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I want to get this weight off of my chest. Please read it, ignore it, whatever you like, but I just need to express these thoughts. For those in the mod and admin business, this is a political/social post, but one where I honestly do not want flaming, so Misc is the best place for it to go. I appreciate your consideration.

As for the topic, it will refer mostly to U.S. citizens, though any person of any nation is more than free to weigh in, because ultimately it involves everyone whether directly or indirectly.

And now, on to the meat and potatoes ("fruit and veg" if you're so inclined) of this post.

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I've been having a down day, today. When I get a few rare moments to myself, sometimes I think about my life, about the world around me, and where I fit into it. Some people like to say one shouldn’t try to fit in, and I agree when it comes to being someone or something you’re not, when you’re trying to gain approval just so you can justify your existence, especially if what you’re trying to be is someone that brings harm to others. You don’t want to be that kind of person. There are more than enough people in the world who take delight in harming others.

There’s the other kind of belonging, though. Human beings are social creatures. Even when we wish to be alone, a part of us likes to know that there are people we can talk to, people who will sympathize or empathize with us, people who will be there for us when we need them.

I’ll get right to the point: I think humanity is losing its touch. I know people who live in the U.S. are definitely losing their touch. We are more divided than ever, adopting a colder, more callous approach to other human beings. We’re erasing the foibles and flaws inherent in every human being. We hide our true faces because we’re terrified people may see us as we truly are, all because we want to conform to what is seen as “normal.”

Does this concept of “normal” come from observations in every day life as we watch other people go about their business? No. It comes from what we see on TV, and on the internet. We accept what corporations tell us is normal, their advertising departments shaping the concept of how people are supposed to behave. We’ve gone from being fully realized human beings, to being consumers who can be easily guided based on what opinions and preferences we’ve been fed by those who spend billions of dollars finding the right triggers in the brain to be manipulated in their favor.

This kind of popular consumer culture has bled into every aspect of our lives, and I know for certain, with great dread, that we’re exporting it around the globe at breakneck speed.


[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]




I will say it, and I will say it because it needs to be said: I am not the currently accepted definition of normal. My brain is flawed, it is imperfect. I make terrible mistakes, I do things that I don’t understand while I’m doing them, and then later when I look back I can’t figure out why I did them, either. Whether or not I regret it depends upon how I see it, but often enough I kick my own ass and say “why did I do that? I don’t believe or think that way any other time.”

In my brain there are weird ideas, dreadful ideas, wonderful ideas, ghastly ideas, silly ideas, and general chaos floating about at any given time. I cannot control many of my thoughts, just as most people can’t control many of their thoughts. That is to say, I am a normal human being, but not a normal citizen of the society in which I live.

In all honesty (as I always do my damnedest to be honest), I am quite terrified of the state of our nation, and what we’re exporting. We’ve never been a perfect nation, nor an ideal one in all frankness. Our history is replete with vile transgressions against other human beings: dissolution of rights, abolition of entire cultures, even sanctioning outright mass murder when we feel like it.

We’re focusing our energies on so many things, because there are so many fires to put out. Worse, it seems as if the resources we need have been locked away in people’s hearts. We’ve become a stingy people. We’re stingy with our love, with our compassion, and our empathy. We demand fair treatment but treat others harshly for wanting the same thing. We demand equality but condemn those whom we feel are less deserving. We tout our freedom, and liberty, but the people who need it the most are sitting behind cell walls with the knowledge that they are either forgotten or reviled, regardless of what they’ve done, knowing, too, that they are to be used as a cudgel by self-serving politicians who seek more power in order to pretend they’re on the side of law and order.

A nation without mercy, yet screaming for leniency. A justice system without compassion, yet pounding their chests in a demand for respect. A people without empathy for their fellow human beings, but confiscating the title of “city on a hill,” and “leader of the free world” as their own.

This nation cannot maintain, not for long this way. We’re heading for a cliff, and people will be too engrossed in their greeds, their bigotry, and their cell phones, to notice.

All of these traits are human, but we used to look upon them as undesirable, something we wish to ferret out of our collective consciousness. While I believe we will always possess some form of these negative traits, I would hope we would seek to deal with them fairly, but never did I think we would take them and capitalize on them, use them to line our pockets, to justify our causes, and to enslave entire populations as a so-called necessity.

We’re like sunshine patriots. We pay the standard lip service to God, country, flag, apple pie, grandma, whatever jingoistic phrase gets the under-educated to whoop and holler in glee, and then we just do whatever the hell we want, hiding behind all of these things to justify our actions. Our police are corrupt, our judicial system in the pocket of those who can build power, our President is a selfish, greedy man who sees only his immediate wants, and encompasses exactly what the United States has become in all of its holier-than-thou sanctimony.

