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That would be one hell of a shocking moment though

Probably commanding the Farragut instead of the Enterprise made that timeline Kirk a little less bold. You'd have to rein in your instinct to do battle when the ship you're commanding isn't the biggest and best ship in the fleet. One could also argue that the Kirk we saw in TOS prior to Balance...

Kirk commanding the Farragut was 6-7 years into an alternate future. In the SNW present, he's probably only a lieutenant, right?

Future Pike already explained this. No matter what they do, it goes shitty. Maybe if Pike resigns it has some unforeseen negative consequences on Spock.

Man, that was pretty good! I don't get real "Captain Kirk" vibes from the actor, but that's fine. I feel like another straight-on rehash of the Shatner/Pine James Kirk would be tiresome. Do love the Pike/Kirk relationship and I would love to see that moving forward on the show, in a way that...

I don't typically cry at TV deaths because they're usually not all that well done. This one was, and it was earned. I really liked Hemmer. He had some of the best scenes on the show. I wonder if the writers knew he was so likeable before they killed him, or if it was precisely why they killed...

Incredible epsiode! Downright literary. I'm speechless. This ep should be up for a Hugo or something

I think there's something interesting with that. He says he is grappling with the possibility that his knowledge of the future will affect his decision making. But I wonder if the knowledge of what will happen to him a decade from now is making him re-evaluate his life. If I knew I only had 10...

I'm not saying there are undertones but in the original script Burke and Samno's quarters had a disco ball

wait until he figures out the ship's been powered by two giant phallic symbols all this time

You should probably find a new genre of television to watch then. I'm sure it should be easy to find something that caters to your non-wokeness, in this day and age.

Sometimes it felt like watching a video game, but the older I get the less I care about the scenery. If it's good storytelling then that's enough.

Somebody else said the show feels better than what this episode reflected and I agree with that. In part, because pilot episodes almost always feel a little "off" or different than what the show becomes once it hits its stride. I see that probably happening here. As long as they don't lean too...

I could not possibly care less whether's he's Irish, Asian or an intelligent giraffe. Do people really sit around worrying about this shit? Gee whiz Guess what, the ship doesn't look the same either. Who fucking cares?

This was delightful! Can't wait for next week!

They've also established that Stamets is not a "Starfleet guy." He's there for his art. Doesn't seem to fit his character at all.

I'm assuming Nilsson, for no other reason than she's been getting more and more face time lately.

No bloody A, B, C, or D!!

Not hard to imagine some knowledge and technology being lost with time when you don't have as large a pool of minds and resources to draw on. The music industry, for instance, is right now struggling to meet the demand for new vinyl records, both in terms of quantity and quality control because...

I mean, he did teach humanity about the Great River, that's gotta be worth something