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A question for KRAD, regarding Rodek and Toq

foravalon

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"Kai Krad!"

So I've finally gotten to the first of the IKS Gorkon books after having read through the Final Reflection. I have to say I appreciate Krad's thematic style and references regarding the Klingons so much more now that I've read Mr. Ford's work. The Black Fleet, diplomacy as the Art of the Possible, "Only a fool fights in a burning house." (which I guess was Bixby's before it was Ford's, but C'est la vie, the sentiment of the nods are still there). I really appreciate the work Keith has done for this genre, and continues to do. It's amazing and you rock Keith! I loved the previous stories of the Gorkon and its crew and I'm excited about the forthcoming tales I'll soon be reading!

I'm still only a bit over halfway through A Good Day to Die, shortly after the Capture the Flag contest. But the scene in the sickbay with Toq at the bedside of the unconscious Rodek struck a chord with me. Toq seems rather passionate about tending to his friend, offhand I couldn't remember any particular bonding that the characters had previously had, but, it occurs to me that, unbeknownst
to either of them, Rodek and Toq are foster brothers, having both been raised by Lorgh.

Without spoiling anything from my future readings, does any acknowledgment of this connection ever come to light? To me, it seems no wonder there is an inexplicable kinship between the two. It's obvious Rodek knows nothing of his life as Kurn, but Lorgh is the only father that Kurn had ever known. What were Lorgh's thoughts about his adoptive son's transition into Rodek? Surely he must somehow know of it, I doubt there are many secrets to which he isn't privy, he's got connections. Does he know his two adoptive sons are serving together? Did he manipulate things so that this would be so?

It's a strange Dickens-ian sort of twist, but one I rather like, being a fan of Lorgh after reading Art of the Impossible. My heart also goes out to Kurn for all of the crippling blows he's received thus far in the perpetual game. His life is like a strange reflection of his brother Worf's, but far more tragic. I love the enthusiastic spirit of Toq as well, and the idea of these characters forming a bond, some sort of family sown from the seeds of tragedy, it's a very uplifting one. I don't know if any of it will ever happen, but the facts that all the players are there, the relationship that Toq has with Worf, the ties Toq has to the Massacre at Khitomer, the unfounded kinship between he and Rodek, the knowledge Worf has and Lorgh may have regarding the younger characters... Hell, throw Alexander and Jeremy Aster into the mix and you've got a burgeoning house right there, motley and strange as it is. I don't know, kidding aside, there just seem like a lot of personal connections present that neither of the characters seem aware of, and given the conviction of Toq in the scene and the tradgedy of Rodek/Kurn's circumstances in general, the circumstances are rife with possibilities.
 
All I will say is that we see more of Lorgh, Toq, and Rodek in A Burning House (on sale very very soon), and some (though not all) of your questions will be answered there.

:evil: :klingon:

Apropos of nothing, I've recently decided that Lorgh should be played by Sir Derek Jacobi....
 
Thanks Keith! I can't wait to read it! Is Burning House going to be a bit like the eXcalibur trilogy from NF? If it is I can't wait to see all the unexplored corners of non-military life in the Empire. Tee-hee! [coughs] um, I mean Qapla'!

Likewise Apropos of nuthin'

On the subject of familial tragedy, it occurs to me that the family history of almost every one of TNG senior staff reads like the exposition of a Disney film. In no particular order, here is a short list of said downers.

Data
-First "love" killed by evil tar monster
-Dead Grandfather took over body and was a dick to all of Data's friends
-Family presumed killed by crystalline entity
-Mother really killed escaping from crystalline entity
-Father really killed by evil twin brother
-Evil Twin Brother
-Evil Twin Brother teamed up with crystalline entity to try and kill all of Data's friends
-Daughter essentially dies of birth defect
-Data has to kill Evil Twin Brother, who has stolen his emotions, gone even crazier, and recruited wayward Borg in half-assed cockamamie plot to destroy the Federation for no good reason.

Picard
-Shunned by father for leaving vineyard life for the stars
-Despised by brother for being good at, like, everything.
-After reconciling with only brother and meeting plucky nephew, both are arbitrarily killed in awful fire because traditionalist brother doesn't believe in modern new-fangled fire-suppression technology.
-Perpetually pining, yet guilt-ridden over lust for dead best friend's wife. (Poo or get off the 'fresher Jean Luc! it's been 24 years already)

Beverly
-Parents killed at tragedy of Arvada III
-Seduced by recently deceased centenarian grandmother’s old "lover", (brings new meaning ew and wrongness)
-Husband killed in action on Stargazer.
-Orphaned boy-genius son ascends and "travels" away, leaving her behind, so sad.

Geordi
-Mom lost in space
-Best friend now dead
-Bad luck with the ladies, artificial lifeform best friend getting ladies left and right, only successful relationship was with a hologram of a married woman

Riker
-Mom died when he was a wee babe
-Raised by cold and distant father
-Reconciles with father, only to become estranged again, only to half-reconcile again, only to lose him completely to a stray disrupter blast. (cue trombone, wah-waaaa)

Worf
-Parents killed
-Lover killed
-Wife killed
-Brother essentially lobotomized, and mind wiped
-Father dishonored retroactively
-Discommendated, vindicated, and then entire house dissolved completely.