We admonish the rest of the world, while we engage in greed, gluttony, vanity, and pride. We engage in violence around the world and call ourselves a peaceful nation. We call ourselves the shining beacon of freedom, but we hire an indentured caste to supply us with an endless stream of worthless merchandise so we can pay an exorbitant markup in order to set them on our shelves, and forget about their existence after the newness has worn off.

We do all of these things, and then we arrest people for theft. We put them in prison for violence. We watch them if they see or think things differently than what we feel they should see and think. Sometimes we arrest them pre-emptively, trumping up charges to paint them in the worst light possible.



[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]



We have lost our ability to see nuance. As a people, we’ve stopped caring about people who don’t agree with us 100% in our goals, whatever they may be. People have stopped *being* people. They’ve become trends, target audiences, core demographics, and systems. People have been commodified, and de-personalized. We’re filtering out the humanity from human beings, and turning them into resources to be managed.

We are all guilty, because we’ve all partaken in this system.

Ideas are black and white, outrage is the “in” thing, greed is good, and life is cheap. As a people, we had potential, we had promise, and we have squandered it. I believe that the United States is heading into the darkest time it has experienced since the days of the Civil War. What I find most depressing is that I’m not sure most people will notice it. The drive to think critically has been so expunged from them thanks to our inept education programs (thanks in part due to lower and lower standards in order to allow for more money to flow upward to government administrators and their special interests), that I feel most people believe their lifestyles can be maintained in famine, in destitution, and in confinement, when their freedoms are curtailed more and more in the name of liberty and security.

I am waiting for Eos.

Eos, in Greek mythology, was a Titan, and the sister of Selene, Goddess of the Moon. Eos represented the coming of the Dawn. In that sense, she also represented the renewal of the day, the advent of Helios (God of the Sun), and the return of light to a waking world.

Do I mean this passage literally or figuratively? I’ll let you decide on your own. Not everything requires a pat answer that allows for nothing to question.

I am just one person, and I don’t have the answers everyone wants or needs. I am an imperfect, flawed human being who is doing my best to help as many people as I can, and I don’t just mean the kind of help where I say nice things and move on. I mean help like feeding hungry men, women, children, and working to lighten their burdens. Take action. Don’t just raise awareness. I raise awareness wherever I can, but just raising awareness isn’t enough. Helping others requires actively doing something about their situation.

I know that it can be overwhelming. I am overwhelmed daily. Taking small steps, though, can help mitigate that feeling, even if just a little bit. Be kind to people. If someone insults you, don’t insult them back. There are people who lash out at others because of how they’re hurting inside, and you happen to be the nearest target.

I’m not talking feel-good tolerance bullshit, either. I mean look at that person like they’re a human being, because they are, and get inside of their skin for a moment. Employ empathy for goddess’ sake. No one is asking you to be perfect or above having flaws. Hell, I want us to admit to our flaws. I want the people in this country to become the human beings they are again. Drop all of the euphemistic bullshit we use to sugarcoat and obscure the truth in our society. Get down on your hands and knees, and scoop up some dirt. Look at it. Connect with it.

We use dirt, soil if you want to be fancy, to grow and build things. It is used as a necessary ingredient in the production of food and housing. We spread it, till it, fertilize it, and reap the harvests from the manipulation of that soil. In that way, people and the soil are the same. The Powers That Be plant their seeds of preferred societal structure into the minds and hearts of people. They fertilize it with propaganda and advertising. Then reap the profits from manipulating those people.

Realize that you and that pile of dirt are the same thing on every single level except for one thing: Sentience. You have the capacity for reason, the ability to engage in kindness and compassion. I don’t care if you’ve done awful things in your past. You don’t have to be that person, you don’t have to feel that you’ll only be that person. You are on the same level as every other human being on this planet. The President is not better than you. The judge, the police officer, the CEO, they are not better than you. They have placed themselves above you, but when they die, they will return to the soil from which they came, just as you will.


[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]


While you’re alive, though, you can be so much more than something to be exploited. You have compassion, and empathy. You have a brain that can imagine and think critically. You are a whole person, capable of moving and shaping your part of the world in your own way. You are separate from the soil for only a brief time. What you do matters. What you say matters. Do good, speak out for good. Don’t let arbitrary social orders tell you what you can and cannot do if you believe it will benefit others, others who absolutely need you to help them because they are being exploited by those same social arbiters who demand you do as they say. Fuck them and their desire to step above their humanity and levy decrees upon you in the name of the systematic hypocrisy that pays their salaries.

