A Trek XI Plot Point Guarantee (Might As Well Be A Spoiler)

[slappy]

I will make this bold prediction....actually it's not that bold. Old Spock will mind meld with Young Spock giving him knowledge of the future. I promise you.

In fact, I think he might just receive his own katra before he dies some sort of heroic death, but I won't make any guarantees on that.

This will serve a couple of different purposes. It serves to guide and inform the new timeline, but keeps the tie between the two. It'll sort of foreshadow certain events without actually spoiling them or ever giving a clear resolution. Also it'll kill off old Spock and the old timeline without killing them off at all really.

 

[Kpnuts]

I don't think they'll get too geeky and indepth with the whole katra thing to be honest. Might happen but they're trying to keep this mainstream.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I don`t think they will even meet. A Mind Meld with Kirk however.... that might be a possibility.

 

[Cheebo]

A easier prediction: Spock will die once and for all.

I doubt they'll have spock blast off to the future again, He'll die. I'd be shocked if he doesn't.

I just hope they do a better job of killing off Nimoy's Spock than they did with Kirk.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don`t think they will even meet.

Quinto and Nimoy have both confirmed they have scenes together.

 

[CaptainDonovin]

But if Spock dies, will he say 'it was...fun.

 

[Cheebo]

The main problem is, Spock has already had a epic death and if (most likely when) they kill him off for good in this how in the world will they be able top the Khan death?

 

[Aragorn]

Why should speculation without basis be a spoiler?

 

[soot]

I will not be at all surprised if they mind meld, but I seriously doubt they'll play up any angle about young Spock gaining special knowledge of the future as a result. Passing the torch is a nice touch, but once that torch is passed they'll want a clean break.

 

[LutherSloan]

A easier prediction: Spock will die once and for all.

I doubt they'll have spock blast off to the future again, He'll die. I'd be shocked if he doesn't.

I just hope they do a better job of killing off Nimoy's Spock than they did with Kirk.

Yeah, I doubt that Nimoy-Spock is going to survive this. Plus, even if he did go 'back to the future', my guess is that the timeline would be radically different, since the Trek XI timeline diverges from the 'normal' one once Nero and Spock go back in time and start screwing stuff up.

 

[Gojira]

I'm not sure about the mindmeld with his younger self, but I won't rule it out. As far as Spock dying again. They have already done that. No use repeating it.

 

[Cheebo]

I'm not sure about the mindmeld with his younger self, but I won't rule it out. As far as Spock dying again. They have already done that. No use repeating it.

If not kill him, do what with him? Sending him back to the future makes little sense due to the fact the time line will have been so drastically altered it won't be where he belongs. And from a story telling perspective having him go "See ya'!" and zoom off to the future isn't as satisfying of a conclusion as seeing a beloved character of the last 40 years die in action.

 

[Michael]

I'm not sure about the mindmeld with his younger self, but I won't rule it out. As far as Spock dying again. They have already done that. No use repeating it.

If not kill him, do what with him? Sending him back to the future makes little sense due to the fact the time line will have been so drastically altered it won't be where he belongs. And from a story telling perspective having him go "See ya'!" and zoom off to the future isn't as satisfying of a conclusion as seeing a beloved character of the last 40 years die in action.

I don't know where people get this altered timeline stuff from. Are there actually people who have already seen the movie?

 

[SonicRanger]

^^^

No, but we're not in denial either. We know, from the first 5 or 10 minutes of the film, that the timeline will be changed... and it gets more divergent from there.

 

[slappy]

The writers have said as much about the alternate timeline. So it's not as assumption.

I would hope that somehow Spock is able to transport himself back to his timeline, thus ensuring that it does still exist. Maybe the Narada explodes and creates a rift. I'm sure some technobabble will suffice.

 

[Kirk1980]

Yeah, I swear to God...if they technobabble like the modern era Treks, I'll go spare.

And Spock dying again will be awesome for the newbies....potentially meh for us Trekkies.

"Been there, done that and cried. Moving on."

 

[Michael]

No, but we're not in denial either. We know, from the first 5 or 10 minutes of the film, that the timeline will be changed... and it gets more divergent from there.

The writers have said as much about the alternate timeline. So it's not as assumption.

Did I miss the interview where the writers say the timeline won't be fixed at the end of the movie?

 

[BillJ]

I'm not sure about the mindmeld with his younger self, but I won't rule it out. As far as Spock dying again. They have already done that. No use repeating it.

If not kill him, do what with him? Sending him back to the future makes little sense due to the fact the time line will have been so drastically altered it won't be where he belongs. And from a story telling perspective having him go "See ya'!" and zoom off to the future isn't as satisfying of a conclusion as seeing a beloved character of the last 40 years die in action.

I don't know where people get this altered timeline stuff from. Are there actually people who have already seen the movie?

I think it's pretty much common sense at this point that this represents a new timeline.

 

[SalvorHardin]

^^^

No, but we're not in denial either. We know, from the first 5 or 10 minutes of the film, that the timeline will be changed... and it gets more divergent from there.

And to quote:

Orci :It is the reason why some things are different, but not everything is different. Not everything is inconsistent with what might have actually happened, in canon. Some of the things that seem that they are totally different, I will argue, once the film comes out, fall well within what could have been the non-time travel version of this move.

Abrams: So the answer to your question is that there are a million references and the story adheres to canon pretty much as well as The Original Series adheres to canon, the movie really does. I mean that.
You all know, even with The Original Series, there are some contradictions.

Orci: Everyone here respects and was inspired by what Trek was and this movie is in a unique situation where it is both a prequel, but a sequel. All of Trek that preceded this movie is necessary within canon for this movie to have happened.

 

[Michael]

If not kill him, do what with him? Sending him back to the future makes little sense due to the fact the time line will have been so drastically altered it won't be where he belongs. And from a story telling perspective having him go "See ya'!" and zoom off to the future isn't as satisfying of a conclusion as seeing a beloved character of the last 40 years die in action.

I don't know where people get this altered timeline stuff from. Are there actually people who have already seen the movie?

I think it's pretty much common sense at this point that this represents a new timeline.

Well, I don't argue that an altered timeline will be central to the plot of this movie. I just don't see why people think it won't be fixed at the end. (Well, I guess for people who think the look of the bridge and ship constitutes the original timeline, it will never be fixed anyway. )