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92nd Annual Academy Awards

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The nominees for the 2020 Oscars on Feb 9th have been released a few hours ago.
It looks kind like a repeat of #oscarssowhite.

We can have a discussion that doesn't centre around why you aren't watching. It's okay not to like or not watch the Oscars. Suffice it to say it's not everyone's jam.

If it is your jam, why not post your predictions?
Sometimes it's fun to choose who you think should win vs who will actually win.

Best Picture:

“Ford v Ferrari” (Fox)
“The Irishman” (Netflix)
“Jojo Rabbit” (Fox Searchlight)
“Joker” (Warner Bros.)
“Little Women” (Sony)
“Marriage Story” (Netflix)
“1917” (Universal)
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” (Sony)
“Parasite” (Neon)

Lead Actor:
Antonio Banderas, “Pain and Glory”
Leonardo DiCaprio, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Two Popes”

Lead Actress:
Cynthia Erivo, “Harriet”
Scarlett Johansson, “Marriage Story”
Saoirse Ronan, “Little Women”
Charlize Theron, “Bombshell”
Renee Zellweger, “Judy”

Supporting Actor:
Tom Hanks, “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”
Anthony Hopkins, “The Two Popes”
Al Pacino, “The Irishman”
Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”
Brad Pitt, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”

Supporting Actress:
Kathy Bates, “Richard Jewell”
Laura Dern, “Marriage Story”
Scarlett Johansson, “Jojo Rabbit”
Florence Pugh, “Little Women”
Margot Robbie, “Bombshell”

Director:
Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
Todd Phillips, “Joker”
Sam Mendes, “1917”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”

Animated Feature:
“How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World,” Dean DeBlois
“I Lost My Body,” Jeremy Clapin
“Klaus,” Sergio Pablos
“Missing Link,” Chris Butler
“Toy Story 4,” Josh Cooley

Animated Short:
“Dcera,” Daria Kashcheeva
“Hair Love,” Matthew A. Cherry
“Kitbull,” Rosana Sullivan
“Memorable,” Bruno Collet
“Sister,” Siqi Song

Adapted Screenplay:
“The Irishman,” Steven Zaillian
“Jojo Rabbit,” Taika Waititi
“Joker,” Todd Phillips, Scott Silver
“Little Women,” Greta Gerwig
“The Two Popes,” Anthony McCarten

Original Screenplay:
“Knives Out,” Rian Johnson
“Marriage Story,” Noah Baumbach
“1917,” Sam Mendes and Krysty Wilson-Cairns
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Quentin Tarantino
“Parasite,” Bong Joon-ho, Jin Won Han

Cinematography:
“The Irishman,” Rodrigo Prieto
“Joker,” Lawrence Sher
“The Lighthouse,” Jarin Blaschke
“1917,” Roger Deakins
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Robert Richardson

Best Documentary Feature:
“American Factory,” Julia Rieichert, Steven Bognar
“The Cave,” Feras Fayyad
“The Edge of Democracy,” Petra Costa
“For Sama,” Waad Al-Kateab, Edward Watts
“Honeyland,” Tamara Kotevska, Ljubo Stefanov

Best Documentary Short Subject:
“In the Absence,” Yi Seung-Jun and Gary Byung-Seok Kam
“Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone,” Carol Dysinger
“Life Overtakes Me,” Kristine Samuelson and John Haptas
“St. Louis Superman,” Smriti Mundhra and Sami Khan
“Walk Run Cha-Cha,” Laura Nix

Best Live Action Short Film:
“Brotherhood,” Meryam Joobeur
“Nefta Football Club,” Yves Piat
“The Neighbors’ Window,” Marshall Curry
“Saria,” Bryan Buckley
“A Sister,” Delphine Girard

Best International Feature Film:
“Corpus Christi,” Jan Komasa
“Honeyland,” Tamara Kotevska, Ljubo Stefanov
“Les Miserables,” Ladj Ly
“Pain and Glory,” Pedro Almodovar
“Parasite,” Bong Joon Ho

Film Editing:
“Ford v Ferrari,” Michael McCusker, Andrew Buckland
“The Irishman,” Thelma Schoonmaker
“Jojo Rabbit,” Tom Eagles
“Joker,” Jeff Groth
“Parasite,” Jinmo Yang

Sound Editing:
“Ford v Ferrari,” Don Sylvester
“Joker,” Alan Robert Murray
“1917,” Oliver Tarney, Rachel Tate
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Wylie Stateman
“Star Wars: The Rise of SkyWalker,” Matthew Wood, David Acord

Sound Mixing:
“Ad Astra”
“Ford v Ferrari”
“Joker”
“1917”
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”

Production Design:
“The Irishman,” Bob Shaw and Regina Graves
“Jojo Rabbit,” Ra Vincent and Nora Sopkova
“1917,” Dennis Gassner and Lee Sandales
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Barbara Ling and Nancy Haigh
“Parasite,” Lee Ha-Jun and Cho Won Woo, Han Ga Ram, and Cho Hee