Be a human being because you ARE a human being. A REAL human being, who has flaws, makes mistakes, and just fucks up sometimes, even often! You can be forgiven, loved, and you deserve to be here. Make the most of it.

Don’t settle for being a bag of dirt.
 
Amaris, for what it's worth I read every word. You took the time to put your soul out there and it was heard.

Those deep breaths is what it is all about. It is when we wake up and connect to our reality in a world that has given us a 'role', a job, a brave face, a coping mechanism. I remind myself how fortunate I am and how there IS beauty and there ARE kindred spirits in the world. We are alive at the same time, (example, you know this strange woman called 'Refuge' Tracey ;)). In man's history we are probably quite lucky! We have food, education, we communicate. We have social media. We have each other and if you scratch beneath the surface there is kindness and compassion.

I agree with you. No one should settle for being a bag of dirt or wanting others to be that. And you should never feel you have to justify your existence. You don't always know the people you have touched or saved. It only takes one and needs to start with yourself first. Yes, deep breaths. Savour the good and the grace and have faith you are worthy and are not alone. Make whatever mark you can in the world and leave the rest for others to do the same.
 
Sadly, what you describe is not restricted to the US. It appears to be a global phenomenon.
However, you are not the only one who noticed that development and who wants to fight it. Even though we might be a minority atm we can still make a huge difference by setting an example to others. And knowing that we are not alone gives us a bit more strength.
If a wrinkled exiled Indian guy in underpants could do it, 70 years ago, a number of fully clad and fully determined, energetic and propably slightly crazy* people from all the world ganging up should be able to trigger not a revolution but at least an evolution.

*mandatory for posting on a Star Trek board ;)
 
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I want to get this weight off of my chest. Please read it, ignore it, whatever you like, but I just need to express these thoughts. For those in the mod and admin business, this is a political/social post, but one where I honestly do not want flaming, so Misc is the best place for it to go. I appreciate your consideration.

As for the topic, it will refer mostly to U.S. citizens, though any person of any nation is more than free to weigh in, because ultimately it involves everyone whether directly or indirectly.

And now, on to the meat and potatoes ("fruit and veg" if you're so inclined) of this post.

----


I've been having a down day, today. When I get a few rare moments to myself, sometimes I think about my life, about the world around me, and where I fit into it. Some people like to say one shouldn’t try to fit in, and I agree when it comes to being someone or something you’re not, when you’re trying to gain approval just so you can justify your existence, especially if what you’re trying to be is someone that brings harm to others. You don’t want to be that kind of person. There are more than enough people in the world who take delight in harming others.

There’s the other kind of belonging, though. Human beings are social creatures. Even when we wish to be alone, a part of us likes to know that there are people we can talk to, people who will sympathize or empathize with us, people who will be there for us when we need them.

I’ll get right to the point: I think humanity is losing its touch. I know people who live in the U.S. are definitely losing their touch. We are more divided than ever, adopting a colder, more callous approach to other human beings. We’re erasing the foibles and flaws inherent in every human being. We hide our true faces because we’re terrified people may see us as we truly are, all because we want to conform to what is seen as “normal.”

Does this concept of “normal” come from observations in every day life as we watch other people go about their business? No. It comes from what we see on TV, and on the internet. We accept what corporations tell us is normal, their advertising departments shaping the concept of how people are supposed to behave. We’ve gone from being fully realized human beings, to being consumers who can be easily guided based on what opinions and preferences we’ve been fed by those who spend billions of dollars finding the right triggers in the brain to be manipulated in their favor.

This kind of popular consumer culture has bled into every aspect of our lives, and I know for certain, with great dread, that we’re exporting it around the globe at breakneck speed.


[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]




I will say it, and I will say it because it needs to be said: I am not the currently accepted definition of normal. My brain is flawed, it is imperfect. I make terrible mistakes, I do things that I don’t understand while I’m doing them, and then later when I look back I can’t figure out why I did them, either. Whether or not I regret it depends upon how I see it, but often enough I kick my own ass and say “why did I do that? I don’t believe or think that way any other time.”

In my brain there are weird ideas, dreadful ideas, wonderful ideas, ghastly ideas, silly ideas, and general chaos floating about at any given time. I cannot control many of my thoughts, just as most people can’t control many of their thoughts. That is to say, I am a normal human being, but not a normal citizen of the society in which I live.

