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10 Starship "Holy Grails"

So playing around with the saucer, for it to sorta match, it has to be the underside facing up, in a similar fashion to this image but in a more downward facing angle so the bottom is more prevalent: https://bid.juliensauctions.com/images/lot/7405/740534_l.jpg?ts=1728507904

The part that looks like a nacelle would need to be the top long piece that hangs down from the upper section of the saucer and is causing an optical illusion or somehow light reflecting off the bottom of the upper section. If we do this, some of the parts of the saucer match with the black areas of the BoBWII ship

The other and less likely probability would be in this angle and something is hanging under the saucer: https://bid.juliensauctions.com/images/lot/7405/740528_l.jpg?ts=1728507904
 
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If we go the D7 route for this image it needs to be something along this angle for this shot for the one directly under the saucer:

For this shot we need something along the lines of this (above the Kyushu) but slightly tilted more to the left:

Would you agree that its 2 separate angles or same angle?
 
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Soooo, funny enough researching this I found your post from 2018 and oddly enough we used exactly the same photo.

Was there a Klingon battlecruiser at Wolf 359?

So I've pretty much identified every single ship or piece of debris from the Wolf 359 graveyard, with one exception: the object above the Kyushu and to the right of the Chekov. Unfortunately in the video about the scene in the BoBW bluray special features, this ship is still unidentifiable...
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Yaroze86 said:
Soooo, funny enough researching this I found your post from 2018 and oddly enough we used exactly the same photo.

Was there a Klingon battlecruiser at Wolf 359?

So I've pretty much identified every single ship or piece of debris from the Wolf 359 graveyard, with one exception: the object above the Kyushu and to the right of the Chekov. Unfortunately in the video about the scene in the BoBW bluray special features, this ship is still unidentifiable...
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If you look at the beauty pass photo I posted in that thread, you can see the object a tiny bit better. I’ll leave it up to you whether you think it’s part of a Klingon battlecruiser or something else. It’s not the clearest pic, but it was the best screencap I could make.
 
Yaroze86 said:
{…} I was looking for the dark neck Galaxy models {…}
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Ah, a connoisseur of the "War Galaxy", the "Cobra Galaxy", or as I call it, the C-type Galaxy.

I would assume you've seen this:

forums.scifi-meshes.com

Captain Nikolayev’s Frontier

Hello, all… So, a while back in Rekkert’s thread, when he was doing my U.S.S. Frontier interiors, someone had asked just what the Frontier looked like.
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Ah, a connoisseur of the "War Galaxy", the "Cobra Galaxy", or as I call it, the C-type Galaxy.

I would assume you've seen this:

forums.scifi-meshes.com

Captain Nikolayev’s Frontier

Hello, all… So, a while back in Rekkert’s thread, when he was doing my U.S.S. Frontier interiors, someone had asked just what the Frontier looked like.
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I think the real reason why the neck is painted so dark is to hide the fact that there's a gap between the neck and the saucer, because the model kit isn't as seamless there as the studio model was. Not because they were trying to make it look more like the Sovereign.
 
I recall it was a rendering error with the texture map that had a different reflectivity setting than the rest of the mesh, but I can’t remember the details clearly. In any case, it was, as Bob Ross would say, a “happy accident”, as it gave a little extra character and flavor to an otherwise generally copy-pasted fleet. And “war paint” appeared on multiple Cali-class hulls in LDS, during the battle of the Texas-class drones, so it’s kind of become accidentally canon. :lol:
 
The shot of the Galaxies in that Twitter pic is of the Enterprise-D 1:1400 scale model kit. You can tell because of the raised nacelle detailing that the model kit had but that the studio model and CGI model did not. Actually, all of the Galaxies, Excelsiors and Mirandas in that pic were made from model kits.
 
That’s a complete different thing than what I originally heard about that shot. So you’re saying they intentionally painted the whole strong back from the aft torpedo launcher all the way up to the saucer landing bay? I believe there were also two of them, flying in formation, but you can’t see that clearly in that picture.
 
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That’s a complete different thing than what I originally heard about that shot. So you’re saying they intentionally painted the whole strong back from the aft torpedo launcher all the way up to the saucer landing bay? I believe there were also two of them, flying in formation, but you can’t see that clearly in that picture.
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Yeah, as I mentioned, the point of the paint seemed to be to hide the gap in the model kit where the saucer separates from the neck. And there was only one model; they just superimposed it three times in that shot. John Eaves built it, from what I understand.
 
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I think the real reason why the neck is painted so dark is to hide the fact that there's a gap between the neck and the saucer, because the model kit isn't as seamless there as the studio model was. Not because they were trying to make it look more like the Sovereign.
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I figured that's definitely the case in regards to the torpedo deck at the bottom of the neck that’s a pain to deal with and get the putty right, but it never dawned on me* that they would have painted the entire back of the neck and down the spine just to cover that little stardrive-to-saucer seam on the ERTL model.

Then again, running counter to that hypothesis, they actually did film the underside of that seam from the side and a bit below, and there's no dark paint there. The underside of the nacelles is also painted to appear dark on camera, which doesn't really serve to cover up anything either.

(* Wait, I'm senile. In that scifi-meshes thread I said: "I suspect the darkened neck is meant to further help cover up the gaps in the model at the saucer separation plane, which on the ERTL model could be pretty visible even on well-made models (especially if you focused on making the underside not-so-gappy)".

So, carry on.)
 
So, I am of the feeling that the one is sure a D7 possibly from an AMT Model Kit 6677. For the other one I am leaning towards a Bird of Prey from the AMT Model kit 6858.
 
Yaroze86 said:
So, I am of the feeling that the one is sure a D7 possibly from an AMT Model Kit 6677. For the other one I am leaning towards a Bird of Prey from the AMT Model kit 6858.
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What other one? The BoP model kit didn’t come out until 1996, so it didn’t exist yet during BoBW.
 
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The AMT 3 Piece Adversary Set 6858 came out in 1989 that included the BoP. Specifically this under the saucer. https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/...bothworldsii/08-thebestofbothworldsii-8-r.jpg
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Oh, ok, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant the Klingon BoP.

The object above the Kyushu and the object under the Enterprise’s saucer are the same object. The more I think about it, the more I think that this mystery object is one of the TMP Klingon 3-foot breakaway battlecruiser models you posted earlier, that was imploded.
 
DSG2k said:
Ah, a connoisseur of the "War Galaxy", the "Cobra Galaxy", or as I call it, the C-type Galaxy.

I would assume you've seen this:

forums.scifi-meshes.com

Captain Nikolayev’s Frontier

Hello, all… So, a while back in Rekkert’s thread, when he was doing my U.S.S. Frontier interiors, someone had asked just what the Frontier looked like.
forums.scifi-meshes.com forums.scifi-meshes.com

In case that disappears, I also had made a lengthy thread here:

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That is a nice alternative scheme
 
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