Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. David cgc

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    ... no, no, it's not. I don't think you picked up on my point. It's not what they did in DSC, it's how they did it. Perhaps I'm underestimating how subtle they were, but there were some stylistic differences in the recap for "If Memory Serves" compared to the recaps for the other thirteen episodes that season, or, even, every other recap in every Star Trek show ever.

    Imagine if the footage from "Farpoint" in this past week's episode had had incongruous twinkling '80s prom-music over it, just the most out-of-place, of-its-time track you could find from TNG season 1, and if the trees and and rocks in the background had dancing hand-drawn neon-colored scribble outlines (because it was made in the '80s, you see) instead the footage of just being cut into the episode no differently than if they'd shot a flashback scene specifically for it today. Would that not be out of place?
     
  2. fireproof78

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    Not to me. It was in story. Worked fine.

    Mileage clearly varies because I think people are looking for offense.
     
  3. Gepard

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    You're not. People are just deliberately missing your argument because they don't want to concede that the fans with unfashionable views might have a point.
     
  4. HotRod

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    I think they were just having fun with the whole idea of using the old footage. Remember? When Star Trek used to be fun?
     
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    Clone Wars and Rebels really don't.
    The lightsabers are super skinny, Vader is angular and thinner, troopers...just weirder. It is all very quaint. Now, it is all an homage to the original concept art of Ralph Macquarrie but it is actually very different. And Resistance went full strange 80s cel shading with heavy borders. So no. And it has created quite the kerfuffle over skinny and pointed versus "regular" sabers. But no one says one is replacing the other.
     
  6. Nerys Myk

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    Yep. I loved it.
     
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  7. Magistos

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    It was great. And honestly, I also thought it was a not so subtle "this is Christopher Pike, no matter the actor". My dad saw that episode with me and literally said "Oh!"
     
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  8. Tuskin38

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    It was never retconned. It even showed up in Prodigy and Lower Decks (which Paramount considers canon) after the redesign showed up in DSC.
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    Or that it's fuction in the story worked the same for other viewers.
     
  10. David cgc

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    There's a fine line between "having fun" and "making fun," and my opinion is that what they did was the latter by exaggerating how old and campy and different it was, and just using footage from "The Cage" straight as if it came from any other episode of DSC without acknowledging any difference would be the former. You know, the way they just did with a bunch of old stuff in PIC.

    And, believe me, "If Memory Serves" is not the episode to champion as bringing the fun back to Star Trek. If anything, by playing up the contrast, they were drawing attention to how prestige streaming Star Trek is serious business, not like the old stuff.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    Nope. The lightsabers alone caused many of my fan friends to walk away from Clone Wars and Rebels.
    How is it making fun? It actually felt fun.
     
  12. Magistos

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    Call me a simple man. You tell me THATS the Enterprise and as long as it isn't say, the Battlestar Galactica or some ship from EVE Online, I'm likely to go along with it. The Apple Store Kelvin Enterprise was a bit harder to go with, but I did.

    It's asthetics. It's all it is.
     
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    Apple store bridge, beer brewery engineering
     
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  14. fireproof78

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    Believable work place.
     
  15. Dukhat

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    The footage from ‘The Cage’ was used because there was no reason for them to mimic-reshoot those scenes with the production values they currently had, because the original footage made the point they wanted to make. There was no larger meaning to it than that.
     
  16. Noname Given

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    But that's 48 frames to obsess over at standard HD resolution. ;)
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    Looks cool. Made me smile.

    The bastards...:shifty:
     
  18. Nerys Myk

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    Star Trek ship
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    They clearly take Star Wars very seriously :lol:
     
  20. fireproof78

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    They did a lot of vfx work and fan films. The prequels were hard and the Clone Wars was too far for them.

    Star Trek was similarly treated.