In all honesty (as I always do my damnedest to be honest), I am quite terrified of the state of our nation, and what we’re exporting. We’ve never been a perfect nation, nor an ideal one in all frankness. Our history is replete with vile transgressions against other human beings: dissolution of rights, abolition of entire cultures, even sanctioning outright mass murder when we feel like it.

We’re focusing our energies on so many things, because there are so many fires to put out. Worse, it seems as if the resources we need have been locked away in people’s hearts. We’ve become a stingy people. We’re stingy with our love, with our compassion, and our empathy. We demand fair treatment but treat others harshly for wanting the same thing. We demand equality but condemn those whom we feel are less deserving. We tout our freedom, and liberty, but the people who need it the most are sitting behind cell walls with the knowledge that they are either forgotten or reviled, regardless of what they’ve done, knowing, too, that they are to be used as a cudgel by self-serving politicians who seek more power in order to pretend they’re on the side of law and order.

A nation without mercy, yet screaming for leniency. A justice system without compassion, yet pounding their chests in a demand for respect. A people without empathy for their fellow human beings, but confiscating the title of “city on a hill,” and “leader of the free world” as their own.

This nation cannot maintain, not for long this way. We’re heading for a cliff, and people will be too engrossed in their greeds, their bigotry, and their cell phones, to notice.

All of these traits are human, but we used to look upon them as undesirable, something we wish to ferret out of our collective consciousness. While I believe we will always possess some form of these negative traits, I would hope we would seek to deal with them fairly, but never did I think we would take them and capitalize on them, use them to line our pockets, to justify our causes, and to enslave entire populations as a so-called necessity.

We’re like sunshine patriots. We pay the standard lip service to God, country, flag, apple pie, grandma, whatever jingoistic phrase gets the under-educated to whoop and holler in glee, and then we just do whatever the hell we want, hiding behind all of these things to justify our actions. Our police are corrupt, our judicial system in the pocket of those who can build power, our President is a selfish, greedy man who sees only his immediate wants, and encompasses exactly what the United States has become in all of its holier-than-thou sanctimony.

We admonish the rest of the world, while we engage in greed, gluttony, vanity, and pride. We engage in violence around the world and call ourselves a peaceful nation. We call ourselves the shining beacon of freedom, but we hire an indentured caste to supply us with an endless stream of worthless merchandise so we can pay an exorbitant markup in order to set them on our shelves, and forget about their existence after the newness has worn off.

We do all of these things, and then we arrest people for theft. We put them in prison for violence. We watch them if they see or think things differently than what we feel they should see and think. Sometimes we arrest them pre-emptively, trumping up charges to paint them in the worst light possible.



[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]



We have lost our ability to see nuance. As a people, we’ve stopped caring about people who don’t agree with us 100% in our goals, whatever they may be. People have stopped *being* people. They’ve become trends, target audiences, core demographics, and systems. People have been commodified, and de-personalized. We’re filtering out the humanity from human beings, and turning them into resources to be managed.

We are all guilty, because we’ve all partaken in this system.

Ideas are black and white, outrage is the “in” thing, greed is good, and life is cheap. As a people, we had potential, we had promise, and we have squandered it. I believe that the United States is heading into the darkest time it has experienced since the days of the Civil War. What I find most depressing is that I’m not sure most people will notice it. The drive to think critically has been so expunged from them thanks to our inept education programs (thanks in part due to lower and lower standards in order to allow for more money to flow upward to government administrators and their special interests), that I feel most people believe their lifestyles can be maintained in famine, in destitution, and in confinement, when their freedoms are curtailed more and more in the name of liberty and security.

I am waiting for Eos.

Eos, in Greek mythology, was a Titan, and the sister of Selene, Goddess of the Moon. Eos represented the coming of the Dawn. In that sense, she also represented the renewal of the day, the advent of Helios (God of the Sun), and the return of light to a waking world.

Do I mean this passage literally or figuratively? I’ll let you decide on your own. Not everything requires a pat answer that allows for nothing to question.

I am just one person, and I don’t have the answers everyone wants or needs. I am an imperfect, flawed human being who is doing my best to help as many people as I can, and I don’t just mean the kind of help where I say nice things and move on. I mean help like feeding hungry men, women, children, and working to lighten their burdens. Take action. Don’t just raise awareness. I raise awareness wherever I can, but just raising awareness isn’t enough. Helping others requires actively doing something about their situation.

I know that it can be overwhelming. I am overwhelmed daily. Taking small steps, though, can help mitigate that feeling, even if just a little bit. Be kind to people. If someone insults you, don’t insult them back. There are people who lash out at others because of how they’re hurting inside, and you happen to be the nearest target.

