A Typhon Pact film

[dammitjim6400]

In recent Star Trek novels taking place in the 24th century, there was an invasion by the Borg collective, they lay waste to dozens of world in the Beta Quadrant between Earth, Qo' noS and Romulas in the battle the Borg slaughtered 63 billion sentient beings, the crews of three Starfeet vessels provedinstrumental in stoppingn the Borg genocide and stoppingn them forever, they were the Enterprise-E commanded by Captain Jean luc Picard, the Titan commanded by William Riker and the Aventine Commanded by Ezri Dax (formerly of DS9) in the aftermath the federation became vunerable.40 percent of Starfleet was destroyed..Then a new political entity began to form Six interstellar nations with conflict against the Federation, The Romulans, The Breen Confereracy, the Tzenkethi Coalition, the Tholian Assembly and the Gorn Hegemony formed the Typhon Pact who could try to move in and take advantage of a weaken Federation.Although many of the actor's have moved on, Patrick Stewart could still probably play a nice Picard, other actors could fill the roles, could this make a good movie ?

 

[Maurice]

Huh? And that's what most movie audiences would say. That's much too Inside Baseball.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

If they just put the Typhon Pact out there without explaining how it was formed, I think it'd make a fine film.

 

[Mage]

The thing is, there's loads of backstory for the characters that explain why they are where they are. Like Dax being on the command track instead of councilor and not on DS9 anymore. So it could get pretty confusing for the average viewer I think, since explaining so much backstory would take to much time.

 

[BillJ]

The Typhon Pact novels were so dull, I finally dropped out of reading the 24th century books. I doubt a movie would fair much better.

 

[Dukhat]

Just that giant wall of text itself and the million things in it would scare me the fuck away from that film.

 

[CorporalClegg]

The Typhon Pact novels were so dull, I finally dropped out of reading the 24th century books. I doubt a movie would fair much better.

Yup.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

To make this they would need to make DS9 Season 8 in order to lay down the ground work for characters and plot points--which I strongly support .

I've not read any of the newer Trek novels for a while, so haven't gone anywhere near the Typhon Pact, but I would say there is no point in doing something that is already out there in print. A big epic plot involving multiple ships/crews would be interesting to see (though it would need to be at least two films to give such a big story justice), but drop the Borg and either use a totally new race or one that we've seen before that have managed to beef themselves up and become a major threat (I'd love to see the Breen with a fleet of Planet Killers).

As for what ships/crews, if it was established now, fifteen years after the end of VOY, then that would need to be kept in mind. For example, Picard would likely now be retired from Starfleet and serving as an Ambassador, Riker would be an Admiral, whilst both the Enterprise and Voyager would have new crews, so careful thought would need to be given to all the characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY to see just what their lives would be like now (seeing as how what happens in the books isn't canon and different paths for each could be chosen, such as Julian and Ezri now married with children and still residing on the station).

 

[Nebusj]

Although many of the actor's have moved on, Patrick Stewart could still probably play a nice Picard, other actors could fill the roles, could this make a good movie ?

What moviegoer could resist finding out whether the Tzenkethi Coalition can come to a working diplomatic agreement with the Gorn Hegemony? It would be an absolute money factory if we still used money anymore!

 

[dammitjim6400]

The Typhon Pact novels were so dull, I finally dropped out of reading the 24th century books. I doubt a movie would fair much better.

Okay, but if you find the novels dull that doesn't mean the movie will be, just think about the exciting battle scenes, we get to see Rikers ship the Titan, we would see the crews from TNG, Picard, Dr Crusher, La Forge, Riker, DS9 we would see Sisko, Ro Laren , Kira and Voyager, 7of 9 !, possible Janeway, The Romulans the Breen etc. The mainstream audience already knows who the Borg are, with a good story, I think this could work.

 

[BillJ]

Okay, but if you find the novels dull that doesn't mean the movie will be, just think about the exciting battle scenes, we get to see Rikers ship the Titan, we would see the crews from TNG, Picard, Dr Crusher, La Forge, Riker, DS9 we would see Sisko, Ro Laren , Kira and Voyager, 7of 9 !, possible Janeway, The Romulans the Breen etc. The mainstream audience already knows who the Borg are, with a good story, I think this could work.

Then you're just doing what people complained Abrams did, turn Star Trek into an action franchise.

 

[douwed]

I loved the Typhon pact books, but if you want to explore the typhin pact, surely a TV show would be a more ideal medium. You'd need to cram a lot into a two hour movie.

 

[RandyS]

The Typhon Pact novels were so dull, I finally dropped out of reading the 24th century books. I doubt a movie would fair much better.

Yeah. They really were a chore to get through. It's made me hesitant to read The Fall series follow up. But then, the 24th century novels as a whole have largely been a chore since they started moving the characters from where they're supposed to be.

 

[RandyS]

Okay, but if you find the novels dull that doesn't mean the movie will be, just think about the exciting battle scenes, we get to see Rikers ship the Titan, we would see the crews from TNG, Picard, Dr Crusher, La Forge, Riker, DS9 we would see Sisko, Ro Laren , Kira and Voyager, 7of 9 !, possible Janeway, The Romulans the Breen etc. The mainstream audience already knows who the Borg are, with a good story, I think this could work.

