Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 22, 2023.

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  1. FreezeC77

    FreezeC77 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think this episode was probably the closest to a Jeremy Irons in Dungeons & Dragons yet in this season.
     
  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Watching again, I noticed Jack is wearing one of the leather Starfleet uniforms. But in certain light you can see the dark red.
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  3. marillion

    marillion Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Oh my god.. People would lose their minds!! I love it!
     
  4. fireproof78

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    He was already wearing a Starfleet uniform though...
     
  5. Saul

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    It seems very very unlikely to me. They might as well say he came back and is living on Bajor. That still leaves the door open for the future.
     
  6. marillion

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    Why is Kirk's body stored at Daystrom and not respectfully buried in Iowa or San Francisco?

    I really hope that wasn't just fanwank. I'd really like to know.
     
  7. Airmandan

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    Vadic acts too much like a normal "solid" which makes her being a changeling odd. Her frequent smoking of cigars and other mannerisms strike me as something other than a normal changeling. I wonder if she and others like her aren't true changelings.
     
  8. Yistaan

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    Wasn't there a project phoenix line somewhere? Meaning they want to resurrect him?

    Also, just how common knowledge is it that Picard is a synth? Because there are tons of people waiting in line for eternal life via synth mind transfer. We know that Jack knows. But if Vadic literally parades Picard's corpse on Frontier Day, she might say that the Picard on the Titan is a fake, or that Starfleet is unfairly hiding resurrection processes, or something.

    Everyone, including in-universe, keeps thinking of Picard's corpse as a weapon, in the physical sense. But the most powerful weapons often aren't physical at all, but psychological.
     
  9. Magistos

    Magistos Commander Red Shirt

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    I keep getting this weird thought that somehow these changlelings have "merged" with solids, and taken the body over - like a symbiote, kind of. Which creates an entirely new category of body horror via "I have no mouth and I must scream" and would explain the meatier aspect of their physiology.

    I don't know, just a random brain spark.
     
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  10. marillion

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    Oh right. Project Phoenix.. But why resurrect him? Yes, he's a legendary captain and saved the galaxy more than once, but still.. Let the man rest.
     
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  11. Supervisor 194

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    I suspect Kirk's body being stored at Daystrom---complete with TOS medical sound effect---is just an easter egg to fans of the character to suggest that maybe his death on Veridian is not necessarily the end, and that the door is open for him to appear again in future stories.

    Personally I hope this leads to one last appearance of William Shatner as Kirk in a final bow befitting his place in the franchise, but even if that never happens I appreciate the notion that the disappointing "Generations" is no longer the end of his story.
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    I think Data is going to 'die' again before the end of the season. But not like actually die, I think all of the personalities are going to merge together and create a new one.
     
  13. Yistaan

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    That's what Strange New Worlds is for though. The Daystrom thing is teasing a Shatner appearance. Well if that's what they want they'd better hurry up, all due respect to the man but he isn't getting any younger.
     
  14. captainkirk

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    This is my main theory. The dying infant changeling merged with Odo when he'd been turned into a solid and gave his shapeshifting abilities back. Maybe it's possible to merge with someone who was always a solid and become a freaky hybrid. Or perhaps when this group broke away from the Great Link they were supposed to be made solid, but the process didn't complete.
     
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  15. mattman8907

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    I would if he popped up.
     
  16. UssGlenn

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    If Changelings have infiltrated the high ranks at Starfleet Command, then they can make decisions that create vulnerabilities.
     
  17. Yistaan

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    Odo knows how traumatizing it is to forcibly be made solid. I don't think he'd do that to another changeling, not even to Vadic and her group.
     
  18. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    They had an entire research station dedicated to the technology, they likely just made another.

    Likely multiple others before figuring out there wasn't really any way to stabilize it on a macro scale and mothballing the entire thing till Gideon Seyetik came around with the idea of using a modified version of the technology to re-ignite burnt out stars.
     
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  19. mswood

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    Well after rewatching it with no distractions its improved a bit (original range was 5-6.5). It's a 6.5 in my book. Really the only thing that doesn't work at all is that this was supposed to be a caper episode (something Trek has not done well), is that there wasn't a real sense of being rushed that time was a definite issue that had monumental consequences. And in these situations it absolutely should be. The other was how frigging close was Daystrom to the ship museum because there was almost no time difference between the two.

    But outside of a few character moments that did really work (Seven was especially well done) it really felt paint by numbers. I need to get all these things to this point, and it has to be done by the end of this episode. Previously the other episodes had vastly superior pacing. This episode had pacing like mid season 2 Picard, and that isn't a compliment.

    Sure we had all these cool little nuggets throughout the episode, but lets be very clearer lmsot none of them were there to move the story.

    Season to date
    1 - 7.5
    2 - 8.5
    3 - 9
    4 - 9
    5 - 9.5
    6 - 6.5

    For me thats so far a exceedingly solid season.
     
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  20. J. Frank Doobie

    J. Frank Doobie Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Was the Kirk "Easter egg" the Trek equivalent of that malformed Snoke in a jar from The Rise of Skywalker?

    "Somehow, the Changelings have returned."

    j/k, j/k, I'm sure it's fine...
     
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  21. J. Frank Doobie

    J. Frank Doobie Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Agree, I felt it was very much hitting the needed marks but not making it feel very smooth, which admittedly is very hard.

    The "chase" aspect of this really fell flat. Couldn've had the same outcome with Geordi on the viewscreen in for a minute or so. Glad the LaForge's got developed in this episode, though, so I won't complain too much!