I’m not talking feel-good tolerance bullshit, either. I mean look at that person like they’re a human being, because they are, and get inside of their skin for a moment. Employ empathy for goddess’ sake. No one is asking you to be perfect or above having flaws. Hell, I want us to admit to our flaws. I want the people in this country to become the human beings they are again. Drop all of the euphemistic bullshit we use to sugarcoat and obscure the truth in our society. Get down on your hands and knees, and scoop up some dirt. Look at it. Connect with it.

We use dirt, soil if you want to be fancy, to grow and build things. It is used as a necessary ingredient in the production of food and housing. We spread it, till it, fertilize it, and reap the harvests from the manipulation of that soil. In that way, people and the soil are the same. The Powers That Be plant their seeds of preferred societal structure into the minds and hearts of people. They fertilize it with propaganda and advertising. Then reap the profits from manipulating those people.

Realize that you and that pile of dirt are the same thing on every single level except for one thing: Sentience. You have the capacity for reason, the ability to engage in kindness and compassion. I don’t care if you’ve done awful things in your past. You don’t have to be that person, you don’t have to feel that you’ll only be that person. You are on the same level as every other human being on this planet. The President is not better than you. The judge, the police officer, the CEO, they are not better than you. They have placed themselves above you, but when they die, they will return to the soil from which they came, just as you will.


[ Take a break here. Breathe. Read on when you are ready.]


While you’re alive, though, you can be so much more than something to be exploited. You have compassion, and empathy. You have a brain that can imagine and think critically. You are a whole person, capable of moving and shaping your part of the world in your own way. You are separate from the soil for only a brief time. What you do matters. What you say matters. Do good, speak out for good. Don’t let arbitrary social orders tell you what you can and cannot do if you believe it will benefit others, others who absolutely need you to help them because they are being exploited by those same social arbiters who demand you do as they say. Fuck them and their desire to step above their humanity and levy decrees upon you in the name of the systematic hypocrisy that pays their salaries.

Be a human being because you ARE a human being. A REAL human being, who has flaws, makes mistakes, and just fucks up sometimes, even often! You can be forgiven, loved, and you deserve to be here. Make the most of it.

Don’t settle for being a bag of dirt.

Dude for some reason you only came on my radar recently.

It's like reading my own thoughts spelt out for me.
 
I had just assumed he was someone who had been about under this name and maybe not posted for a long while, or somehow I hadn't noticed
 
Amaris, for what it's worth I read every word. You took the time to put your soul out there and it was heard.

Those deep breaths is what it is all about. It is when we wake up and connect to our reality in a world that has given us a 'role', a job, a brave face, a coping mechanism. I remind myself how fortunate I am and how there IS beauty and there ARE kindred spirits in the world. We are alive at the same time, (example, you know this strange woman called 'Refuge' Tracey ;)). In man's history we are probably quite lucky! We have food, education, we communicate. We have social media. We have each other and if you scratch beneath the surface there is kindness and compassion.

I agree with you. No one should settle for being a bag of dirt or wanting others to be that. And you should never feel you have to justify your existence. You don't always know the people you have touched or saved. It only takes one and needs to start with yourself first. Yes, deep breaths. Savour the good and the grace and have faith you are worthy and are not alone. Make whatever mark you can in the world and leave the rest for others to do the same.
Thank you. :)

It's true that in some ways we have quite a few things in our favor. In other ways, however, we are regressing, and I wish to stop that from happening. That is my ultimate goal, to end suffering caused by humanity's own hands.

Sadly, what you describe is not restricted to the US. It appears to be a global phenomenon.
However, you are not the only one who noticed that development and who wants to fight it. Even though we might be a minority atm we can still make a huge difference by setting an example to others. And knowing that we are not alone gives us a bit more strength.
If a wrinkled exiled Indian guy in underpants could do it, 70 years ago, a number of fully clad and fully determined, energetic and propably slightly crazy* people from all the world ganging up should be able to trigger not a revolution but at least an evolution.

*mandatory for posting on a Star Trek board ;)
That is true, I'm not alone. I have you, and there are many more people out there who feel the same way. I'd like to find a way to start coordinating people towards that same goal.

Dude for some reason you only came on my radar recently.

It's like reading my own thoughts spelt out for me.
I've been around for quite a while. You might know me as J. Allen. Then again, this may be the first time you've really noticed me. :)

Previous names (in order of most recent to earliest):
Amaris (current)
Coloratura
Avidan
J. Allen

The others were holiday name changes. There may be one or two brief ones in there that I didn't stick with and have forgotten. For the most part, I've been J. Allen for most of my time here.

