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A previous USS Voyager?

However, was kirk missing or dead? Do they name Shuttles after living people?

Who the frak had the "river" fixation on DS9? Was that starfleet or Sisko?

Starfleet, Danube runabouts are named after rivers. The Yellowstone class runabout (VOY "Non Sequitur") are named after parks.

Funny thing, too. It's the only class in Starfleet that has a real-worldish naval naming convention. I wonder if any other classes have a "naming theme".
 
However, was kirk missing or dead? Do they name Shuttles after living people?

Who the frak had the "river" fixation on DS9? Was that starfleet or Sisko?

Starfleet, Danube runabouts are named after rivers. The Yellowstone class runabout (VOY "Non Sequitur") are named after parks.

You do know that the Yellowstone is also a river, don't you?


Yes, I know of the Yellowstone river throught the Yellowstone national park. I thought the river theme was continuing, but what I read at multiple location states parks as the name for the new Yellowstone class runabout.
http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Yellowstone_class
It is probably still river names for all runabouts danube or yellowstone classes and these other sites are mistaken.
 
Everyone's hung up on the 'they won't name it voyager because of V'ger' thing, but there was a couple of hundred years of Starfleet history before then, who's to say there wasn't an NX-class named Voyager?

Ok, so there were no models of previous ships of the name in the ready room, but neither was there on Sisko's defiant and we know there were a couple of them...(though, in fairness, the Defiant was a warship and would probably go without such trinkets.)
 
Then again, many argue that Janeway's ship was "a warship" or "without trinkets", too.

Star Trek outside the televised or filmed fiction has used the name USS Voyager for starships a couple of times. The old Spaceflight Chronology featured an entire Voyager class in the early 23rd century, although there were no pictures or other hints as to the design. The novel Dyson Sphere features another such class (or then the same, only with a longevity spell because that was in the 2370s).

Timo Saloniemi
 
V'ger fell through a worm hole and landed on the other side of the (universe?) galaxy. Voyager got dragged from a wormwhole and landed on the other side of the galaxy. Usually it takes three points of interest to create a pattern, but no dumb fuck is willing to chance being thrown to the other side of the galaxy to test that the name Voyager is not some gawd awful mighty Jinx.

There is also no USS Minnow.
 
Starfleet never minded naming further ships or ship classes after inglorious TOS losses - indeed, IIRC the only name they didn't reuse on screen was Exeter. Heck, they even decided the Voyager would be of Intrepid class, even though the "Evil I" is one of the very few warship names that are actually considered jinxed today...

But no, no USS Titanic in the Trek universe as far as I know.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Starfleet never minded naming further ships or ship classes after inglorious TOS losses - indeed, IIRC the only name they didn't reuse on screen was Exeter. Heck, they even decided the Voyager would be of Intrepid class, even though the "Evil I" is one of the very few warship names that are actually considered jinxed today...

But no, no USS Titanic in the Trek universe as far as I know.

Timo Saloniemi

Since one Intrepid got her nacelle blown off fighting the Xindi, the next was destroyed by a giant space amoeba (killing 400 Vulcans) and a ship of the Intrepid class was lost in space for seven years, I'd say that curse is still going strong in Trek's future.
 
...But not stopping the naming. And who would ever want to name a ship "Enterprise"...?

Timo Saloniemi
 
V'ger fell through a worm hole and landed on the other side of the (universe?) galaxy. Voyager got dragged from a wormwhole and landed on the other side of the galaxy. Usually it takes three points of interest to create a pattern, but no dumb fuck is willing to chance being thrown to the other side of the galaxy to test that the name Voyager is not some gawd awful mighty Jinx.

:lol:

BTW, while V’ger was from Voyager 6 in the ST-verse, IRL, there was only Voyager 1 and Voyager 2. Now, the original name for these craft was even more boring: “MJS” for “Mars Jupiter Saturn,” according to the paperwork I got from JPL decades ago. Could be wrong; haven’t looked at it in years, but the tie-pin with MJS looks just like Voyager.
 
Either way there are plenty of reasons to name a ship Voyager.

A quick wikipedia search lists two Royal Navy and an US Navy ship to bear the name in the real world: I'm sure a more detailed search would reveal more.
dJE


Interesting, I didn't know that.
Neither did I before I looked - although I found more or less what I was expecting to find. At the end of the there are a range of names which are fairly obvious names for vessels without any particular knowledge or history associated with that name: Enterprise, Voyager, Intrepid (you've hinted at some kind of "curse" on that name that I'm not familiar with), Victory, are all examples of this.

Then again, many argue that Janeway's ship was "a warship" or "without trinkets", too.

I always thought it was specifically built for long-range exploration...

I always thought of her as a "long-range, short duration" vessel: She'd go a relatively long distance to do a specific time task for a short period of time and then come back, lay up for repairs. The only two actual missions assigned to Intrepid class ships that I can thing of us knowing about (Voyager's original mission and the Bellephone's[sp/] in Inter Arma Enim Silent Lege would arguably support this.

dJE
 
I look at the Intrepid-class as being a multipurpose cruiser, capable of a variety of deep-space assignments from routine patrol, to tactical interdiction/intelligence-gathering operations, to courier missions, to exploration and research.
 
She seems like an interceptor to me. Packing quite a bit of fire power for a ship it's size but she has some pretty light armor. those engines go down just by blinking...
 
"A Vision of the Future" suggests Voyager was concieved as a Frigate - but that idea never made it to screen. The Voyager we see in the show is a smaller Enterprise-D with a snazzier bridge. They had every luxury: Personal replicators, holodecks, gigantic multi-roomed crew quarters, infinite shuttles...
 
An 8th the crew dude, and if we can extrapolate from Yesterdays Enterprise, if Picard's warship was capable of transporting 6 thousand soldiers then so could Picards Ship of Peace since the exterior of the two vessels was identical.... A 56th the "potential" standing crew.
 
Yup. You can fit thirty soldiers in the same space as a four person family.

My personal theory is that the whole "family" bullshit was invented so that they could justify building massive warships in basically an era of peace.

It wouldn't take long to refit the family rooms into bunks and billets when the new enemy finally shows up.
 
Based upon when Voyager was built, I'm guessing she was designed in response to the massacre at Wolf 359. She's fast, packs a lot of fire-power that's is incredibly effective against the Borg, has almost unbelievable repair capabilities, doesn't carry families, and, though not quite as small as the Defiant, is clearly a reversal of Starfleet's trend towards huge Galaxy and Nebula class ships.
 
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