World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

Oh I didn't mean inspired by Enterprise. I just found of all the things about Enterprise that were negative, the use of time travel left and right was by far the worst. My point was that this movie also is based on time travel - whether the inspiration was Yesterday's Enterprise, the Temporal Cold War, or Doc Brown and Marty McFly.

 

Yeah, but pointing to Enterprise and describing time travel as "the worst aspect" is somewhat misleading as regards this movie, considering how very popular their actual inspiration, "Yesterday's Enterprise," was. Or how popular "City On The Edge Of Forever" is. Or how popular Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home is. Or...

 

OK. Not to interrupt a very erudite series of posts, but I'll ask one more time, then stop so I'm not spamming. This is supposed to be a thread with spoilers. Someone out there lurking knows the answer to my question. I only want to know one thing: WHERE'S THE TRIBBLE? Thank you. Good night.

 

in addition, time travel is handles differently from every episode except Parallels

this is actually one of the few times they use time travel that doesn't stretch the limits of plausibiltiy.

 

don't know. i think i missed it. i think all the references to other shows are easter eggs... like the picard manoeuvre.

 

I believe it is in the bar.

 

One of the things that made Episode IV work so well in the epic Summer of 1977 were the stakes. The heroes were knocking over Stormtroopers like tenpins. But, and then there was a huge but, Grand Moff Tarkin had to demonstrate the power of the new battlestation against Alderaan.

No stakes, no reward for taking down the bad guy when he tries to destroy Earth.

 

Certainly, but surely Nero could have destroyed some other planet that is not so central to the Trek Universe. There's a big difference between destroying Alderaan, a planet which nobody had ever heard of until 5 minutes before it's demise, and Vulcan, a planet so iconic that even non-Trek fans know about it to at least some small degree.

The more I think about this, the more I honestly think I could get on board with seeing what Abrams does with this new timeline, but knocking off Vulcan is a huge, gigantic item which is very hard to get past.

 

I don't think Abrams was ambitious enough. Destroying Vulcan is all right but destroying Earth! Hoo-Baby! Not threatening to do it as in TMP, TVH, FC and NEM but actually destroying the fuckin' place! That's the way to up them stakes and show everybody that this ain't our daddy's Star Trek! The human adventure is ju-- OH FUCK!

 

Can someone who saw the movie PLEASE tell me how Kirk and Spock first meet in the new movie? What is their first encounter with each other?

 

That's why it's brilliant.

 

If you buy into what I consider to be the bane of modern entertainment, namely, the idea that to be entertaining you need to be shocking, edgy, or push the envelope in some way. People don't just tell good stories anymore. They always have to get some artificial kick by adding some sort of bombshell. Far from making a good story, it's just serves as an excuse to be lazy about the story, because the big kicker will make it good.

And oddly enough, the one criticism that is constant in all the reviews so far is that the story does seem a bit lazy.

 

Actually, only a couple of reviews remarked on that, while the rest was completely opposite.

 

I have a question: Does Nero know he's traveled back in time into a different universe than the one he started out in, or does he just not care that the people he's taking revenge on had nothing to do with the destruction of Romulus and that the people he blames are actually all just fine back in the original continuity?

 

Who is Cyrano Jones?
I saw his name in Star Trek World Premiere with Leonard Nimoy.
"Awasoruk Jam"
written and performed by Cyrano Jones
courtesy of Bad Robot Music and Video LLC

 

How big of a role does Leonard Nimoy have?

To those of you who have seen the film. How big of a role does Leonard Nimoy have?

Is he important to the story or is his part a glorified cameo? My guess is that he has a rather important role in the film and about 20 minutes screen time. Am I correct?

 

Re: How big of a role does Leonard Nimoy have?

We have a spoiler thread for questions like this.

 

Does the Federation Timeship Relativity (aka the 'USS Reset Button') swoop in at the end of the film and set everything back to the way it was before Nero goes back in time?

Just kidding, well sort of. One thing i've given up is overanalyzing the time travel plot of the film as was the case with First Contact which had logic holes the size of small moons yet was still a great ride of a film. Everything i've seen of Trek XI so far looks great and i definately get a "this is what it would be like if something like 'Yesterday's Enterprise' were done minus the reset button. And that, actually has me pretty excited as to the possibilities for the future.

p.s. Those who have seen the film already are lucky bastards and i hate you all...... just sayin