Previous religious POV (from most recent to earliest):
Pagan (current)
Atheist
Christian Mystic
Christian Fundamentalist


Previous political POV (from most recent to earliest):
Anarcho-Communist (current)
Liberal Socialist
Liberal
Conservative Moderate
Staunch Conservative

After 15+ years here, doesn't sound too bad to me, but hey, one's mileage may vary.

That' not hard to explain, while you were away, J had another one of his periodic changes of name and world view.
Ever forward, and in a specific direction believe it or not. The world view doesn't change wholesale so much as becomes clearer. The root of who I am does not change, but discovering what that entails is always the challenge. Some people don't go farther than what they see, and they're content. Others take a few steps, are satisfied, and stop there. There are also those who never find what they're looking for, and get lost amidst the noise. Still, there are some who know that there's more than what they understand, and they seek it out.

The John from 2002 might wonder what turns the John from 2018 had made to get to where he is, but he would immediately recognize the same message underneath it all.
 
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Ever forward, and in a specific direction believe it or not. The world view doesn't change wholesale so much as becomes clearer. The root of who I am does not change, but discovering what that entails is always the challenge. Some people don't go farther than what they see, and they're content. Others take a few steps, are satisfied, and stop there. There are also those who never find what they're looking for, and get lost amidst the noise. Still, there are some who know that there's more than what they understand, and they seek it out.

For someone who's life is stuck in one hell of a rut, which is why this thread is here and not "down below," because you are unwilling to address the issues you have, your cod philosophy rings false and is just wishful thinking I'm afraid.

The John from 2002 might wonder what turns the John from 2018 had made to get to where he is, but he would immediately recognize the same message underneath it all.

But have you made it? Really? I can hand on heart say that, although I haven't "made it," I'm happy with my life and content with my lot, I am also in a very good place. Can you?
 
Thank you. :)

It's true that in some ways we have quite a few things in our favor. In other ways, however, we are regressing, and I wish to stop that from happening. That is my ultimate goal, to end suffering caused by humanity's own hands.


That is true, I'm not alone. I have you, and there are many more people out there who feel the same way. I'd like to find a way to start coordinating people towards that same goal.


I've been around for quite a while. You might know me as J. Allen. Then again, this may be the first time you've really noticed me. :)

Previous names (in order of most recent to earliest):
Amaris (current)
Coloratura
Avidan
J. Allen

The others were holiday name changes. There may be one or two brief ones in there that I didn't stick with and have forgotten. For the most part, I've been J. Allen for most of my time here.

Previous religious POV (from most recent to earliest):
Pagan (current)
Atheist
Christian Mystic
Christian Fundamentalist


Previous political POV (from most recent to earliest):
Anarcho-Communist (current)
Liberal Socialist
Liberal
Conservative Moderate
Staunch Conservative

After 15+ years here, doesn't sound too bad to me, but hey, one's mileage may vary.


Ever forward, and in a specific direction believe it or not. The world view doesn't change wholesale so much as becomes clearer. The root of who I am does not change, but discovering what that entails is always the challenge. Some people don't go farther than what they see, and they're content. Others take a few steps, are satisfied, and stop there. There are also those who never find what they're looking for, and get lost amidst the noise. Still, there are some who know that there's more than what they understand, and they seek it out.

The John from 2002 might wonder what turns the John from 2018 had made to get to where he is, but he would immediately recognize the same message underneath it all.


OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH Coluratura, it's you!
 
For someone who's life is stuck in one hell of a rut, which is why this thread is here and not "down below," because you are unwilling to address the issues you have, your cod philosophy rings false and is just wishful thinking I'm afraid.
It's here because I don't want flaming in my thread, and because if I post it down below, some of you would feel awfully free with using information entrusted to you from years ago to hit me over the head even against my statements for you not to do so, and I do not want that to happen again. I do not trust you with any of that anymore.

But have you made it? Really? I can hand on heart say that, although I haven't "made it," I'm happy with my life and content with my lot, I am also in a very good place. Can you?
Intellectually and philosophically speaking? I am light years ahead of where John from 2002 was. He was more than happy to sit with his beliefs and accept things as they were, because he was comfortable there. He knew there were things in the world that were negative, but was too timid to do anything about it. I am an introvert by heart. I get nervous when I must have a face to face conversation with someone. If I have to talk to someone on the phone, my palms sweat, and I get an anxiety attack. It has been that way most of my life. The only area where that didn't factor was in school. I had no problems answering questions from the teacher, much to the relief, and occasional chagrin, of my fellow students.

