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2 Trailer Observations/Oddities

PLAESE correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read a trekmovie interview with J.J.Abrams where he said that the KELVIN was responding to a Klingon distress call! I also remember in that same interview that Orci or Abrams said that by the time the distress call gets to the Kelvin, the NARADA had already destroyed 47 Klingon Battlecruisers! the reason I bring this up now is because I'm wondering if those 800 lives may have been Klingon? Also I thought it odd that they would specifically say ''47'' Klingon ships.

THAT might cause a pretty big change in the timeline!
 
PLAESE correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read a trekmovie interview with J.J.Abrams where he said that the KELVIN was responding to a Klingon distress call! I also remember in that same interview that Orci or Abrams said that by the time the distress call gets to the Kelvin, the NARADA had already destroyed 47 Klingon Battlecruisers! the reason I bring this up now is because I'm wondering if those 800 lives may have been Klingon? Also I thought it odd that they would specifically say ''47'' Klingon ships.

The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
As for the oddity of 47...well 47 is a recurring number in all of Trek.

Maybe someone else remembers more on this or has some links.
 
The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
No... I'm pretty sure Kirk brings up the incident to Pike when he runs onto the bridge from sickbay after Bones sneaks him on the Enterprise. It happened around the time of the attack on the Kelvin.

My theory is that Nero escapes from a Klingon prison in the 24th century, breaks the Narada out of the Klingon impound, and does a slingshot manaeuver back in time over 100 years. When he arrives, he's still in Klingon space, and the alarmed Klingons send a fleet to intercept this gigantic intruder. Big mistake for them.
 
PLAESE correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read a trekmovie interview with J.J.Abrams where he said that the KELVIN was responding to a Klingon distress call! I also remember in that same interview that Orci or Abrams said that by the time the distress call gets to the Kelvin, the NARADA had already destroyed 47 Klingon Battlecruisers! the reason I bring this up now is because I'm wondering if those 800 lives may have been Klingon? Also I thought it odd that they would specifically say ''47'' Klingon ships.

The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
As for the oddity of 47...well 47 is a recurring number in all of Trek.

Maybe someone else remembers more on this or has some links.
Yes ''PLEASE'' somebody put up a link if you have it! And I didn't think about the 47 Klingon ships being''24''Century klingon ships! But then woulden,t the NARADA be ''too'' powerful then? I mean how would the ENTERPRISE defeet something that could wipe-out 47 ''24'' Century Klingon vessels?
 
The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
No... I'm pretty sure Kirk brings up the incident to Pike when he runs onto the bridge from sickbay after Bones sneaks him on the Enterprise. It happened around the time of the attack on the Kelvin.

My theory is that Nero escapes from a Klingon prison in the 24th century, breaks the Narada out of the Klingon impound, and does a slingshot manaeuver back in time over 100 years. When he arrives, he's still in Klingon space, and the alarmed Klingons send a fleet to intercept this gigantic intruder. Big mistake for them.
That seams the most likely scenerio!:vulcan:
 
The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
No... I'm pretty sure Kirk brings up the incident to Pike when he runs onto the bridge from sickbay after Bones sneaks him on the Enterprise. It happened around the time of the attack on the Kelvin.

My theory is that Nero escapes from a Klingon prison in the 24th century, breaks the Narada out of the Klingon impound, and does a slingshot manaeuver back in time over 100 years. When he arrives, he's still in Klingon space, and the alarmed Klingons send a fleet to intercept this gigantic intruder. Big mistake for them.
That seams the most likely scenerio!:vulcan:

Yes looks like it.I was mistaken about the 24th century thing.

This is what I found :

"Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.”
Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin.
He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”
 
No... I'm pretty sure Kirk brings up the incident to Pike when he runs onto the bridge from sickbay after Bones sneaks him on the Enterprise. It happened around the time of the attack on the Kelvin.

