Now I know that Voyager did the whole lost in space thing, but that series' arc revolved around getting home. What if Discovery remains in contact with known space for much of the series, but ultimately leaves the region voluntarily for whatever reason and is never heard of again? It might be a bit much for the audience to swallow, but I think it could work if done right. This could allow for interaction with species and peoples not seen in the universe until later in the future, as well as brand new threats and allies that are never noted by the Federation. It could be hinted at at the end of the series that the info from the ship could be found at a much later time, post-Nemesis. I think that this could give the story writers and freer hand.
A way to allow for new and post-TOS entities to be included; Discovery drifts off forever
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I agree that it would be best that any new aliens should be truly new, and that the Borg are a bit played out. Don't know about the Ferengi, but I think they had their prequel moment in ENT. Maybe the crew of Discovery could go on to save and organize a new civilization that goes being hidden for quite some time.
If the rock were a starfleet crewmember, he's be called "Ensign Beefcake".
Anyway, about the possibility of post TOS content included in the series, that isn't such a bad idea. Thanks to films like intersellar it can be possible to sell the idea of going on a journey that can take a vast amount of time. Discovery could begin its journey pre TOS and end up returning to the federation post Nemesis or even beyond.
The possibilities are endless with sci-fi (and good writers).
Anyway, about the possibility of post TOS content included in the series, that isn't such a bad idea. Thanks to films like intersellar it can be possible to sell the idea of going on a journey that can take a vast amount of time. Discovery could begin its journey pre TOS and end up returning to the federation post Nemesis or even beyond.
The possibilities are endless with sci-fi (and good writers).
Why are we looking for a way? The series is going to feature species we've never seen, and I'm sure species we've met post-TOS, and it will present clever and not so clever reasons for how that works. Whatever the reasons are, they are not going to involve stranding the whole crew for centuries, unless that was the original plot idea. While I would like a story where the crew would vanish for eons, I certainly wouldn't like a story where the plot revolves around meeting minor targets, like featuring post-TOS entities for the sake of featuring them.
And... Previous series hardly had issues coming up with explanations for this, good and bad:
* TOS: The Menagerie. General Order 7. Nobody learned about the Talosians after that incident.
* TNG: Clues. Nobody learned about the Paxans after that incident.
* Every second episode of Voyager: “No, I can't tell you.” “Why not?” “Temporal Prime Directive.” “Yawn.”
* ENT: Acquisition did a very good job there. It might even be considered defamatory to follow-up such incident with a description of the species for future reference. (Not that a description would help, in the Ferengi's infamous first appearance they were only known by name)
* The Borg were on 21st century Earth in First Contact, then in ENT: Regeneration, and none other than Mark Twain himself personally knew someone whose world they had destroyed. Yet we mysteriously never knew about the Borg.
* DS9: The Trill were in contact with humans in TOS, yet in TNG Dr. Crusher was shocked to meet a Trill. Seriously, who remembers all the species in the galaxy, and knows everything about them?
I'm sure the tradition here will be followed, except that Discovery will do it better.
And what are these post-TOS entities that anyone is excited to see return? The only interesting entities that cannot be featured without shenanigans are the Romulans and the Borg. And I feel the Romulans will be featured regardless of that. If the show runs long enough, so will the Borg.
Almost any other entity can either appear without any explanation, or wouldn't be interesting. (I'm looking for all those excited to see the Kazon return)
And... Previous series hardly had issues coming up with explanations for this, good and bad:
* TOS: The Menagerie. General Order 7. Nobody learned about the Talosians after that incident.
* TNG: Clues. Nobody learned about the Paxans after that incident.
* Every second episode of Voyager: “No, I can't tell you.” “Why not?” “Temporal Prime Directive.” “Yawn.”
* ENT: Acquisition did a very good job there. It might even be considered defamatory to follow-up such incident with a description of the species for future reference. (Not that a description would help, in the Ferengi's infamous first appearance they were only known by name)
* The Borg were on 21st century Earth in First Contact, then in ENT: Regeneration, and none other than Mark Twain himself personally knew someone whose world they had destroyed. Yet we mysteriously never knew about the Borg.
* DS9: The Trill were in contact with humans in TOS, yet in TNG Dr. Crusher was shocked to meet a Trill. Seriously, who remembers all the species in the galaxy, and knows everything about them?
I'm sure the tradition here will be followed, except that Discovery will do it better.
And what are these post-TOS entities that anyone is excited to see return? The only interesting entities that cannot be featured without shenanigans are the Romulans and the Borg. And I feel the Romulans will be featured regardless of that. If the show runs long enough, so will the Borg.
Almost any other entity can either appear without any explanation, or wouldn't be interesting. (I'm looking for all those excited to see the Kazon return)
What's the point of it being "Prime" or "23rd Century" or, even, "Star Trek", if it drifts away and has zero impact on anything else?
Given that 7 of 9's parents were studying the Borg when she was a child, I had figured Starfleet was at least vaguely aware of them. It might have been classified until Q flung the Enterprise out to see them.
I'd like to see them at least acknowledge an NX Class Discovery that fought in tht Romulan War.
From the fan film?
The Romulan War novels, were the NX-04 was nuked over Berengaria/Starbase 1 forcing the crew to abandon the ship as it was destroyed in orbit.
I wasn't a fan of the Romulan war as depicted in the Enterprise novels, and never read the last one.
Although Discovery makes sense as an NX-class name, since the first two were named after space shuttles.
Although Discovery makes sense as an NX-class name, since the first two were named after space shuttles.
A possible sequel series could bring it back somehow. Maybe a post-Nemesis series of special.
Not from fan films or novels, just shed more light on what events happened & the like. That is the single most important event in Trek history but we know so little.
Not everything needs to be revealed but 2255 is around the 100th anniversary of the war. Maybe an NX Discovery modles is proudly displayed in the observation room or a shuttle named for a participant.
This is just lazy. What happened to a show about character development set in the Star Trek universe? Why come up with some bullshit why we haven't heard of Discovery before now? Goddamnit, it's a big Federation.
The possibilities are endless:
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