Even if I'm in the same place physically (and this is ALL I'm saying on that particular subject so do not pursue it), that I can see more around me, that I can see farther, clearer, that I can understand the concept and context of what I'm seeing, I wouldn't trade that for anything. So no, I'm not content with my lot in life, but then, if I were content, I would feel that something was wrong. I have too much empathy to ever be fully content and capable of ignoring or accepting the terrible things that go on around me. It's my nature.

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH Coluratura, it's you!
It's me! :)
 
It's here because I don't want flaming in my thread, and because if I post it down below, some of you would feel awfully free with using information entrusted to you from years ago to hit me over the head even against my statements for you not to do so, and I do not want that to happen again. I do not trust you with any of that anymore.

It's a hard life isn't it, individuals who like you, trying to help you and grow in a healthy way and not use certain circumstances as a crutch to not grow, not move on and to be honest, have a healthy life balance.

I know from my own personal experience, one needs to be willing to accept something is wrong and then make changes to ones life.
 
It's here because I don't want flaming in my thread,

I don't recall much, if any, flaming from your last thread "down below." There were a lot of people losing patience with you, and quite a bit of blunt assessment of your topic and your troubles in life, but nobody was insulting you or hurling abuse. We're worried about your well-being.

some of you would feel awfully free with using information entrusted to you from years ago to hit me over the head even against my statements for you not to do so

And yet you keep reaching out about your interests and your personal journey in life, and what have you. It's like you want people to be concerned about you, but then freak out and pull away when you can't keep complete control over how people respond to you.

All this philosophy you post is fine as far as it goes, but it's clear by now that its not going to help you get where you need to be in life, and it hurts those of us watching to see you continue to spin your wheels and open yourself up to abuse in your personal life, over and over again. When will it stop?
 
It's a hard life isn't it, individuals who like you, trying to help you and grow in a healthy way and not use certain circumstances as a crutch to not grow, not move on and to be honest, have a healthy life balance.

I know from my own personal experience, one needs to be willing to accept something is wrong and then make changes to ones life.

I don't recall much, if any, flaming from your last thread "down below." There were a lot of people losing patience with you, and quite a bit of blunt assessment of your topic and your troubles in life, but nobody was insulting you or hurling abuse. We're worried about your well-being.



And yet you keep reaching out about your interests and your personal journey in life, and what have you. It's like you want people to be concerned about you, but then freak out and pull away when you can't keep complete control over how people respond to you.

All this philosophy you post is fine as far as it goes, but it's clear by now that its not going to help you get where you need to be in life, and it hurts those of us watching f see you continue to spin your wheels and open yourself up to abuse in your personal life, over and over again. When will it stop?

Firstly, I don't want people to be concerned about me. What I want is for people to be concerned about others in far more dire situations. I want people to think about the forgotten, about those who get crushed underfoot. I want people to think about where we are in a society that rewards greed, and penalizes poverty. I want people to understand that we're replacing love with cynicism, knowledge with gossip, and compassion with judgment.

Secondly, I'll ask you just as I asked Dimesdan, not to pursue that topic because you don't fully understand what's going on, and now you're bringing it out here into Miscellaneous. I swear, if this starts happening again, I will not tolerate it so long this time, because it is harassment. It got to the point where people were sending things to my home. DO NOT do it again.
 
I don't recall much, if any, flaming from your last thread "down below." There were a lot of people losing patience with you, and quite a bit of blunt assessment of your topic and your troubles in life, but nobody was insulting you or hurling abuse. We're worried about your well-being.



And yet you keep reaching out about your interests and your personal journey in life, and what have you. It's like you want people to be concerned about you, but then freak out and pull away when you can't keep complete control over how people respond to you.

All this philosophy you post is fine as far as it goes, but it's clear by now that its not going to help you get where you need to be in life, and it hurts those of us watching to see you continue to spin your wheels and open yourself up to abuse in your personal life, over and over again. When will it stop?

All true and very good points.

The truth will set you free as the old saying goes, but also, ignorance is bliss.
Firstly, I don't want people to be concerned about me. What I want is for people to be concerned about others in far more dire situations. I want people to think about the forgotten, about those who get crushed underfoot. I want people to think about where we are in a society that rewards greed, and penalizes poverty. I want people to understand that we're replacing love with cynicism, knowledge with gossip, and compassion with judgment.

Actually leave your home, your town, your state and even your country, explore the world with your own senses, not through the proxy that is the internet and you'll be surprised by the good in the world at large.

Or stay at home, martyring yourself, spouting cod philosophy in your self fulfilling echo chamber of doom and gloom and using excuse after excuse to explain why your life is, to be frank, shit.

