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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

The UK's Foreign Secretary Selwyn Lloyd, U.S. Ambassador Robert D. Murphy and French Foreign Affairs Minister Christian Pineau meet at 10 Downing Street to discuss the Suez Crisis.
Over tea.
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Died: Albert Woolson, 106, last surviving Union veteran of the American Civil War.
Man, that guy saw some changes.

Columbia Pictures releases its 57th and last film serial, Blazing the Overland Trail, starring Lee Roberts.
Interesting. I never heard of it.

"The Flying Saucer (Parts 1 & 2)," Buchanan & Goodman
These things amuse me more than they probably should. :rommie:

"Hound Dog," Elvis Presley
One of my favorite Elvis songs. Strong nostalgic value-- for the early 70s.

KUAM-TV becomes the first television station in Guam.
"Turn that thing off and go outside!"

Final telecast of the DuMont Television Network. The United States will not have a fourth major network until the launch of the Fox network in 1986.
Kind of a shame. We would have had even more old TV shows to talk about. :rommie:

U.S. baseball player Ted Williams spits at a mocking fan during a game.
I'm sure the obnoxious punk deserved it. :rommie:

"Rip It Up," Bill Haley & His Comets
I know this one. Pretty good 50s song.

"Let the Good Times Roll," Shirley & Lee
Ditto.

"Don't Be Cruel," Elvis Presley
Another Elvis goodie and early 70s nostalgia-- it was probably on the same 8-Track as "Hound Dog." :rommie:

Lakenheath-Bentwaters incident: Air bases in eastern England belonging to Britain's RAF and the U.S. Air Force experience a number of suspected UFO sightings.
"Did the UFOs send a message?"
"'Don't be cruel....'"

British swimmer Brenda Fisher swims Lake Ontario in a record time of 18 hours 51 minutes.
Good Grief. The only thing I've ever done that long is breathe.

Died: Bela Lugosi, 73, Hungarian actor best known for playing Dracula
RIP. Classic actor. He deserved a better career than he got.

I think so. It was the place that was freed by Portugal and immediately swarmed by their next-door neighbor.

It's interesting how the Vietnam aftermath lingers on. It wasn't on my radar as a little kid.
Yeah, it lingered for a while, especially for the people who served there.

I've never watched Metropolis, I probably should.
There was a new restoration fairly recently which included some previously lost footage, so now's a good time.

I didn't realize that the name properly referred to the bell rather than the tower, which is how it's usually referenced.
I kind of vaguely knew that.

It's an invasion from Earth!
There goes the neighborhood!

I was completely unfamiliar with this. It comes on what had been a "skip week" in my chronological playlists. Its sound is somewhat catchy.
It does have a good sound to it.
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Invaders
"The Pursued"
Originally aired March 19, 1968
Edited Frndly said:
David finds an unlikely and dangerous ally in alien Anne Gibbs, who kills on the slightest provocation.
I could recommend an up-and-coming shrink in Chicago....
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Anne enters the Sycamore Guest House desperate to know if David Vincent's checked in. When John Corwin (Gene Lyons when he's not commissioning Frisco) and his partner screech up, she hides in a closet, and the elder proprietress, Hattie Willis (Mary Jackson), catches on and covers for her. After they leave, Hattie insists on calling the sheriff against Anne's attempts to stop her, resulting in Anne putting a sewing needle into her...following which the young woman seems horrified at what she's done.

The QM Narrator said:
The Sycamore Guest House, Arbor City, Massachusetts--scene of a vicious, senseless killing. David Vincent had been summoned here by a woman he'd never met. Her name: Anne Gibbs. Her reason for calling him: She had been marked for death by creatures from an alien planet.

Hattie's husband and partner, former sheriff Hank Willis (Will Geer), butts heads with the current constable who's leading the investigation, Tom Halloway (Dana Elcar), about wanting in on the action. Corwin comes forward as a witness but gives a highly inaccurate description of the young woman, obviously meant to throw off CLE. David makes the scene, and when Hank takes a call for him from Anne, he recognizes her voice and eavesdrops as she arranges a rendezvous at a harborside antique shop. When David meets her, she wastes no time in revealing that she's one of them, going on to explain that she's a failed experiment in human emotions who goes into violent rages when angered. She admits to having killed Hattie, but offers to come forward with everything she knows about the invasion if David will help her evade her people, who are out to destroy her.

