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Was it? Its 300 metre size was based on the original size of the Connie, but Connie has now been retconned to 450ish metres, so it makes sense that ships with similar components such as Shanri La would be retconned to be larger as well.

My headcanon is that Titan A is a refit, but not a refit of the Luna class Titan as that makes zero sense. It is a refit of an unnamed ship, or perhaps even refit of the original Shangri La Titan if we want to be really cute. Also, Riker briefly commanded this Titan A after he wrecked Luna class...

Why people are assuming that the 23th century titan would be that small? Certainly that scaling is based on original Enterprise's 300ish metres, but that has now been retconned to 450ish metres, right? So certainly ships with similar parts from the same era could be assumed to be similarly...

Why can't it be both, and how are we supposed to know? Something being funny doesn't automatically mean that we're supposed to disregard it.

I loved the punk. But I was also confused by Guinan not remembering Picard, and I was hardly alone in this. And it was definitely party because the punk had primed me thinking that the past time travel events were valid. One can appreciate the bit being hella fun, and still see how the whole...

It's not that we cannot come up with reasons for his behaviour. But it is still crappy storytelling. The intent clearly is to remind us of Spock nerve pinching him, so then the viewer is primed to think in terms of previous time travel events being valid, and confused when Guinan doesn't...

But that would also wipe out the events that lead to restoring the timeline...

It's possible, but let's face it, this is cringey. It's like how in the reboot Trek they offered an 'explanation' to why a doctor was referred to as 'Bones,' even though much more obvious explanation already existed.

I definitely noticed that she's ripped and it looks good. I really hope we see this Guinan putting those muscles in good use and kicking some ass. As for the whole the recasting/feeling different thing, I generally dislike recasting, and yes, this Guinan feels different. I get that people might...

I fully agree, and that's exactly to me the context of EW and it's relation to human history is more important, and I don't mind if the exact date would be retconned.

Sure. But in tWoK, '23rd century' appears in caption and a bottle of Romulan ale bottled in 2283 is mentioned.

But you mentioned all the other contradiction you seemed to be fine with... So this is just crating one more. Why is is any more overwriting anything, than TOS movies establishing that the five-year mission took place in 2260s, thus 'overwriting' several things established in TOS (some of which...

Right. So then you have no reason to complain if they at some point show EW happening in 2060s.

Right. But you don't care about continuity. Because if nothing can be 'dismissed' regarding continuity, then the continuity cannot exist, because, indeed as you note, nothing is perfect and contradictions happen. And accepting that they do is not disrespecting the thoughts and work of the people...

Sure. But wouldn't such a reset of pre April 15th 2024 events also erase the actions of Picard & Co in that era, including them them righting the chances? :wtf:

Right. So you don't care about there being a continuity. I get it. But a lot of people care about it.

Continuity implies that some sort of vaguely logical sequence of events and history exists. This means that if there are contradictory elements, we must jettison something, or there is no continuity. Again: 1) WWIII was in the mid 21st century. 2) Eugenics Wars were the last human world war. 3)...

Right. So you think TOS happens in 2190s. Fair enough. This would mean original cast movies contradict it. And TNG contradicts it even more. If you don't care about the overall continuity, that's fine, but a lot of people do, and this discussion exists in context of the newest ongoing...

So how do you reconcile all the facts I presented? If canon shouldn't be ignored, how does that work? When you think TOS takes place? If it is in 2260s you either have to ignore that EW happens in 1990s or it happens 200 years ago.

If you assume that TOS takes place in 2190s, then I guess. :shrug:But if you don't care whether TOS is in continuity with TNG or even with the original cast movies, then ultimately it is pretty pointless to discuss the overall Trek continuity with you, as you don't care for such to exist.