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Why would they need to do that when they could just point out that Nielsen ratings are only a comparative to what else was going on at that period of time. What actually matters is how many minutes were watched, not where it compares to other things. And the total minutes watched are absolutely...

So basically you're saying it's just your gut feeling...

I specified the season finale of Discovery... And the numbers were on the Neilson streaming chart, 269m minutes from May 27th to June 2nd.

You're pretty sure it has according to what? Because none of the numbers we're getting supports that.

I know enough people in the industry to say with some certainty it's probably either that or the production being so full of "artistic vision" and yes people afraid to give an honest opinion that nobody who mattered even realized there was anything wrong with the movie in the first place. Or at...

170m minutes really isn't doing well. For comparisons sake, that's 100m minutes less then the season finale of Discovery at 4-8x times the production cost.

This^^ There's a lot to discuss about how a disaster like this ended up happening, because it takes a massive amount of production level failure. And that's especially important given the same people behind this failure are in part likely now producing Starfleet: Academy.

Production Probably: "It's Star Trek, people will watch and praise it no matter how bad it is." Jokes aside, these are the same people who thought the writing on Discovery was good, so of course they weren't able to see the problem with this.

That's significantly worse then I thought it would be... I bet a bunch of people are in some really hot water right now, because there's absolutely no way that made even a third of the production cost back.

It probable was, cut out the nacelle struts and I would have thought it was one of their ships.

It's odd that the map has Free Haven, a Bajoran Colony, but not Bajor itself. Also, stuff's a bit too close together, and Risa is missing.

That depends entirely on whether it lost money, and if so how much money it lost.

Generally reminder that Hollywood is extraordinarily disconnected from reality. The actual chain of events behind it would have been something like. Michelle Yeoh wins various Hollywood back patting awards that a significant portion of Hollywood believes are an accurate representation of...

Except... $80-90 million is actually a completely reasonable production cost for a streaming movie like Section 31... Back In Action, the number 1 movie on that list, had a production budget of $207 million dollars. (165 after UK filming reimbursement.)

Yes, but Network Executives want to do streaming. Michelle Yeoh's paycheck was $12 million dollars alone, so it's quite obvious Robert Kazinsky has no idea what he's talking about.

I really want to see the entire set of concept art now, because those have the hints of an actually interesting story in them.

That's really really bad. And the reason why it's bad is because it had a rumored budget of 80-90 million dollars. For that price you could have made a 10 episode season of Star Trek: Legacy, each 40-50 minute episode of which would have gotten comparable or greater numbers of minutes watched...

So you're saying it didn't bring you out of the story even a tiny bit?

It broke 5 out of 7.

Tell me how many of those rules The Inner Light broke?