David calls you-know-who, who consults his file of contacts to come of with a summer camp in nearby Cape View run by a Charlie McKay, where David and Anne can hide out while waiting to be picked up by a chopper. While David's on the phone, Corwin's partner--who's tailed David there and reports in by FIND--sneaks up on Anne inside and grabs her, but David returns in time to intervene. Anne manages to hold back Partner long enough for David's stunt double to jump into action. The resulting brawl ends when a kick from David sends Partner into an axe head, which glows up with him. Hank, who's brought his old holster and sidearm, arrives in time to see Anne getting into David's car, which screeches off...all while the hip young store proprietor (Eldon Quick), who's been outside with a customer, remains comically unaware of the action.

Corwin arrives with two more of them and finds Hank's sidearm in his car. Inside, Hank learns where David and Anne were headed by making a $1.00 purchase when the proprietor fishes for a bribe. Corwin confronts Hank with the sidearm, and Hank raises him a false description. Corwin then flashes a Justice Department ID to learn about Cape View, and warns Hank not to interfere. On the drive to the camp, David tells Anne about how McKay, a geologist, did eighteen months for manslaughter following an accident in which his wife and the other driver were killed while the McKays were fleeing from aliens that they saw. This makes Anne not want to proceed, so she wrests the wheel from David and pulls over the car (which seems to be one of his weaknesses). As David tries to stop her from leaving the car, she goes into one of her rages, but outside her startling metamorphosis proves ineffectual against David's plot armor.

At the camp, while McKay's (Richard O'Brien) son, Eddie (Mike McGreevey)--reluctant to cooperate because his father could go back to jail for harboring a fugitive--shows David where to hide his car, the professor and Anne exchange words, which motivates her to leave. When McKay blocks the door, she Thems Out and beats him with a poker. David and Eddie rush back to the cabin like they could hear that, Eddie exiting in shock before David finds a pulse. Eddie rushes to City Hall trying to find the sheriff, which catches the interst of a loitering Corwin, who questions the boy and learns of the helicopter. Back in Arbor City, Sheriff Halloway shares the news from Eddie with Hank, who chastises his successor for not getting on it even though it's not his jurisdiction. At the cabin, David nurses Charlie onto Recovery Road, but Anne's the one who doesn't want to leave him to make the rendezvous, accusing David of being less human than she. They nevertheless proceed to the ballfield to catch the chopper just as Corwin & co. arrive and fire shots at it, which prove no match for David and Edgar's combined plot armor. Scoville jinxes the whole operation by enthusing about taking Anne to the Justice Department in Washington. It's the end of Act III, nothing can go wrong now!

After landing in Fairfax, Virginia, the party takes refuge in a house, where Scoville arranges for a company van to serve as a decoy the next morning while they slip away in a beat-up car...but a very recognizable paperthem blows the plan:
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They catch up with David & co. as the car pulls up to a parking garage. David exchanges fire with them, scoring a glow-up, while Scoville rushes inside for help. When Corwin shoots the gun out of David's hand, Anne starts to give herself up, but David fights back HTH and Anne ends up shooting Corwin just as Scoville arrives with a security guard to cover the door. While a very nervous Anne proceeds to the meeting room with David, Chekhov's Vigilante Widower pops out of a doorway and shoots her. She dramatically collapses into David's arms, but he knows enough to let go before she glows up in front of several gathered witnesses. As the officials they were about to see come out into the hall, David angrily enlists an astounded Hank to testify as to what he saw.

In the Epilog, the testimony of multiple witnesses is played as a consolation prize.

Scoville: It's a rotten shame. She could have ended this nightmare once and for all. She could have helped every one of us...the whole human race.​
David (nodding toward Hank): If he hadn't been so damned human.​

The QM Narrator said:
Eyewitness testimony to the presence of the invader, another piece in the mosaic. And soon the pictures that David Vincent sees there will be seen by all. Today, the road ahead seems not quite so steep.

Following the series, David takes a job with an architectural firm in a California suburb...unaware that his colleague Mike is secretly one of their leaders.

