15 minutes in the spotlight (and then...)

[alpha_leonis]

Today I rewatched ST6:TUC. I make a habit with every movie to watch through the credits when I can... and this time I noticed the the name of Todd Bryant playing the Klingon translator during the trial scene. His name was familiar, so I looked him up: he'd previously played Captain Klaa in TFF (and before that, the red-haired cadet next to Peter Preston during Kirk's inspection in TWOK.)

What a step down! From a major character in the opening credits, to a bit part so tiny he could have been cut, for all he wasn't noticed.

Has that ever happened in any other Trek movies or shows? I recall that David Warner guested in the same two movies-- starting with a crappy role he was better than in TFF, so they gave him a meatier role the next time around.

Other iconic Trek actors like Mark Lenard and William Campbell were so good in their first appearance that when they came back, the second character they played was at least as iconic, if not more.

Todd Bryant must have received the short end of the stick.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

Phil Morris starred as one of the children in "Miri" before playing Ensign Foster in TSFS (the junior officer who asks Kirk about a reception for the crew) and a Jem'Hadar in DS9's "Rocks and Shoals."

--Sran

 

[1001001]

Phil Morris starred as one of the children in "Miri" before playing Ensign Foster in TSFS (the junior officer who asks Kirk about a reception for the crew) and a Jem'Hadar in DS9's "Rocks and Shoals."

--Sran

He had a pretty big role in Voyager's One Small Step.

 

[Captain Clark Terrell]

He had a pretty big role in Voyager's One Small Step.

I completely forgot about that! I had a nagging feeling that he'd been in something else but couldn't place it. Thanks!

--Sran

 

[The Wormhole]

Other iconic Trek actors like Mark Lenard and William Campbell were so good in their first appearance that when they came back, the second character they played was at least as iconic, if not more.

Although, Mark Lenard did later play the nameless Klingon commander in TMP.

 

[bbailey861]

Today I rewatched ST6:TUC. I make a habit with every movie to watch through the credits when I can... and this time I noticed the the name of Todd Bryant playing the Klingon translator during the trial scene. His name was familiar, so I looked him up: he'd previously played Captain Klaa in TFF (and before that, the red-haired cadet next to Peter Preston during Kirk's inspection in TWOK.)

What a step down! From a major character in the opening credits, to a bit part so tiny he could have been cut, for all he wasn't noticed.

Has that ever happened in any other Trek movies or shows? I recall that David Warner guested in the same two movies-- starting with a crappy role he was better than in TFF, so they gave him a meatier role the next time around.

Other iconic Trek actors like Mark Lenard and William Campbell were so good in their first appearance that when they came back, the second character they played was at least as iconic, if not more.

Todd Bryant must have received the short end of the stick.

I hardly think so; take a look at his IMDb credits. He started out at 12 doing stunts and has been in the business ever since. Between his stunt credits (119 so far), of which all of the more recent are a stunt co-ordinator, and his acting credits (37 so far), he appears to be doing great. If there is any reason for the acting work going from a main role to bit parts, it's likely because he much prefers the stunt work.

 

[The Toddler]

I always wondered if Klaa got demoted to translator after the disgrace he suffered in Star Trek V.

 

[Kor]

^ The old "Star Trek Encyclopedia" hinted that it was the same character.

But that's not "cannnon."

Kor

 

[Cyke101]

^ The old "Star Trek Encyclopedia" hinted that it was the same character.

But that's not "cannnon."

Kor

Yeah, I'd like to think that was the case; but you're right, there really is nothing to quite back that up, nor anything in the movie to imply that connection.

It'd be funny on some level, because that would mean that other than our heroes and the E-A, Klaa would be the only thing that made the transition from the movie that Trek was trying to distance from in the first place. Even the bridge was given a visual makeover!

 

[The Wormhole]

^ The old "Star Trek Encyclopedia" hinted that it was the same character.

But that's not "cannnon."

Kor

Yeah, I'd like to think that was the case; but you're right, there really is nothing to quite back that up, nor anything in the movie to imply that connection.

It'd be funny on some level, because that would mean that other than our heroes and the E-A, Klaa would be the only thing that made the transition from the movie that Trek was trying to distance from in the first place. Even the bridge was given a visual makeover!

And the corridors, which have a more utilitarian look in TUC while in TFF they were just the TNG corridors.

 

[The Toddler]

^ The old "Star Trek Encyclopedia" hinted that it was the same character.

But that's not "cannnon."

Kor

Yeah, I'd like to think that was the case; but you're right, there really is nothing to quite back that up, nor anything in the movie to imply that connection.

It'd be funny on some level, because that would mean that other than our heroes and the E-A, Klaa would be the only thing that made the transition from the movie that Trek was trying to distance from in the first place. Even the bridge was given a visual makeover!

And the corridors, which have a more utilitarian look in TUC while in TFF they were just the TNG corridors.

Was the transporter room setup the same? It looks like they used the same control booth (as seen in I-III as well), although you only get a few glimpses of it in V.

Todd Bryant's voice is also different between the two characters.

 

[The Wormhole]

^^To be honest, I don't really remember the transporter room from TFF all that well. TUC was just the TNG set only with a transparent barrier around the console for some reason.