No you wouldn't, because with the exceptions of Picard and Crusher, none of those characters are where they belong.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm a fan of the novels, but if Trek were ever to return to the 24th century, those books are going the way of the old Star Wars EU

 

[JoeZhang]

In recent Star Trek novels taking place in the 24th century, there was an invasion by the Borg collective, they lay waste to dozens of world in the Beta Quadrant between Earth, Qo' noS and Romulas in the battle the Borg slaughtered 63 billion sentient beings, the crews of three Starfeet vessels provedinstrumental in stoppingn the Borg genocide and stoppingn them forever, they were the Enterprise-E commanded by Captain Jean luc Picard, the Titan commanded by William Riker and the Aventine Commanded by Ezri Dax (formerly of DS9) in the aftermath the federation became vunerable.40 percent of Starfleet was destroyed..Then a new political entity began to form Six interstellar nations with conflict against the Federation, The Romulans, The Breen Confereracy, the Tzenkethi Coalition, the Tholian Assembly and the Gorn Hegemony formed the Typhon Pact who could try to move in and take advantage of a weaken Federation.Although many of the actor's have moved on, Patrick Stewart could still probably play a nice Picard, other actors could fill the roles, could this make a good movie ?

No, not at all.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Maybe. But only if we can get Spike Lee to direct.

 

[David cgc]

Just that giant wall of text itself and the million things in it would scare me the fuck away from that film.

Pish-tosh, all of the post-TOS series would seem as intimidating and impenetrable if you just dumped all their backstory on the front door like that.

So there were these aliens, the Bajorans, and they were enslaved by these other aliens, the Cardassians. The Cardassians are fascists who embraced military extremism after they ruined their own world environmentally. So they took over Bajor for 50 years, but the Bajorans have been fighting against them and the Cardassians are finally fed up and have left the planet, leaving behind an old space-station. The Federation (a group of alien civilizations led by future-humanity that believes in freedom and democracy and all that good stuff) has decided to come and help the Bajorans by moving into the Cardassian's old space station, but then they find this wormhole, where the Bajoran gods live (the Bajorans have gods, and they're totally real). The main Federation guy is a single-dad with PTSD up the wazoo because his wife was killed by the Borg, a race of conquest-obsessed cybernetic zombies, and he hates the hero of the other show, Captain Picard (a Shakespeare-obsessed english-accented frenchman) because he was the Borg's general at the time. Anyway, Sisko meets the Bajoran gods, who don't have "time" in their dimension, and explains how time works with Baseball, and they ask why, if this "time" thing is so great, he's constantly reliving the moment his wife died, and he cries and has a catharsis and that's how the show starts. Also, his best friend is a young woman who used to be an old man because of a slug in her belly.

Anyway, let's skip to the good part. On the other side of the wormhole, there these other space fascists, who are led by this ocean of golden goo...

And so on. Everything sounds awful when you sum it up into an infodump.

So, in answer to the OP's question, I think it would be perfectly possible for a new Star Trek movie or TV show to be set in the novelverse continuity. It won't be, but it's possible. In Star Wars, the main draw of the franchise was those specific characters and situations, so you had to throw out the old EU if you wanted to tell a new story with recognizable versions of Luke, Han, and Leia. With the success of TNG, the key element of Star Trek became far more abstract, the setting and themes, and the specific characters and histories involved in any new series became far more malleable.

So, yeah, use the Typhon Pact. Oh, boo-hoo, the crew of the Enterprise-E is Picard, Worf, Crusher, Geordi, and a bunch of new people, and not our old favorites last seen thirteen years ago. Oh, wait, that's exactly the situation when we last saw them in "Nemesis." The idea of a bunch of second-string bad-guy aliens getting together into an anti-Federation is too complicated? Tough it out; back in '87 the Klingons went from being pirates who murdered Kirk's estranged son to members of the Federation (later retconned back a bit) without a word of explanation or comment. And Kirk had an estranged son we'd never heard of! How was that not too complicated and inside-baseball for audiences to figure out?

I guarantee you that if Series Six takes place in the Prime Universe, it'll involve changes to the galactic status quo that are just as sweeping and bizarre as everything that's happened in the novelverse, except you won't have a wikipedia article that'll walk you through how we got from here to there. Heck, it's already happened. Why did Romulus explode? Why was Spock the only person who could do anything about it? How was Spock even in a position to do anything about it; I thought he lived on Romulus? The only difference between that and starting a new Trek show continuing from the books is that those sorts of questions would actually have answers.

 

[iMike]

I absolutely loved the Typhon Pact novels, as well as The Fall series. Why? Because even in our favorite 24th century universe, time moves on. It's interesting to get to see our beloved characters move on with their lives.

 

[BillJ]

I absolutely loved the Typhon Pact novels, as well as The Fall series. Why? Because even in our favorite 24th century universe, time moves on. It's interesting to get to see our beloved characters move on with their lives.

I miss new stories set during the various TV series. Not saying they shouldn't publish things that move the clock forward, but some variety would be nice.