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Over tea.
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Jolly good, old chap.

Man, that guy saw some changes.
Taking an interest in the math behind his age, I had a look at his Wiki entry. He claimed to be a few years older, but his Army record gave a birth year of 1850, which would have made him 14 when he enlisted late in the war. He became a drummer boy in a company that didn't see any action. There's a quote from Ike about his passing.

These things amuse me more than they probably should. :rommie:
It's cute, and the original that started the whole series/trend.

One of my favorite Elvis songs. Strong nostalgic value-- for the early 70s.
The King has now risen to the height of his powers.

I'm sure the obnoxious punk deserved it. :rommie:
Ah, showing a little Red Sox pride?

I know this one. Pretty good 50s song.
Doesn't improve on the original, though.

A nice, recognizable number.

Another Elvis goodie and early 70s nostalgia-- it was probably on the same 8-Track as "Hound Dog." :rommie:
I also discovered the King in the '70s, because we had some original singles from this era that would have been my mom's.

"Did the UFOs send a message?"
"'Don't be cruel....'"
Outer Space Disc Jockeyed.

Good Grief. The only thing I've ever done that long is breathe.
:D

RIP. Classic actor. He deserved a better career than he got.
August 17: Bela gets thirsty.

I think so. It was the place that was freed by Portugal and immediately swarmed by their next-door neighbor.
Yeah, that'd be it.

Yeah, it lingered for a while, especially for the people who served there.
I was aware in the '80s, but by then it was more retro than recent.

There goes the neighborhood!
Spaceballed.
 
I could recommend an up-and-coming shrink in Chicago....
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Did we ever see Emily bleed?

former sheriff Hank Willis (Will Geer)
Grandpa Walton, ayuh.

When David meets her, she wastes no time in revealing that she's one of them, going on to explain that she's a failed experiment in human emotions who goes into violent rages when angered.
I wonder what the original purpose of the experiment was. It seems like it could only be counterproductive from Their point of view.

She admits to having killed Hattie, but offers to come forward with everything she knows about the invasion if David will help her evade her people, who are out to destroy her.
Wouldn't that have been the original reason for the meeting?

The resulting brawl ends when a kick from David sends Partner into an axe head, which glows up with him.
"You glow it, you bought it!"

all while the hip young store proprietor (Eldon Quick), who's been outside with a customer, remains comically unaware of the action.
That's weird. It's unusual for this show to have any intentional comic relief.

Hank learns where David and Anne were headed by making a $1.00 purchase when the proprietor fishes for a bribe.
Cheap date. :rommie:

Corwin confronts Hank with the sidearm
"You were supposed to sign this back in seventeen years ago!"

On the drive to the camp, David tells Anne about how McKay, a geologist, did eighteen months for manslaughter following an accident in which his wife and the other driver were killed while the McKays were fleeing from aliens that they saw.
Kind of a unique and tragic backstory.

she wrests the wheel from David and pulls over the car (which seems to be one of his weaknesses).
"They didn't cover this in Driver's Ed!"

As David tries to stop her from leaving the car, she goes into one of her rages, but outside her startling metamorphosis proves ineffectual against David's plot armor.
I wouldn't want Suzanne Pleshette to fly into a rage on me. Or maybe I would. I dunno.

McKay's (Richard O'Brien)
Him again.

Eddie (Mike McGreevey)--reluctant to cooperate because his father could go back to jail for harboring a fugitive
Not a believer?

When McKay blocks the door, she Thems Out and beats him with a poker.
"I told you you wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

Sheriff Halloway shares the news from Eddie with Hank, who chastises his successor for not getting on it even though it's not his jurisdiction.
"Rules are for punks, kid."

David nurses Charlie onto Recovery Road, but Anne's the one who doesn't want to leave him to make the rendezvous, accusing David of being less human than she.
Shouldn't there be an ambulance there by now if it's been long enough for Halloway to hear about it and tell Hank?

They nevertheless proceed to the ballfield to catch the chopper just as Corwin & co. arrive and fire shots at it, which prove no match for David and Edgar's combined plot armor.
"Twin powers-- Activate!"

It's the end of Act III, nothing can go wrong now!
:rommie:

After landing in Fairfax, Virginia
In the same helicopter?

