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A musing on Ziyal

Bry_Sinclair

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Going through DS9 I had almost forgotten how much I liked Ziyal. Though I did get thinking. With her being Dukat's daughter, I can see why having her fall for Garak was a good dynamic for the trio.

I was thinking, how might it have worked had Ziyal and Jake become involved?
 
Going through DS9 I had almost forgotten how much I liked Ziyal. Though I did get thinking. With her being Dukat's daughter, I can see why having her fall for Garak was a good dynamic for the trio.

I was thinking, how might it have worked had Ziyal and Jake become involved?

Hard to say. Garak and Ziyal, as much sense as it makes, it sort of creepy just by sole virtue of Ziyal being so young and Garak literally being old enough to be her father.

Jake and Ziyal would be interesting. They'd have a bit in common with her interest in art and his in writing at least. Being the same age it wouldn't be a creepy either.

Sisko might hate it, just because Dukat would probably use it as an excuse to say what good friends they should be and how much they have in common.
 
Jake/Ziyal would have been pretty cool, maybe. The "artistic minds" thing and the Sisko/Dukat change in dynamic would be nice. The tragic end would help to foreshadow the tragic end to any attempt at civility Sisko and Dukat ever had.
 
As far as I understood it, Ziyal had romantic feelings for Garak, which he did not reciprocate. Sure, he cared about her, but not like that...I believe that much of his affection was due to his having been so lonely in exile up until that point. Probably, this is also true of Ziyal.

I agree that a closer relationship with Jake would have made things interesting; it didn't even need to be romantic...but I would have liked to see more psychological damage on people in the aftermath of her death. Dukat went bananas, Garak was sad but composed, and everyone else was kind of meh. Sure, Kira day-dreamed of kicking Damar's head in for shooting the girl, but that's not a consequence. Nobody seemed to really lose any sleep over her death. You didn't see any effects of grief; not really. A closer relationship with Jake might have changed that.
 
I get that Garak was a lot older than her, but I wasn't squicked out, mostly because the (romantic) affection seemed rather one-sided. Garak was very gentlemanly towards her and would always playfully make light of her feelings for him when she tried to the turn the conversation to that. They never got past that whole hand-pressing thing they would do sometimes (which is the Cardassian equivalent of holding hands, I guess?). Also, the one time they kiss, it's clearly Ziyal who initiates it, while Garak looks almost uncomfortable.

I really can't fault Garak for being spending time with Ziyal. He was lonely, and she was the only other Cardassian on the station. I think Garak was drawn to her innocence and naivete, and that he was drawn to Bashir for much the same reason. Both of them are such a contrast to his cynical, secretive worldview. Garak also seemed positively baffled by the idea that Zyial could be in love with him. I still remember the exchange between him and Kira in "Sacrifice of Angels" when they're in the infirmary with Ziyal's body:

Kira: She loved you.
Garak: I never understood why. *strokes Ziyal's face* Now I suppose I never will.

*sniff*

All that being said, I think a romance with Jake could have been interesting, especially when their respective fathers were at odds. I imagine Sisko would be pretty ok with the relationship, but I'm sure Dukat would see Ziyal's involvement with the son of his enemy as a "betrayal," much as he did Ziyal's "relationship" with Garak. That could have been an interesting dynamic, and probably could still have worked even if Ziyal and Jake were just friends.
 
No, this whole "enemy" thing between Dukat and Sisko only happened after Dukat's character got fucked over....i.e., in series 6. I believe Dukat might have been a little uncomfortable with his daughter romancing Sisko Junior, but in the light of Sisko's even greater discomfort, he would probably have pretended to love it...at the least, he would have tried to take advantage of it at some point, methinks.
 
I would have liked a Jake/Ziyal romance, Jake was really underused and this could have given him a lot of material to work with.
 
I would have liked a Jake/Ziyal romance, Jake was really underused and this could have given him a lot of material to work with.

Really? I thought Jake was used in a perfect dose. I thought he got a lot, seeing as "The Captain's son" isn't inherently a huge role. In the opening seasons there were plenty of episodes focused solely on Nog and Jake, while in the later episodes, Jake was not only featured as a friend of all the senior staff, but there were several episodes built around his passion for writing.

The Jake/Ziyal couple would have been cool, but I thought it was pretty cool to see a less lonely side of Garak.
 
Sisko might hate it, just because Dukat would probably use it as an excuse to say what good friends they should be and how much they have in common.
That was my thinking. Dukat was deluded enough to believe he and Sisko had a lot in common and a relationship between their offspring would have just cemented that belief.

I would have liked a Jake/Ziyal romance, Jake was really underused and this could have given him a lot of material to work with.
He really didn't get than many stories to himself. Many that he had were about his friendship with Nog. I like Jake as a character, he was just an ordinary kid who happened to live in space (no annoying kid genius like a certain other teen).

Honestly I think Nog, Garak and Dukat all got more screen time than Jake.
It is really very obvious in S7. Jake doesn't get his own episode and is barely seen. I would have liked it if Nog and Garak had been promoted to the main cast for the final season.
 
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