Will Sam Beckett Return Home? NBC Orders Quantum Leap Reboot Pilot

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  1. Christopher

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    Good catch. I wondered about how long she'd been on the force, but I didn't know enough to comment. That definitely makes it more implausible.


    You mean this guy? https://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Kolp
     
  2. FreezeC77

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    I wonder who Ben has leaped into in the future. Is it himself?
     
  3. Christopher

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    He'd have to come back from his leaps first, in order to be there in the future. That's kind of a spoiler. And the way time-travel logic in fiction generally works is that if this is the future of the current present version of the timeline, then he presumably wouldn't be in it, because the current present is one where he hasn't returned.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    He's inside Addison.
     
  5. FreezeC77

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    Not the first time then.

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  6. Finn

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    depends on the plot device, especially some kind of temporal techobabble. :shrug:
     
  7. Christopher

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    Yeah, but that's just it -- the device serves the plot. If the driving problem of the series is "Will Ben ever get home?," then showing a future where he did indeed get home could undermine the suspense.

    Although on the other hand, they could say that he did get home in the apocalyptic timeline, and in order to prevent the apocalypse, he has to sacrifice his chance of getting home. So I guess they could go either way.
     
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  8. Guy Gardener

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    The core Characters only remember their original timeline.

    Change is something that happens to other people.

    This Ian, and who ever Ben is riding, are going to remember the nuclear explosion, after they fix the past, unless the war(?) is a new timeline they did not live through... Ziggy should be safe from change as well, but he burnt down anyway?
     
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    A cut scene from the classic QL finale (filmed but not aired) had Al telling Beth in their changed timeline that Sam had leapt into the future, and that Al was going to find him no matter what. If the current show picks up on this as a plot thread, then this may indeed have been what they were after all along - yes to somehow save Addison, but also to follow wherever Sam disappeared to.

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  10. Guy Gardener

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    Now that there's no waiting room, Sam's lifeline reach's one end when he steps into the Quantum accelerator.
     
  11. IMC Headquarters

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    That's him! :hugegrin:

    Does Ziggy pull a Colossus and actually nuke the world? Did Ben leap into Nick Miller???

    I think I'm going to suspend all temporal speculation and just wait for the revelations next week. I'm sure I'll be more befuddled and befogged afterward, because this continuation of Quantum Leap has more mysteries per minute than La Brea, another NBC Mystery Box which has adopted the Russian Doll approach to thread management whose season finale only induced spastic eye-rolling

    I'm not looking for Sam in this continuation of the show any more than I looked for Kirk and company in Star Trek: The Next Generation. It's a new narrative that has its own identity for storytelling.

    I want Ian's Handlink! Me like!
     
  12. Christopher

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    How many times now have we seen them use superimposed holograms, other than the leap advisor(s) themselves, to assist Ben? I remember the boxing videos Addison showed Ben in the boxing episode, the CPR guide in the earthquake episode repurposed from the original pilot (so that was technically the first), and now the flight path guide here. It's a nice elaboration on the hologram idea.

    I can't recall any instances of them doing that in the original series, and it wouldn't have been as easy to do the effect in those days. But I wonder if I'm forgetting any cases where they did a simpler version. EDIT: Hold on, I vaguely remember something about Al using the handlink to project a beam of light, but I forget the specifics.
     
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  13. Amaris

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    This was a very good episode. Ian's right, Ben looks fantastic in that outfit. I did laugh when Addison said the kid's body guard was a former NYPD cop, and that Ben could trust her. Also, I feel vindicated there.

    Of course, turning off Ziggy is the big question of the episode (IMO), and now I wonder if what happens in the future is a direct result of that? What does Ziggy's task entail? What was Ziggy's rationale behind sharing information? I can't wait to find out.
     
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  14. Christopher

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    I don't think there is one. This show's version of Ziggy doesn't seem to be sentient or have any volition of its own; it's just a really powerful number cruncher. As they explained in this episode, it's simply that the future Quantum Leap team behind Martinez is using the exact same equipment decades later, so all they have to do is look up the archives from 2023 and they'll know everything that their predecessors did.

    Since Ian said they'd written every line of Ziggy's code, that seems to prove that this is not the same Ziggy from the original show, merely a new computer named after her. Which makes me wish they'd given this computer a different name instead of creating misleading expectations.
     
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  15. Amaris

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    Ah, I didn't know that. I thought Ziggy was an AI like in the original.
     
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    Wow. They should have built everything in the Project out of serial number plating! Ben would go on Leaping for sure!
     
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    Isn’t Ian’s handlink the “original” one that Addison used in the original pilot episode? When that pilot was partially reshot and incorporated into the early season, they had Addison’s regular prop malfunction, forcing her to use the old one (in story) in its place.

    As a prop it’s fine, but IMO they should have evolved the gummi bear prop instead of giving Addison the sundial handlink. I’m sure they didn’t stick with the one Ian used because it’s too much like a phone - but it was a great opportunity IMO to include a bigger bid to the most well known version.

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  18. Christopher

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    So did I until I saw this week's episode. All I'm doing is repeating what they said.
     
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    I seem to remember Al doing it to help Sam play pool.
     
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  20. Christopher

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    Oh yeah, he did, didn't he? So the idea was there in the original show. Cool, thanks.
     
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