Scoville rushes inside for help.
Because the exchange of gunfire wasn't enough to interest the Justice Department. :rommie:

Scoville arrives with a security guard to cover the door.
The Justice Department is worse than the OSI. :rommie:

While a very nervous Anne proceeds to the meeting room with David, Chekhov's Vigilante Widower pops out of a doorway and shoots her.
Ironically, he was only able to sneak inside with a loaded gun because Scoville had commandeered the Justice Department's security guard.

She dramatically collapses into David's arms, but he knows enough to let go before she glows up in front of several gathered witnesses.
Yeah, that's dramatic. I don't remember anything like that happening before.

Scoville: It's a rotten shame. She could have ended this nightmare once and for all. She could have helped every one of us...the whole human race.
I just don't understand why she was even on Earth. You'd think they would have eliminated her as soon as they realized the experiment was a failure.

Following the series, David takes a job with an architectural firm in a California suburb...unaware that his colleague Mike is secretly one of their leaders.
"Hey! That kid! I know you! You were that paperboy!"

Jolly good, old chap.
:mallory:

Taking an interest in the math behind his age, I had a look at his Wiki entry. He claimed to be a few years older, but his Army record gave a birth year of 1850, which would have made him 14 when he enlisted late in the war. He became a drummer boy in a company that didn't see any action. There's a quote from Ike about his passing.
Interesting. He seems to have become kind of an influential figure, despite just being a young drummer boy during the war.

Ah, showing a little Red Sox pride?
Actually, I was channeling my Aunt Janice-- she always had a big crush on him and always jumped to his defense. :rommie:

Doesn't improve on the original, though.
I'm not sure I even know which is which.

I also discovered the King in the '70s, because we had some original singles from this era that would have been my mom's.
Nice. I suppose it's too much to hope that they still exist.

August 17: Bela gets thirsty.
Interesting idea....

I was aware in the '80s, but by then it was more retro than recent.
You started seeing a lot of characters who were Vietnam veterans.

Spaceballed.
Sequel on the way. There goes the neighborhood again. :rommie:
 


Post-58th Anniversary Viewing



The Invaders
"Inquisition"
Originally aired March 26, 1968
Series finale
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David and Edgar battle a fanatical prosecuting attorney to clear themselves of a murder charge.

David and Scoville bring the Kookshow to the Capitol Building office of Senator Robert Breeding (Alex Gerry), warning him that they suspect a technical advisor to the National Security Council, Arthur Koy, of being either one of them or a collaborator. Koy's both reputable and a personal friend, motivating the senator to angrily dismiss his guests. His secretary (Mary Gregory) notices an unattended briefcase and goes out to ask David if it's his...and the office explodes, killing Breeding.

The QM Narrator said:
Minutes after the violent death of one of Washington's most beloved senators, David Vincent and Edgar Scoville are hustled to the office of Special Assistant to the Attorney General Andrew M. Hatcher.

Hatcher ([Peter] Mark Richman) has his guest, reporter Joan Seeley (pilot Trek babe Susan Oliver), stick around for the meeting, letting them believe she's a secretary. Hatcher takes an interest in the Believers group and its tracking stations, about which David and Edgar are unwilling to provide information. Hatcher postulates that if his guests believe what they're selling, that would be motive for murder. Afterward, Seely tracks down David and Scoville's location, a safehouse with a manned tracking center in the basement, whose personnel include James Bolin (John Milford). After Joan comes clean regarding who she is, David and Edgar show her film of Koy (uncredited George Hoagland) meeting a known alien and exchanging a report on communication interruption devices for what they believe is an operational plan for Koy to program. Then they get a call that Koy's scheduled to leave for Paris. Joan warns them of Hatcher's devious methods and motivation to use them as stepping-stones, which convinces them to let her accompany David as he sneaks into Koy's home to wait for him to retrieve the documents from his safe. A gun-wielding David gets the documents from him, but Koy goes for his own weapon and ends up being shot into glowing up before Joan's eyes. Meanwhile, Hatcher's assistant, Hadley Jenkins (Stewart Moss), reports to his boss that the bomb was made of a new explosive called caldonite, which only Scoville produces; and brings in Dr. Stanley Frederickson (Robert H. Harris), who says that he's a former Believer who wants to talk.