Deanna
-Mind-raped on more than one occasion
-Father killed
-Big sister drowned
-Week-old son dead
-Eccentric slightly crazy mom often in the throes of "The Phase" (Dea's mom is apparently also a black widow: Ian Andrew, dead. Timicin, dead. Jeyal, apparently dead. Odo, surprisingly, Not Dead. Good on ya mate! Also, E-harmony catch Campio, not dead, but that's only because the computer dating service was waaay off on its compatibility algorithms.)


Tasha Yar
-raised on planet rape-gang-palooza
-subsequently killed by evil tar monster
-Resurrected by time-space snafu, survives backwards time-leap and subsequent Romulan massacre and imprisonment, only to be put to death by squealing pre-teen daughter. (I guess it’s better than being offed while wrapped in cellophane by a blood-analyst serial killer, or a creepy reanimated toddler for that matter.)
 
Thanks Keith! I can't wait to read it! Is Burning House going to be a bit like the eXcalibur trilogy from NF? If it is I can't wait to see all the unexplored corners of non-military life in the Empire. Tee-hee! [coughs] um, I mean Qapla'!
Not sure I understand the question. I suppose there will be some vague structural similarities to that trilogy....


Jeyal, apparently dead.
Says who? :confused:
 
KRAD said:
Thanks Keith! I can't wait to read it! Is Burning House going to be a bit like the eXcalibur trilogy from NF? If it is I can't wait to see all the unexplored corners of non-military life in the Empire. Tee-hee! [coughs] um, I mean Qapla'!
Not sure I understand the question. I suppose there will be some vague structural similarities to that trilogy....

I only meant similiar in the regard that the central characters split ways from their ship and go and visit their respective home lives, go on special missions, or depart on spiritual journeys and the like. Enterprise's "Home" had a similiar structure, with T'pol and Trip heading for Vulcan, Archer going to climb a rock, and some of the other guys getting into bar brawls and the such. To a lesser extent, TNG's "Family" as well. All stories I love since they break out of the paradigm a bit and let us explore different sides of the characters lives and different corners of the Trek 'verse.

Jeyal, apparently dead.
Says who? :confused:

I must be totally crazy, I've been on a frantic reading binge lately, so of course I can't remember where, but I could have sworn I read a scene somewhere recently reflecting on Lwaxana's relationships, and an offhand comment that Barin's father had recently passed away. But now I've lost track.
 
^ In that case, yes, it's the same kind of story as the Excalibur trilogy, "Home," and "Family," to wit, the crew is scattered to the nine winds. :)
 
foravalon, did you read the excerpt for A Burning House on S&S yet? Because that hints at a very intersting story(arc) for Rodek.
 
Sweet! No I haven't read it yet, I've still got two and a half Gorkon books to get through as well as Forged in Fire. But I can't wait make it there!
 
The short story from Tales of the Dominion War "The Ceremony of Innocence Is Drowned" established that Campio (the e-harmony guy) had died.
 
ah ha! I knew somebody died I just got confused as to who. I was mixing up Tony Jay in my head with Michael Ansara, who share a similar position of awesomeness in my brain (awesome villain work, awesome voice-over work, tall, lean, and bad-ass), and both had almost been married to Lwaxana. I confuse the events of Narendra III and Khitomer in my head all the time in the same way. Thanks for throwing that out there ToddCam I thought I was going nuts.

So, revising the count: Third Minister Campio, dead.
Another casualty in the wake of hurricane Lwaxana.

R.I.P Tony Jay, you were the best!
 
I haven't read any of the Gorkon books so will I be able to follow A Burning House or is this supposed to be part of the Gorkon books.
 
greenmystik said:
will I be able to follow A Burning House or is this supposed to be part of the Gorkon books.
Yes, and yes. Your question is a false dichotomy. :)

Seriously, I'm quite sure that Keith will deftly bring you up to speed, even if you haven't read any of the previous Gorkon books.

If you're still not sure, you can read the first scene at SimonSays.com.
 
greenmystik said:
so will I be able to follow A Burning House or is this supposed to be part of the Gorkon books.

You really think KRAD would deliberately make his new novel inaccessible to a wider audience? ;)
 
I just didn't know if I would be completely lost not having read any of the Gorkon series.

It's good to know that I will be able to follow it because it sounds great having read the first scene. Thanx for that Geoff
 
They're all cool, you should check out "Diplomatic Implausibility", see if you dig it, and go from there.
 
I've read "Diplomatic Implausibility" but I read it when it first was published and haven't re-read it since. I remember not being to thrilled with the book when I read it.
 
^^^
Really? Different strokes, I guess. Diplomatic Implausibility was the book that began my lifelong KRAD man-crush. :D
 
I had a similar experience the first time I read The Brave and the Bold: Book Two. I didn't know who Klag was, and I wanted to see more of the Enterprise crew. If you're looking for the regular TNG characters and get a heavy dose of Klingons, then the experience can be a little disappointing. Now that I know what to expect, I enjoy the first two Gorkon stories much more.
 
yeah, DI is a back-door pilot in that regard, it's kinda like "Assignment: Earth", you're watching your regularly scheduled episode, then all the sudden all you get is Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln, kinda lame for your usual main characters but a cool beginning for a bunch of new characters.
 
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