A "sideways" reboot for TOS

[shanejayell]

Set a series in TOS era, but staring a different class of ship and a new crew.

*Update the technology while keeping a TOS look
*Crossover with elements of TOS. Klingon conflicts, romulans and maybe explore things we didn't see. Section 31? Cardassia in that era? The Breen? The Vanguard series?
*pull a "Trials and Tribbilations" crossover or two.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'd hate to see Section 31 retconned into TOS times. I certainly hope that Abrams and company are jettisoning all that faux-gritty crap.

In any event, since Abrams is rebooting the TOS period in his movie it's not likely that Paramount would permit a contradictory reboot to server as a basis for a TV series. Not for the foreseeable future.

 

[trekkerguy]

I'd hate to see Section 31 retconned into TOS times. I certainly hope that Abrams and company are jettisoning all that faux-gritty crap.

In any event, since Abrams is rebooting the TOS period in his movie it's not likely that Paramount would permit a contradictory reboot to server as a basis for a TV series. Not for the foreseeable future.

BUT, the sideways would be cool. Maybe they could do a TV series, based
off the new rebooted JJ-Trek, but on a different ship with a different crew.
And then just continue the movie series using the main "Hero" characters of
Kirk and company and the Enterprise.

 

[cybersoldier]

Look enterprise was an attempt to reboot the star trek universe, it can be looked by some fans a prequeal to the universe TOS,TNG,DS9, and VOY. And by others as a prequeal to star trek XI and section 31 was in the last season so we may see them if a new TOS era series is created.

 

[shanejayell]

BUT, the sideways would be cool. Maybe they could do a TV series, based off the new rebooted JJ-Trek, but on a different ship with a different crew. And then just continue the movie series using the main "Hero" characters of Kirk and company and the Enterprise.

That's pretty much my thought. WE could use JJ's updates and 'retcon' them into TOS trek, along with making Trek look futuristic again.

 

[Broccoli]

I'd hate to see Section 31 retconned into TOS times.

Ahem. And if that wasn't enough, as others have mentioned, 31 was seen on Enterprise, making it clear that it was around during the time of TOS (in addition to them mentioning they have been around for 300 years (or 200 if you prefer the DVD release).

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'd hate to see Section 31 retconned into TOS times.

Ahem.

Not canon, not part of official continuity.

I can't help what was done with "Enterprise." As of now, that Section 31 shit hasn't appeared as part of the TOS format and I certainly hope that it never does. Abrams and his people don't seem to be interested - hell, it's pretty simplistic stuff compared to his portrayals of conspiracies and secrets, and is probably hardly inspiration for anything.

It's the kind of useless minutiae that's unlikely to come up again in a reboot.

 

[shanejayell]

I dunno. I think enough TV writers have read the books and gone "Well, this is interesting." Besides, if we continue with it being canon to DS9, we almost have to work 31 in.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I could see a "sideways" TV series taking off on the success of the movie reboot. But stick only to TOS era things. No Borg, no Dominion, no Cardies or Bajorans. S31 is fine, since ENT already established that as being in the 22nd C.

 

[SupAJ1M]

no

 

[hellsgate]

"S.T.: TAS" but with a new 2009 twist -- gay/lesbian/bi/transgendered characters & more of the older races we haven't seen before due to cosmetic & other budget constraints. (Edosians, Tellarites, etc.) Plus new & old design starship designs of "localised" fleets from the original Starfleet / Federation charter worlds. (Xindi Aquatic, etc.) & "Phase 2" designs that didn't make it on-screen the first time in Classic TOS / TAS.

 

[shanejayell]

Animated?

Hmm.

Actually, I kinda like that. It'd have to be high quality, tho, not like the original Trek Animated.

 

[bryce]

"S.T.: TAS" but with a new 2009 twist -- gay/lesbian/bi/transgendered characters &

Screw that!

Gay characters are so cliche!

And face it - gay is so...TwenCen.

This is the 23rd Century - we should be talking post-humanity - transhumanism (something like Roddenberry's idea of "New Humans" - but make them the crew.)

In three and four-hundred years, concepts like "gay" and "straight" - "male" and "female" (or even "human" and "machine") may very well be "quaint" and arachaic - to everyone but ultra-conservative neo-Luddite "throwbacks"*.

*(But they prefer to call themselves "Natural Humans" (but some hardlines prefer "True Humans") "throwback" is considered an insult - the polite name is "basicform humanity"...)

Get wierd...get way wierd...