The story of Koy's disappearance gets written up in the paper, and Joan visits Hatcher, with whom, we learn, she has a personal history. When she tries to dissuade him from prosecuting Scoville, she learns that he's planning to nail the entire Believers group and has convened a grand jury for an indictment. She also makes a date with him. After reporting to David, she sits in on the grand jury hearing, where Frederickson names multiple Believers and testifies to having attended a meeting in which a contingency to kill the senator was planned. When Joan reports this, David says that he's never heard of Frederickson. While she's at the safehouse, Bolin reports a partial decoding of Koy's document, which indicates that a general assault is imminent. Needing to stop the indictment so that they're free to act on details they've yet to decode, David and Scoville confront Hatcher after his date with Joan to persuade him to help them against the alien threat if they can prove it. David shows him the coded documents, tells of what they've learned, and admits to having killed Koy, who incinerated. Hatcher says that he'll stop the indictment, but outside arranges via car phone to have Koy's house investigated for evidence of David's presence and for a new indictment to be drafted for conspiracy to murder Arthur Koy.

The jury produces the indictment, and Hatcher proceeds to obtain warrants. At the safehouse, further decoding indicates that their plan is to use an ultrasound device to kill every living creature on Earth...which would use three transmitters that have to be found. Joan drops in to update them, and Scoville arranges to have David and Bolin go to one of his facilities to finish the decoding with a more powerful new computer. (This episode specifies that Scoville's business is advanced electronics, which includes guidance systems and defense contract work.) When they see a police car pulling up outside the house, Scoville provides a distraction to enable the others to get away--pushing and running from the officer, which leads to him being shot in the back!
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Joan angrily confronts Hatcher, telling him what she saw at Koy's, which he doesn't believe. He takes her to where Frederickson's being kept under guard, to find that the witness has apparently escaped through the bathroom window...though Joan finds ashes on the floor. One of the security men then gets a report via phone that two of the named Believers were stopped at a roadblock, where one of them was killed trying to escape. At the Scoville facility, David and Bolin learn that the attack is only hours away, and that one of the transmitters is at a hotel in town.

Joan heads to the facility to warn David and Bolin that the police are on the way; and then takes their car to act as a decoy. As she attempts to evade police cars converging on her, she slams into a wall; following which David and James get away in her car. Hatcher visits Joan at the hospital, where she asserts that he knows the truth now but won't accept it. At the hotel, David and James bluff their way through a service entrance posing as phone company workers and, after having to slug out a suspicious engineer (George Robotham), use detectors to find a high-voltage area. They pass through a generator area to find a room where two of them are monitoring the transmitter. David shoots one of them into glowing up, but James takes a slug struggling with the other over his gun, following which David shoots the alien. Bolin's last words...

Tell Hatcher...I'll wait for him in hell...!

David opens a vault door to find the transmitter apparatus, which looks like an antenna dish with a crystal in the center of it. He shoots the crystal, which goes up in sparks and smoke.

In the Epilog, David arrives at the hospital to be informed by a sobered Hatcher that Joan has died. Hatcher rationalizes that he did what he had to do.

David: Sure, I can see that. Put a few people in prison, a few more in hospitals, and a few more in cemeteries.​

David nevertheless recruits Hatcher to help stop them from rebuilding their transmitter.

The QM Narrator said:
And now, Andrew M. Hatcher joins David Vincent in his struggle against the invaders. Edgar Scoville will recover from his wounds, and these three will be in the vanguard, leading the fight against the aliens from space--invaders who must be stopped.

This episode proved to be what I wasn't expecting--an eventful enough installment to serve as a satisfying conclusion to the series while leaving things open for a potential continuation. Given how Scoville's survival was only established in the closing narration, I strongly suspect that he was meant to have been killed. There was a conspicuous lack of acknowledgment of Scoville's fate until that last bit of voiceover, which could indicate that any references to the contrary were edited out of the final cut; though it's also possible that they were leaving that bit of business open during production.

Photos (a couple of which aren't from this episode):
For the record, the guy who took Scoville's fall was obviously not Kent Smith. From his big hair, he appeared to be a stuntman wearing a helmet underneath.



