we were to investigate this hypothesis directly on Mars, we would probably be unable to falsify it. Too much time has passed. The best we might ever manage is to assign probabilities based on the available evidence. What counts as life in any case? Some RNA world scenarios probably do as the NASA definition of life is "a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution".

Further discussion here and in the papers referenced therein:
 
I watched a YouTube video the other day that posited that life started on Mars and was transferred to Earth by meteorite. Even if we were to investigate this hypothesis directly on Mars, we would probably be unable to falsify it. Too much time has passed. The best we might ever manage is to assign probabilities based on the available evidence. What counts as life in any case? Some RNA world scenarios probably do as the NASA definition of life is "a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution".

Further discussion here and in the papers referenced therein:

When I was a kid I thought Mars many a long time ago might have been the mythical Garden of Eden. We just got exiled to Earth and Mars died
 
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"Ugh, I'm never going to be like spiders. My descendants will all just be normal arthropods who mind their own business and don't do anything weird."

The ancestor of a bunch of eusocial insects
 
early_arthropods.png


"Ugh, I'm never going to be like spiders. My descendants will all just be normal arthropods who mind their own business and don't do anything weird."

The ancestor of a bunch of eusocial insects
While the protostomes were doing that, some of us deuterostomes were evolving ever bigger brains, not inconveniently wrapped around our oesophagus - although our eyesight was hampered by the inefficient layout of the nerves in our retinae - that allowed us to create weapons and technology to exterminate ourselves and anything that fed us, displeased us, or merely for shits and giggles, while imagining that one or more magic sky fairies had created and ordained all this.
 
that allowed us to create weapons and technology to exterminate ourselves and anything that fed us, displeased us, or merely for shits and giggles
That is a survival strategy based on the idea that there isn't room for everyone. If nature doesn't cull us, we are capable of culling ourselves.

May the most ruthless win, because who wants to live in a world of tolerant and accommodating creatures?

-Will
 
That is a survival strategy based on the idea that there isn't room for everyone. If nature doesn't cull us, we are capable of culling ourselves.

May the most ruthless win, because who wants to live in a world of tolerant and accommodating creatures?
Game theory suggests that cooperation is a more successful strategy and it is widely practiced in nature. Perhaps it should be more widely taught if we want to avoid a future similar to that depicted in Fallout?
 
Leadership roles tend to go to the psychologically magalomanic personalities. Perhapse, if Socrates and other Greek philosophers were taught to us better, we would have more sane people who felt a greater sense of responsibility to step into those roles. I, for one, would never consider it sane to want to seek public office. That's prima facie evidence of deep psychosis.

-Will
 
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