Discussion in 'Sports and Fitness' started by Jax, May 8, 2014.
You do that and win, you ego can be the size of the Netherlands for all I care.
Yeah, whatever the goalies strengths, the sub is still going on stone cold at the crucial point...
In other news I thought Daniel van Buyten's post-match interview was really interesting. He said his own side was too inexperienced to make it. And he said he hopes none of the players will travel home thinking he didn't give everything he could.
Van Buyten also thought that Argentina lacked structure and didn't seem at their best fitness.
Quote: "If Argentina were to face Germany I'd bet everything I have on Germany."
Sure, but then, that's because number one goalies tend to be the best of their team at penalties, no subbing needed.
Why? Few seconds away from the shootout, one sub left. There's nothing at risk here that wasn't already.
Also, imagine the psychological effect this sub must have had on CR. It's like Jens Lehmann's famous paper notes in 2006.
As I said, to replace a goalie playing well with another that's stone cold ?
That is a massive call, however you look at it.
No it's only logical. You gonna get into a penalty shootout, you'll want your best keeper for penalties on the field. If that's your second goalie, then so be it.
He'd saved two of his last twenty penalties.
Well, that's what he is known for...
Whatever the case, the game was dull beyond all belief until about the 80th minute when both sides seemed to suddenly decide they'd better have a go. Disappointing for Costa Rica but it was great to see them get so far; here's hoping a Cameroon-style implosion doesn't follow. The Argentina-Belgium game wasn't much to watch either, which I suppose is only to be expected at the pointy end of a World Cup.
So we're left with Argentina (deifies a cheat but has Messi), Holland (grubs like de Jong and Robben), Germany (err...yeah) and Brazil (Neymar-less and not a patch on past sides). I'm not sure which I find the least of the evils in that lot.
As I said when England went out, I'm supporting Holland, but think Germany will do it.
As long as Argentina don't win it'll be O.K.
Yeah as was pointed out, if he was making a change based on previous penalty form he'd have put Vorm on, a man who has the nickname "Penalty Killer).
Krul was taller with a better reach, and also left footed which probably helped given several of the CR penalty takers were left sided too.
Ballsy decision really. He certainly doesn't lack cojones.
I guess I don't really care who wins, so long as it isn't Argentina
I'd prefer Holland to win it, if only because they never have. Germany winning would be annoying but they are a good solid team. Brazil are just too ordinary, and I can't help feeling they've had a lot of preferential refereeing from day one. Ironic that the ref letting them get away with stuff on Friday probably indirectly led to Neymar getting injured.
Germany/ Holland final?
I still want Brazil to win, and I certainly want Germany to lose. Netherlands finally winning the Cup would be weird, as this team isn't nearly as special as other teams in the past that failed.
Because of "Las Malvinas Son Argentinas"?
(trying to imitate the voice of the Emperor in ROJ)
Without Neymar and Thiago Silva Brazil is going to find this rather difficult on Tuesday.
On the positive side: Should Brazil not be able to defeat Germany on Tuesday, they have a good excuse, IMHO.
Good God no, they can have the bloody islands for all I care.
No, it's something far more sinister and much more important :
Never forgive. Never forget...
Hence my remark above about Argentina deifying a cheat.
...eh, I'd still like to see Brazil win it...but with reservations.
Yeah, Scholl was completely right and he was indeed speaking from experience. I remember quite a few games where his opponents were quite literally attacking him constantly to demoralize and intimidate him.
I feel very sorry for Neymar, it's true that he's still young but a chance to play in the World Cup in your own country comes once in a lifetime.
The thing is (and this is direct from fans mouths), they think cheating is both clever and admirable. It's using all the tools available and is how they think the game should be played. They consider nations trying to 'play fair' foolish.
It's not just the Argentinians either - most South American fans think that way, and it's spread (and spreading) elsewhere.
Ah, the 'Beautiful Game'...
So my wife and I spent the holiday weekend up at a friend's house. He's a big soccer fan, and he let me know that Saturday would be spent watching two games. I have never watched a soccer game in my life.
The Argentina/Belgium game wasn't too bad. I liked the guy with the giant digital watch on the sidelines...
The Costa Rica/Netherlands game was...well, not so great. I ended up taking a nap in the second half, and woke up during the extra period where it was still 0-0. The shootout was pretty cool.
I certainly have a better appreciation of how physical and strenuous the game can be. I don't think I'll become a soccer fan because of the experience, but hey...I gave it a fair hearing, and it wasn't as bad as I feared.
Enjoy the rest of the tournament!
^^ But that tells me you never watched a "soccer" game with a normal goal during the first 90 minutes.
Something to look forward to in the future, I'd recommend.
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