Original Score:
“Joker,” Hildur Guðnadóttir
“Little Women,” Alexandre Desplat
“Marriage Story,” Randy Newman
“1917,” Thomas Newman
“Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker,” John Williams

Original Song:
“I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away,” “Toy Story 4”
“I’m Gonna Love Me Again,” “Rocketman”
“I’m Standing With You,” “Breakthrough”
“Into the Unknown,” “Frozen 2”
“Stand Up,” “Harriet”

Makeup and Hair:
“Bombshell”
“Joker”
“Judy”
“Maleficent: Mistress of Evil”
“1917”

Costume Design:
”The Irishman,” Sandy Powell, Christopher Peterson
“Jojo Rabbit,” Mayes C. Rubeo
“Joker,” Mark Bridges
“Little Women,” Jacqueline Durran
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” Arianne Phillips

Visual Effects:
“Avengers Endgame”
“The Irishman”
“1917”
“The Lion King”
“Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker”
 
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I've seen Joker, The Rise of SkyWalker and Avengers Endgame.

I'd probably like to see How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, Toy Story 4 and 1917.

Accordingly I'd like to see awards go to these as long as it's only technical stuff for Skywalker.

I have absolutely zero interest in any of the rest, even the stuff I could watch on Netflix.
 
So, uh, no women were nominated for director. See I know people will be up in arms about it, despite the fact that maybe the best films and the best directing accomplishments just happened to be what they were..
 
Damn, this year is the 92nd Annual Academy awards. :brickwall:
I guess my chances at getting nominated for "most accurate poster" are shot now! :lol:

Weird, but probably true, Disney will be happy The Lion King didn't get a nomination for Best Animated Feature.

Really surprised there's no Frozen 2.

I've seen Joker, The Rise of SkyWalker and Avengers Endgame.

I'd probably like to see How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, Toy Story 4 and 1917.

Accordingly I'd like to see awards go to these as long as it's only technical stuff for Skywalker.

I have absolutely zero interest in any of the rest, even the stuff I could watch on Netflix.

For what it's worth, I wasn't in the mood to see Toy Story 4 when I did, but when I was watching it I loved every second of it.
 
So, uh, no women were nominated for director. See I know people will be up in arms about it, despite the fact that maybe the best films and the best directing accomplishments just happened to be what they were..
Except, no. The Farewell, Little Women, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Hustlers, Honey Boy, Booksmart, Atlantics, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire, just to name a few, beg to differ. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion (such as I think The Irishman is overrated...enjoyable, but not a masterpiece), but to say outright there was no worthy competion is complete and utter horseshit.

It's also pretty bad how white the main categories continue to be and it's a really bad look how the only black nomination is for a woman playing a slave.

I'm particularly peeved about The Farewell got absolutely no love (Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress, Best International Film, at least...) considering it's one of my favorite films of the year. It's especially weird the film got nothing considering Awkwafina won the Golden Globe for Best Actress in a Comedy (which is a complete misclassification of the film, but at least she got recognized).

It seems to me the Oscars really love the hashtags #OscarsSoWhite and #OscarsSoMale.

Damn, this year is the 92nd Annual Academy awards. :brickwall:
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I'm astonished Little Women didn't get Gerwig an Oscar nomination. But then there were several omissions, Jlo for Hustlers, Awkifina for the The Farewell, and even on the white male front, given everything I've heard I'm surprised Sandler didn't get a nod for Uncut Gems. Even critics who usually hate Sandler have been very impressed.
 
Yeah, I'm also baffled Gerwig didn't get a Best Director nod (at least she got one for Best Adapted Screenplay, but still...). Florence Pugh, while responding to her own nomination, expressed her great disappointment, too, wisely pointing out that the film (and her own performance) would not be nearly as great without her direction.
 
Well, this year has been packed with movies deserving of nominations, so of course there were to be snubs. I personally notice that Dolemite didn't get a single nomination.
 
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Yeah, that was a good film, although I didn't expect anything for it other than Best Actor for Murphy and maybe a long shot for Best Picture, but only because of the ten possible slots. Only nine were used this time...
 
I'm particularly peeved about The Farewell got absolutely no love (Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress, Best International Film, at least...) considering it's one of my favorite films of the year. It's especially weird the film got nothing considering Awkwafina won the Golden Globe for Best Actress in a Comedy (which is a complete misclassification of the film, but at least she got recognized).
The NPR show Here & Now did a series of pieces in the last weeks of 2019 reflecting on a decade of various things, and the language rules for nominations came up in their segment on Hollywood. From the highlights:
On “The Farewell” not qualifying for best film at this year’s Golden Globes

“I find the discussion around language and how it plays into what is a foreign language film, what is an American film, really fascinating. I think ‘The Farewell’ director, Lulu Wang, has been very clear that her story is an American story. It's just that America isn't all white and all English speaking, and I think her film shows that. It shows a woman who is American, a Chinese American woman, who goes back to China to be with her ailing grandmother. And obviously, when she's with her family, she's speaking Mandarin. And when she's, you know, outside of that, she's speaking English just like a lot of us. You know, [like] people who are straddling two cultures do.”

