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Spoilers 4400 (The CW remake) Discussion Thread

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I haven't seen a thread about The CW's remake of The 4400, which drops the definite article from the title. Anyone else watching it? I'm rather enjoying it. It's intriguing the way it takes the general premise of the series -- 4400 people who vanished at various times in the past are all returned at once, not having aged a day, and discover they've been given superpowers for some mysterious reason -- but reinterprets it with totally new characters and goes in its own direction. It's the same sort of thing The CW did with its Charmed remake.

And it's basically taking the opportunity to emphasize elements that were lacking in the original series. Most obviously is that the original series had an overwhelmingly white main cast (aside from Mahershala Ali in seasons 1-3 and Megalyn Echikunwoke in seasons 3-4), while the new series has an overwhelmingly black cast, along with other diverse individuals (trans, disabled, etc.). There's an implication that the 4400 all belong to marginalized groups of one sort or another, which might have some bearing on why they were taken, but it hasn't been directly addressed yet.

But it's also correcting something else that I thought was a major mistake the first time around. The original show really glossed over the adjustment of the 4400 to being thrust into the future, just skipping over most of their initial internment and orientation and then moving on to focus mainly on the mystery of their abduction and their superpowers. But this version has focused heavily on that early process of adjustment and the 4400s' reactions to being thrust years or decades into the future. It's the version of the story I always wanted to see.

So far, my favorite character is Andre, a charmingly formal and erudite physician from the 1920s Harlem Renaissance. TL Thompson is well-cast, actually looking like he belongs in a 1920s photograph, and he makes Andre very sympathetic, kind, and appealingly nerdy. I'm also quite fond of LaDonna (Khailah Johnson), an incredibly gorgeous reality-TV star who's much more intelligent than she appears. Interesting that my two favorites are the earliest and latest abductees of the core group. As for the nominal lead character, Shanice (Brittany Adebumola), I actually find her to be the least interesting member of the 4400s.

Has anyone else been watching this? If you want to catch up, all the episodes are currently still available on The CW's streaming site.
 
I'll be honest, I had no idea this was even a thing. Or, if I did, I'd completely forgotten about it, as I've almost abandoned paying any attention to what's going on with "regular" TV.

I watched the original every week when it was on, but never felt any reason to revisit it beyond reading Greg's book, which was like 10-12 years ago.

I really don't remember all that much about it except that it had Peter Coyote sometimes and that one guy with the long name. Mahershala, I think. Wonder what happened to him.
 
I'll be honest, I had no idea this was even a thing. Or, if I did, I'd completely forgotten about it, as I've almost abandoned paying any attention to what's going on with "regular" TV.

I overlooked it myself at first; I knew it was coming, but by the time I realized it had already premiered, they were up to episode 5. Thank goodness streaming sites keep a backlog of episodes up.


I really don't remember all that much about it except that it had Peter Coyote sometimes and that one guy with the long name. Mahershala, I think. Wonder what happened to him.

Back then he went by his full name, Mahershalalhashbaz Ali.

By the way, one of the lead actors on the remake is Joseph David-Jones, who played the future version of John Diggle Jr., aka Connor Hawke, in the last couple of seasons of Arrow. He's the only cast member I was previously familiar with.
 
Watched the last episode of season one.

Dreadful.

There's a bloke there called Jor-El.

Do you have any idea how distracting that is?

They don't admit the archetects of this mess are from the future, until the last seconds of the last episode.

I did like some of the character pieces that weren't pawing allegories for racial oppression. They laid that on thick.

I thought the WWI doctor was going to discover that he was trans, and then transition during the rest of the series. I was very wrong about that.

Sigh.
 
^His name is Jharrel. It's not distracting at all.

Also, the season finale is next week.
 
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Anyone else catch the finale? I'm still laughing at the giant dancing iguana illusion. Not only a wild and creative idea, but in the grand tradition of standing up to hate groups with mockery. They take their absurd and idiotic fears so seriously that they don't know how to cope with it. (I'd think the whole bit about people fearing the 4400 were iguana people was implausible if it weren't for the real-life conspiracy theory about the government being taken over by lizard people. And the past few years have shown that there's no bottom to the idiocy of conspiracy theorists.)

So we finally find out who sent the 4400 and why, and it's much the same as the original explanation, that it was an attempt of scientists in a dystopian future to change history for the better. But it was adapted to fit this show's social commentary, in that it was the establishment's attempt to make incremental change without any sacrifice for those in power, so it didn't go nearly far enough. And apparently it's the latest of multiple trials, so some version of these events has played out many times before. Though I don't think that allows for the original series being an earlier iteration, since they established here that earlier trials used fewer than 4400 people, and the origin of the time technology is different.

I wasn't convinced by Jessica's turn away from the dark side in the finale. She's been so consistently cold and oppressive throughout, treating the 4400 purely as threats rather than human beings, to the point that I really despised her. So it's hard to believe that she was merely misguided. It seemed contrived to give her a happy ending with Keisha.

So Rev, Logan, and Manny were all taken to the future by the green light, but only Manny came back, albeit taken from earlier in the timeline so he has no memory of anything since his original abduction. I'd expected them all to be returned intact by the end of the finale, but I guess it remains to be seen what will happen to them. I'd be surprised if they didn't return next season (presuming there is a next season), at least Rev, since they built him into a pretty complex, flawed but redeemable character, and it would be a shame to waste that.
 
Manny is short for Superman.

Yes, I found episode 13 as it aired.

Thank you.

There's no indication, that anyone beyond that table were bankrolling the project, especially since their original backers were from 40 timeliness ago, and the universe rewrites itself for everyone else not involved in the project, everytime they use their machine.

They'd also have to take steps to make sure that no one else invented Timetravel, and began running a competing machine, so they would have had to have kidnapped or murdered their younger selves and any corperation/governnent willing to pay for someone else to invent time travel.
 
Unfortunately, The CW announced the cancellation of this show today, along with five others. I guess the cliffhanger will never be resolved -- since I doubt we'll get tie-in novels to resolve it this time around.

It's a shame -- this was a fairly good show.
 
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