Did we ever see Emily bleed?
Good question.

Grandpa Walton, ayuh.
Ah, yes...and Grandma was in the first episode, IIRC.

I wonder what the original purpose of the experiment was. It seems like it could only be counterproductive from Their point of view.
Probably to better allow themselves to pass as humans.

Wouldn't that have been the original reason for the meeting?
It probably was.

"You glow it, you bought it!"
I could see the character saying something like that.

That's weird. It's unusual for this show to have any intentional comic relief.
Maybe you just haven't seen enough of it.

"You were supposed to sign this back in seventeen years ago!"
I think he'd only been retired for two.

I wouldn't want Suzanne Pleshette to fly into a rage on me. Or maybe I would. I dunno.
:evil:

Not a believer?
I think he was, but he had other priorities motivating him.

Shouldn't there be an ambulance there by now if it's been long enough for Halloway to hear about it and tell Hank?
That was primarily a result of my plot condensation. The nursing back to health occurred before the sheriffs learned about McKay from his son. But indications are that David and Anne didn't call an ambulance...David was assuming that the authorities would be converging on the place after being informed by Eddie. And it's possible that the cabin didn't have a phone.

"Kooky Twin powers-- Activate!"
FTFY.

In the same helicopter?
That's what they seemed to be indicating.

Because the exchange of gunfire wasn't enough to interest the Justice Department. :rommie:
The Justice Department is worse than the OSI. :rommie:
Ironically, he was only able to sneak inside with a loaded gun because Scoville had commandeered the Justice Department's security guard.
All of the Justice Department personnel were in Washington, not L.A.

I just don't understand why she was even on Earth. You'd think they would have eliminated her as soon as they realized the experiment was a failure.
Maybe her issues only came out in the field.

Actually, I was channeling my Aunt Janice-- she always had a big crush on him and always jumped to his defense. :rommie:
I had to look up which team he played for.

I'm not sure I even know which is which.
You've lost your ability to distinguish Little Richard from Not Little Richard?

Nice. I suppose it's too much to hope that they still exist.
They do not. Our '70s record collection got melty in storage when we moved to Florida in '79.
 
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His secretary (Mary Gregory) notices an unattended briefcase and goes out to ask David if it's his...and the office explodes, killing Breeding.
I think the assassination of a senator in a bomb explosion would have a bigger impact than the episode makes it out to be, and an unwise move on the part of Them.

Hatcher ([Peter] Mark Richman)
Always an entertainingly intimidating presence.

Hatcher postulates that if his guests believe what they're selling, that would be motive for murder.
Not of the guy they were going to for help.

Seely tracks down David and Scoville's location
Either she's a good report or they're a bad Resistance. :rommie:

a safehouse with a manned tracking center in the basement
Does this mean tracking saucers or just the movements of known Thems?

but Koy goes for his own weapon and ends up being shot into glowing up before Joan's eyes.
"Then I saw him glow... now I'm a believer...."

that the bomb was made of a new explosive called caldonite
Electronics and explosives, apparently. :rommie:

who says that he's a former Believer who wants to talk.
An interesting concept kind of wasted on a fraud.

The story of Koy's disappearance gets written up in the paper
That's good, because nobody seems to be making too much of a fuss about the assassination of a United States Senator. :rommie:

a meeting in which a contingency to kill the senator was planned.
A contingency for what? They'd have no motive to kill the senator. If they wanted to kill someone, it would be Koy.

Bolin reports a partial decoding of Koy's document
Was this actual code, or do they have knowledge of the alien language?

Needing to stop the indictment so that they're free to act on details they've yet to decode, David and Scoville confront Hatcher
It occurs to me that it's a little weird that they made this character a special assistant to the Attorney General. You'd think that the Attorney General himself would be handling something so serious.

their plan is to use an ultrasound device to kill every living creature on Earth...
Sounds like overkill to me.

(This episode specifies that Scoville's business is advanced electronics, which includes guidance systems and defense contract work.)
And proprietary explosives. :rommie:

Scoville provides a distraction to enable the others to get away--pushing and running from the officer, which leads to him being shot in the back!
Whoa, there's a shocking moment.