On the rules around language in nominating films for awards

“There are rules around this for the Golden Globes best drama and then the best musical comedy categories, which is kind of their best picture prize, but divided into those two genres. They don't permit any films with more than 50% of the dialog in non-English language. Those films automatically go into the foreign language race. So ‘The Farewell’ is in the Golden Globes foreign language race, as is Bong Joon-ho's ‘Parasite,’ which is fully in Korean. And this happened as well last year with ‘Roma.’ So we've had this discussion increase, I think this year with the Oscars disqualifying Nigeria's official entry, a movie called ‘Lionheart,’ which is in the English language because Nigeria's official language is English. And so it really stoked a conversation around was that fair? This is a movie made by Nigerian filmmakers in Nigeria. So why could it not qualify in the international feature film category, which is now the new name for The Academy's foreign language category?

“The Academy is sticking to its rules that any film with, I believe, the majority dialog in a non-English language is foreign language. And so that does apply for many films. But then in the case of ‘Lionheart,’ that's definitely created some problems because I believe only about 11 minutes of that film is in the non-English language, so therefore, it didn't qualify.”
Source: NPR's Here & Now

Obviously the rules aren't the same with the Oscars, since Parasite got a Best Picture nod (though historically those nods have been few, and none have won), but the rules for what qualifies and what doesn't are kind of fascinating in their byzantine absurdity.
 
Except, no. The Farewell, Little Women, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, Hustlers, Honey Boy, Booksmart, Atlantics, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire, just to name a few, beg to differ. Of course, it's all a matter of opinion (such as I think The Irishman is overrated...enjoyable, but not a masterpiece), but to say outright there was no worthy completion is complete and utter horseshit.

It's also pretty bad how white the main categories continue to be and it's a really bad look how the only black nomination is for a woman playing a slave.

I'm particularly peeved about The Farewell got absolutely no love (Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress, Best International Film, at least...) considering it's one of my favorite films of the year. It's especially weird the film got nothing considering Awkwafina won the Golden Globe for Best Actress in a Comedy (which is a complete misclassification of the film, but at least she got recognized).

It seems to me the Oscars really love the hashtags #OscarsSoWhite and #OscarsSoMale.


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I was being ironic and facetious with my comment. It's hard to convey that in text, I admit. Of course some wonderful films this year and every year were made by women, including the ones you mentioned. My point: maybe some of those could have been nominated. I would be happy with that. But they weren't and I was pointing out that a lot of people are not going to happy about that. But there are five slots. Only five directing slots.. decided on by a group made of directors. If people called out the academy because of inequality to women (despite, as you mentioned, quite a few good films made by them which implies plenty of opportunity for women this past year) I personally think it's unfair to the academy, as Director is not a category like actor and actress that automatically considers gender.. with only five slots, they go with what they think is the best, at only 5.. and when the pitchforks come out , I hope people keep that in mind
 
I don't give a damn about any of this shit but I'm always interested in who wins 'Best' Picture.

I'm guessing 1917 or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
 
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When I saw Jojo Rabbit back in November, I came out of the theater hoping it would win all the awards.

Too bad it didn't get more nominations.

Best Picture
Ford v Ferrari
Jojo Rabbit

Supporting Actor
Tom Hanks, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood

Supporting Actress
Scarlett Johansson, Jojo Rabbit

Animated Feature
Missing Link

Adapted Screenplay
Jojo Rabbit, Taika Waititi

Original Screenplay
Knives Out, Rian Johnson

Costume Design
Jojo Rabbit, Mayes C Rubeo

Visual Effects
Avengers Endgame

I haven't watched the Oscars in years, because of my work schedule, but I still like to see movies I like win stuff.
 
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The NPR show Here & Now did a series of pieces in the last weeks of 2019 reflecting on a decade of various things, and the language rules for nominations came up in their segment on Hollywood. From the highlights:

Source: NPR's Here & Now

Obviously the rules aren't the same with the Oscars, since Parasite got a Best Picture nod (though historically those nods have been few, and none have won), but the rules for what qualifies and what doesn't are kind of fascinating in their byzantine absurdity.
Yeah, the rules are frustrating in that regard and I knew that was going to be an issue going in. But Parasite got nominations in both categories (will undoubtedly follow Roma's lead by getting the Best International Film) and they left one slot open in Best Picture.
 
I haven't seen all the movies but I really don't think race or gender played any role in the selections this year. If anything I think they would want to find diversity in order to look good. I think it's pretty well known though this is very good year for movies. Some years it's hard to find movies that are deserving and then this year you have snubs who would be picked in other years. At some point the discussion might want to come up as to how well this movie year holds up to 1994,1999 and 1982.



Jason
 
At the end of the day like any award the Oscar is a popularity contest rather than an objective appraisal of how good a film is. If, for example, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wins best picture, is that because they objectively think it's the best film, or because Hollywood tends to love films about Hollywood--especially ones that portray tinsel town in a somewhat idealised light?
 
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