Have characters change sex - and back again (or even swap bodies ) like they change uniforms...have "male" characters get pregnant...have some characters - alien and human - with no sex - or both...or all three sexes...

And make them, to various degrees, cybernetic...

Show how technology, and encounters with aliens (true aliens...who are truley alien) have changed humanity in all sorts of extreme ways!

But throw in one of these "True Human" throwbacks in the crew for contrast - take Trek's standard cliche of having a sole alien/android/hologram character to be a "mirror" for humanity - and completely turn it on it's head - this time make the "mirror" a regular, average, everyday (by 21st century standards) human being.

 

[Mr. B]

I'm sorry but this sounds stupid... just another way to piss on canon for no good reason. Why cover a timeframe already done by 3 seasons of TV and six movies? A post-Nemesis show could have a lot more freedom with substantially less risk of tainting the extensive Trek mythos.

 

[Captain Pike]

I don't want any "sideways reboot". I want Star Trek, TOS era, on the Enterprise. Preferably with Pike as captain.

 

[Irishman]

"S.T.: TAS" but with a new 2009 twist -- gay/lesbian/bi/transgendered characters &

Screw that!

Gay characters are so cliche!

And face it - gay is so...TwenCen.

This is the 23rd Century - we should be talking post-humanity - transhumanism (something like Roddenberry's idea of "New Humans" - but make them the crew.)

In three and four-hundred years, concepts like "gay" and "straight" - "male" and "female" (or even "human" and "machine") may very well be "quaint" and arachaic - to everyone but ultra-conservative neo-Luddite "throwbacks"*.

*(But they prefer to call themselves "Natural Humans" (but some hardlines prefer "True Humans") "throwback" is considered an insult - the polite name is "basicform humanity"...)

Get wierd...get way wierd...

Have characters change sex - and back again (or even swap bodies ) like they change uniforms...have "male" characters get pregnant...have some characters - alien and human - with no sex - or both...or all three sexes...

And make them, to various degrees, cybernetic...

Show how technology, and encounters with aliens (true aliens...who are truley alien) have changed humanity in all sorts of extreme ways!

But throw in one of these "True Human" throwbacks in the crew for contrast - take Trek's standard cliche of having a sole alien/android/hologram character to be a "mirror" for humanity - and completely turn it on it's head - this time make the "mirror" a regular, average, everyday (by 21st century standards) human being.

I love where you're going with this. I long ago thought of what it would be like to have a real 22nd century Trek crew (like "Enterprise" should have been), but cast all multi-racial actors for the human roles. Because I think that, as national boundaries are blurred (within the next 60 years I believe we'll see the concept of "race" largely disappear for the nationalities who travel. And it is the people who are inclined to travel and see the world who would by and large populate Starfleet). So, there would begin to be a more common look to humans who travel in space. Think Tiger Woods, or Halle Berry, or Jessica Alba. Altogether darker skin tones, natural blondes are expected to fall from the gene pool within a century.
Let some smart casting reflect that.

Then, when it comes to human languages, remember there was an attempt to create a common language, but it never caught on. It was called Esparento. You can find websites devoted to it, and I think it would be a nice touch if Trek let this be the future language of humans in the 22nd century.


And, as you said, let the aliens look alien. But in a smart way, as well. If you want an alien to have oddly large eyes, then it better come from a planet with little sunlight. No more of the forehead of the week crap.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

potential TOS series

Set a series in TOS era, but staring a different class of ship and a new crew.

*Update the technology while keeping a TOS look

I thought they did this with ST:Enterprise. Some of the things were preTOS tech but some things looked a lot like Voyager technology. Yeah yeah the producers of ST:Enterprise felt they had to update the visual look for today's TV audience.
At least the ST:ENT ship was an attempt to look older than TOS and lit way better (due to the much faster film stocks sensitivity) they were lit for drama not like a big musical number.

Look any new Trek on TV will come down to Paramount thinking what would be best for the period before the next feature film . from May 2009-sometime in 2011.
miniseries, CGI animated series, new tv episodic weekly....

 

[Wowbagger]

Five days late, but I wanted to note that, technically, the dark-ops organization observed in Enterprise was never stated to be Section 31.

I like to cling to this, as I, too, am not a fan of the idea.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Five days late, but I wanted to note that, technically, the dark-ops organization observed in Enterprise was never stated to be Section 31.

But it obviously *was* Section 31, nonetheless. They did mention Article 14, *Section 31* of the Starfleet charter, and Agent Harris dressed in the same kind of uniform Sloan wore on DS9.