Joan angrily confronts Hatcher, telling him what she saw at Koy's, which he doesn't believe.
Interesting. You'd think he'd have some trust in her.

One of the security men then gets a report via phone that two of the named Believers were stopped at a roadblock, where one of them was killed trying to escape.
That brings them down to six. I forget, are Vincent and Scoville part of the seven or are they in addition?

David and Bolin learn that the attack is only hours away, and that one of the transmitters is at a hotel in town.
Presumably only one of them needs to be disabled to prevent the attack.

James takes a slug struggling with the other over his gun
High body count in this episode.

Tell Hatcher...I'll wait for him in hell...!
That's some strong language for that era.

David opens a vault door to find the transmitter apparatus, which looks like an antenna dish with a crystal in the center of it. He shoots the crystal, which goes up in sparks and smoke.
Probably would have been wiser to preserve the crystal.

David arrives at the hospital to be informed by a sobered Hatcher that Joan has died.
That's a shame. She would have been a valuable asset.

David: Sure, I can see that. Put a few people in prison, a few more in hospitals, and a few more in cemeteries.
That's a good line.

This episode proved to be what I wasn't expecting--an eventful enough installment to serve as a satisfying conclusion to the series while leaving things open for a potential continuation.
Maybe they saw the writing on the wall.

Given how Scoville's survival was only established in the closing narration, I strongly suspect that he was meant to have been killed.
It almost seems like Hatcher was intended to replace Scoville in the dynamic-- a person of influence, yet motivated by guilt. Did we ever learn Scoville's motivation?

There was a conspicuous lack of acknowledgment of Scoville's fate until that last bit of voiceover, which could indicate that any references to the contrary were edited out of the final cut; though it's also possible that they were leaving that bit of business open during production.
Perhaps the actor was negotiating. :rommie: Anyway, it's too bad that the show ended here. It seemed like they were really ramping things up, and a third season would have been very interesting.

Probably to better allow themselves to pass as humans.
They should have been experimenting with orthopedic metacarpal surgery. :rommie:

I could see the character saying something like that.
:rommie:

Maybe you just haven't seen enough of it.
Could be. The ones I saw didn't seem to have a lot of levity. Kind of like Mission: Impossible, they're all business.

I think he'd only been retired for two.
I figured, but I was exaggerating.

:angel:

That was primarily a result of my plot condensation. The nursing back to health occurred before the sheriffs learned about McKay from his son. But indications are that David and Anne didn't call an ambulance...David was assuming that the authorities would be converging on the place after being informed by Eddie. And it's possible that the cabin didn't have a phone.
Ah, okay.

There we go. That's the kind of humor the show needed. :rommie:

That's what they seemed to be indicating.
Well, I suppose there's no reason to think they didn't stop to refuel.

All of the Justice Department personnel were in Washington, not L.A.
I thought all of that stuff took place in Fairfax, presumably at a Justice Department facility.

Maybe her issues only came out in the field.
Yeah, true, that seems likely.

I had to look up which team he played for.
Locally, he's one of the most well-known players. I think even today most people would recognize his name.

You've lost your ability to distinguish Little Richard from Not Little Richard?
I didn't even remember it that well. :rommie:

They do not. Our '70s record collection got melty in storage when we moved to Florida in '79.
Aw, that's a real shame. That would a great thing to have.
 
I think the assassination of a senator in a bomb explosion would have a bigger impact than the episode makes it out to be, and an unwise move on the part of Them.
But they got away with it while making trouble for the Believers.

Not of the guy they were going to for help.
Who turned them away and knew too much.

Either she's a good report or they're a bad Resistance. :rommie:
She traced the number that they'd given the senator.

Does this mean tracking saucers or just the movements of known Thems?
Saucers--their space routes and landings!

"Then I saw him glow... now I'm a believer...."
Mickeyed.

Was this actual code, or do they have knowledge of the alien language?
Code, apparently. They didn't get into the language.

It occurs to me that it's a little weird that they made this character a special assistant to the Attorney General. You'd think that the Attorney General himself would be handling something so serious.
That's TV Land for ya. The heroes are always dealing with undersecretaries.

Whoa, there's a shocking moment.
I thought they were gonna reveal that he was wearing a bulletproof vest or something. His plot armor expired.

