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Twilight Zone's premiere did better than Discovery's premiere, but AA had far less subscribers when Discovery premiered. Twilight Zone was on the weekly Parrot Analytics top 7 streaming shows once during its season. Discovery has been on the top 7 list for pretty much its entire season, and beyond.

Its more complicated than that. Did you see how "Active Consumption" is second in its hierarchy? I read PA even looks at how much a show is being pirated online.

Which includes CBS. https://deadline.com/2018/07/cbs-studios-international-partners-parrot-analytics-global-viewer-insights-1202432912/

What PA weighs highest to lowest (top to bottom): Creative Participation Active Consumption Deep Research Social Encouragement Public Posting Expressing an Opinion Subscribing to Updates Indicating Interest Passive Expressions

Not surprising at all. Discovery was #2 for the previous 30 days. https://www.businessinsider.com/top-drama-shows-on-netflix-orange-is-the-new-black-narcos-2019-4#2-star-trek-discovery-cbs-all-access-9

Yeah, fans try to come up with ways for it to make sense because it really doesn't. :lol:

Have you read the articles about the show? https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/patrick-stewart-wont-be-a-captain-on-the-picard-spinoff-series-says-jonathan-frakes https://deadline.com/2019/03/santiago-cabrera-michelle-hurdcast-star-trek-jean-luc-picard-series-cbs-all-access-1202569185/...

Spock was on Vulcan minding his own business, when V'Ger called to him. Just him. The Vulcan Kolinahr Master only sensed it when melding with Spock. It is a bizarre random connection that centers Spock, but you're giving it a free pass for...reasons.

I don't think the other characters will be Starfleet officers.

Show of hands--who here remembers the part where V'Ger calls out Spock while he's on Vulcan? Those other characters had their own stories too. They got more than a lot of other Trek characters.

The creator of the show says it is half-comedy, half-drama. Why is this idea so offensive to people in this thread? It's not a serious drama. So? Why is that bad?

MacFarlane himself says the show straddles comedy and drama. https://deadline.com/2019/04/the-orville-seth-macfarlane-star-trek-contenders-emmys-1202589906/

I wasn't even insulting the Orville...okay.

I'm talking about how the show is marketed, and how new Trek dramas can't do what it does. I aint yucking your yum.

It's marketed as a comedy. This is a comedy trailer. I've seen it also called a comedy-drama, which works too. It still isn't a serious drama. A serious, modern Trek drama couldn't get away with what the Orville gets away with.

Oh no. The Orville can get away with being a silly throwback with recycled plots because it's a comedy. Any new Trek drama would get lambasted for being stuck in the past.

Will we finally learn the Picard show's title?

Exactly. TOS had the room and the format to center episodes on other characters, but chose not to. People don't seem to mind though.

"Important" does not mean "central." The stories center Kirk and Spock. Looking at episode summaries, not even McCoy so much. How many episodes center him? Sulu becoming captain of the Excelsior is very much peripheral to the story of TUC.

Look at TOS' episode summaries. Kirk and Spock are central. The other characters are not. Where is the Uhura episode? What about Sulu?