Your call.
 
Secondly, I'll ask you just as I asked Dimesdan, not to pursue that topic because you don't fully understand what's going on, and now you're bringing it out here into Miscellaneous. I swear, if this starts happening again, I will not tolerate it so long this time, because it is harassment. It got to the point where people were sending things to my home. DO NOT do it again.
J., I've got to be honest with you and say that I have no idea what's going on here. You're getting angry at people for addressing you personally, but then a lot of your OP was talking about yourself and how bummed out you are. You can't post something like that and then not expect anyone to address it. It's a message board built on back and forth conversation, not a blog.

You also addressed bigger picture concerns about the world at large, but it was kind of a long rambling nihilistic edgelord screed with no coherent focus, so I think a lot of people just went TL;DR and skipped it. You need to provide a clear and concise topic of discussion for people to follow and reply to, or else they're going to skim through and cherry pick the things that are most concerning to them, like your comments on your personal life. Please try and reboot the thread here if you want it to continue.

I honestly do think people had your best interests at heart both in your last TNZ thread and here, and while some of the commentary may have been blunt, it was done to shake you out of your funk and get you to change, not to hurt you, because people genuinely care about you and consider you a friend. But since you have asked so forcefully here, I will ask people to respect your wishes and not address his personal life in this thread again. But for future reference, that means not starting topics where you bring up so much of your personal feelings, because then it's natural for people to address that.

Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast already in progress.
 
J., I've got to be honest with you and say that I have no idea what's going on here. You're getting angry at people for addressing you personally, but then a lot of your OP was talking about yourself and how bummed out you are. You can't post something like that and then not expect anyone to address it. It's a message board built on back and forth conversation, not a blog.

You also addressed bigger picture concerns about the world at large, but it was kind of a long rambling nihilistic edgelord screed with no coherent focus, so I think a lot of people just went TL;DR and skipped it. You need to provide a clear and concise topic of discussion for people to follow and reply to, or else they're going to skim through and cherry pick the things that are most concerning to them, like your comments on your personal life. Please try and reboot the thread here if you want it to continue.

I honestly do think people had your best interests at heart both in your last TNZ thread and here, and while some of the commentary may have been blunt, it was done to shake you out of your funk and get you to change, not to hurt you, because people genuinely care about you and consider you a friend. But since you have asked so forcefully here, I will ask people to respect your wishes and not address his personal life in this thread again. But for future reference, that means not starting topics where you bring up so much of your personal feelings, because then it's natural for people to address that.

Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast already in progress.
Or I just got something off my chest because I worry about people who are hungry, sick, and dying. It's not edgelord. What? And it's not a screed. This goes back to the notion that people are more interested in gossip than they are in dealing with the issues being raised. If I were being nihilistic, I wouldn't give a damn about any of these people, and I'd be more pressed to say there's nothing we can do, because there are things we can do. I even make a direct call to action in order to improve life for others, which is the opposite of nihilism. You've missed the entire message of what I've posted. I love you, but your cynicism prevents you from seeing it as anything other than a genuine appeal for people to pay attention to what is happening to our society before it's too late. You, like a number of others, believe there is an ulterior motive here, and there isn't. I put everything out there. It can be seen as a prompt, as a large open ended discussion on what can be done, or as something to commiserate with. Maybe someone has similar thoughts and feelings, like @Spot261 mentioned above, and was relieved to see someone else feeling the same way.

Instead, what I'm getting from several members is an inability to separate what I'm talking about here and now, with things they insist on prying into that I've already said are off limits because none of you have the complete picture.

It's not connected. I realize you can't fully know that unless you can see inside my head, but the insistent to continue pushing it, against my will, against my wishes, and against my clearly worded statements, and some people sending items to my house after being told explicitly not to do those things, that is harassment. You think you know what's going on, but you don't. None of you truly know, but based off of the incomplete information, you're acting on it anyway, without thinking.

That said, I'd already asked for the thread to be closed a while ago. It's clear that there is no way to go forward with people who insist on throwing things up in my face that are unrelated to what I'm discussing. You think your post will stop it? Maybe it will, I don't know, but I can't take that chance any more. A lot of people lost my trust in TNZ. Now they want to bring it here, like some kind of twisted intervention for something of which they know so little about.

I love you guys, I do, and I always will.
 
What the hell are you talking about, dude? I'm not trying to stop you from posting anything and I didn't pry into your personal life. I just said to post a coherent premise for discussion and that you can't post personal comments and not expect people to address them. You need to get a grip.

Whatever, yeah, this is closed. Go get a blog.
 
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