That brings them down to six. I forget, are Vincent and Scoville part of the seven or are they in addition?
Part of, but the consistent number thing was becoming ridiculous with all the members passing through. They should have treated it more like a cell structure with an unspecified number of members.

Presumably only one of them needs to be disabled to prevent the attack.
That's how they were playing it.

High body count in this episode.
Definitely gave it more of a finale vibe, even though most of were one-shots, one of whom we hadn't met.

That's a good line.
And a hint that Scoville was supposed to be dead.

It almost seems like Hatcher was intended to replace Scoville in the dynamic-- a person of influence, yet motivated by guilt. Did we ever learn Scoville's motivation?
Nope. Given how they were effectively wiping out a full complement of rotating Believers, I think they were going for a clean slate in that department.

Perhaps the actor was negotiating. :rommie:
There's also the usual possibility that something was cut for syndication.

Anyway, it's too bad that the show ended here. It seemed like they were really ramping things up, and a third season would have been very interesting.
Definitely could have been if they'd put a little more of a plan into it.

Could be. The ones I saw didn't seem to have a lot of levity. Kind of like Mission: Impossible, they're all business.
The surreal elements can have a bit of a dark comic touch.

I thought all of that stuff took place in Fairfax, presumably at a Justice Department facility.
They were supposed to be driving into Washington from Fairfax. I was being meta.
 
But they got away with it while making trouble for the Believers.
But an assassination like that, especially the way it was carried out, should have been a major news event. There would have been multiple government agencies swarming around, bringing unwanted attention to anyone associated with Breeding. Also, the FBI would have grabbed Vincent and Scoville and held them for as long as they could get away with it, which would have been bad for the story.

Who turned them away and knew too much.
So he presented more of a threat to the Believers than the Thems? I suppose the authorities would perceive it that way.

She traced the number that they'd given the senator.
So both. She knew her reporter stuff and they didn't cover their tracks very well. :rommie:

Saucers--their space routes and landings!
Nice. It's too bad they still didn't have that Pirate Radio technology.

That's TV Land for ya. The heroes are always dealing with undersecretaries.
But it was another sign that the story wasn't taking the assassination seriously enough. And in this case, all they really had to do was change Peter Mark Richman's title.

Part of, but the consistent number thing was becoming ridiculous with all the members passing through. They should have treated it more like a cell structure with an unspecified number of members.
Yeah, definitely.

And a hint that Scoville was supposed to be dead.
True.

There's also the usual possibility that something was cut for syndication.
Yeah.

Definitely could have been if they'd put a little more of a plan into it.
Which they seemed to be realizing.

The surreal elements can have a bit of a dark comic touch.
True, which I like.

They were supposed to be driving into Washington from Fairfax. I was being meta.
Aha. :rommie:
 
But an assassination like that, especially the way it was carried out, should have been a major news event. There would have been multiple government agencies swarming around, bringing unwanted attention to anyone associated with Breeding. Also, the FBI would have grabbed Vincent and Scoville and held them for as long as they could get away with it, which would have been bad for the story.
All good points, especially with it having happened in the Capitol Building itself.

So he presented more of a threat to the Believers than the Thems? I suppose the authorities would perceive it that way.
They think they're dealing with crackpots fighting a crusade against an imaginary enemy.

Nice. It's too bad they still didn't have that Pirate Radio technology.
And the tracking tech would have been a necessary component of that.

But it was another sign that the story wasn't taking the assassination seriously enough. And in this case, all they really had to do was change Peter Mark Richman's title.
That's just to be expected from TV of the era, though. They want to convey the illusion that it's the real world, so they're not going to invent a fictitious cabinet member.
 
All good points, especially with it having happened in the Capitol Building itself.
That's true too. They probably would have clamped down all of Washington.

They think they're dealing with crackpots fighting a crusade against an imaginary enemy.
Yeah, they're just a bunch of kooks. :rommie:

And the tracking tech would have been a necessary component of that.
Right. That would have been a good way to go in the third season.

That's just to be expected from TV of the era, though. They want to convey the illusion that it's the real world, so they're not going to invent a fictitious cabinet member.
But I mean he could have been the actual Attorney General.
 
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