My theory is that Nero escapes from a Klingon prison in the 24th century, breaks the Narada out of the Klingon impound, and does a slingshot manaeuver back in time over 100 years. When he arrives, he's still in Klingon space, and the alarmed Klingons send a fleet to intercept this gigantic intruder. Big mistake for them.
That seams the most likely scenerio!:vulcan:

Yes looks like it.I was mistaken about the 24th century thing.

This is what I found :

"Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.”
Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin.
He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”
WOW!:eek: you saw the movie already?:eek:
 
That seams the most likely scenerio!:vulcan:

Yes looks like it.I was mistaken about the 24th century thing.

This is what I found :

"Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.”
Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin.
He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”
WOW!:eek: you saw the movie already?:eek:

No. This is from media reports on the 4 clips from the movie that Abrams showed a few months ago.
 
That seams the most likely scenerio!:vulcan:

Yes looks like it.I was mistaken about the 24th century thing.

This is what I found :

"Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.”
Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin.
He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”
WOW!:eek: you saw the movie already?:eek:
Its from the 25 minutes of footage that was screened for VIPs a few months back. There were all kinds of reviews and reports floating around.
 
I think I just figuerd out what the sequel is going to be about! We know that after the Narada attack on the Kelvin, starfleet makes great leeps in technology with the Nu Ent, don't you think since the Klingons took an even 'BIGGER' lose (47 Battleships) That the Klingons would also make great 'leeps' in tech so there not HUMILIATED in battle again? The sequal may be about a new arms race Between the 'Feds' and the 'EMPIRE'.
 
PLAESE correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read a trekmovie interview with J.J.Abrams where he said that the KELVIN was responding to a Klingon distress call! I also remember in that same interview that Orci or Abrams said that by the time the distress call gets to the Kelvin, the NARADA had already destroyed 47 Klingon Battlecruisers! the reason I bring this up now is because I'm wondering if those 800 lives may have been Klingon? Also I thought it odd that they would specifically say ''47'' Klingon ships.

The 47 Klingon ships destroyed is true but I assumed the Narada destroys these back in the 24th century during Nero's escape from the Klingon prison.
As for the oddity of 47...well 47 is a recurring number in all of Trek.

Maybe someone else remembers more on this or has some links.
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The fate of both the USS Kelvin and James T. Kirk's parents was explained. "The USS Kelvin, the ship upon which Kirk's parents serve. It (and they) meet a sticky end at the beginning of the film at the hands of Nero." The fate of the USS Kelvin is not surprising when Abrams reveals that "We know from the preview footage that [Nero's shadowy vessel] manages to take down forty-seven Klingon Warbirds single-handedly."
I'll try to find it, but there was an earlier article in which it was said that the Kelvin arrives on the scene during or just after the Klingon ships are trashed.

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Cut to: Exasperated, Kirk runs onto the bridge and shouts that they need to stop the ship as it’s a trap. “Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster, it’s being attacked by Romulans.” Pike all but has him dragged off the bridge and Spock’s instant animosity (it almost comes to blows between the two) indicates that, at this point at least, these two do not get on at all. Kirk ultimately breaks through though and explains that the same anomaly was spotted years before on the day of his birth, before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin. He goes on to say that the night before, 47 (yes forty seven!) Klingon Warbirds were destroyed by a single Romulan vessel. Uhura backs Kirk up and Pike gives the order: “shields up, red alert!”
 
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The significance of destroying 47 Klingon vessels along with the Kelvin should not be forgotten. The entire event is what must have really altered the timeline beyond total repair. Kirk's future was just one victim of it. Nero screwed things up far beyond Kirk not having gone to Starfleet Academy when he was "supposed" to have. In fact, in seems that Kirk going to the academy wasn't even something old Spock had to put right. Pike convinced him to go.

I also doubt the 800 lives saved were all on the Kelvin. Considering the Kelvin took casualties, it would mean she had even more than 800 souls on board to begin with. It seems far more likely that the 800 saved were folks scattered across several ships. That is, the Kelvin and any remaining Klingon vessels that managed to escape thanks to the Kelvin's intervention.
 
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