Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. fireproof78

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    Carpeting on a starship looked tacky.
    We don't decide canon.
     
  2. Spike730

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    I can somewhat understand (but still not a fan of it) why Starfleet would recycle class names a 1000 years later. But this is unnecessary fan service IMO and the Roman numerals feel rather clumsy. Well, at least the class name is as unoriginal as the ship design.
     
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  3. TimeIsAPredator

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    I think it kinda loses all meaning when every single ship is a call back.
     
  4. Rahul

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    My biggest WTF is still why they use the new Titan at all...?
    I mean they introduced a perfect "present day juggernaut ship" with the Stargazer already, which even is a great callback to Picard's first command, and, hell, they're even using the same filming sets anyway!
     
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  5. Spike730

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    Because Matalas said so. And you better not disagree with him.
     
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  6. RuleofAcuisition17

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    Because quite a few fans have been asking to see the Titan, ya know, the ship that Riker served on. If not a more Rikery themed show for a while.

    So to appease said fans he's put it on the Titan-A which is a completely different class and ship from the Titan which Riker served on. But to add confusion has also said its the Titan that Riker served on.
     
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  7. TimeIsAPredator

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    I really liked the names in the early seasons of Disco. They at least deanglisised the names if not dehumanised.

    I feel like since then they have lost their bottle and memberberried everything.
     
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  8. RuleofAcuisition17

    RuleofAcuisition17 Commander Red Shirt

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    Calling something the Neo Constitution Class is a memberberry? Nooooo.

    Also, not sure what you mean exactly? We've had non-aglicised named ships before, stuff like the Danube Class Runabouts had very few of their on screen counterparts not be African or Asian rivers.

    In Discovery the main ships seen are the Crossfield Class, which is named after an American Test Pilot.
    The Shepard Class (Gagarin and Glenn) is named after Alan Shepard an astronaut (hence the names of the class are presumably all astronauts) as is the Walker Class (Shenzou).

    Not very deanglisised.
     
  9. valkyrie013

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    How about Non Human ship names and Class Names? Homo Sapiens Only Club Indeed!
    150 member species, but every starship is named after Earth people, places, or moons..

    When everything is a callback, then nothing is.
     
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  10. RuleofAcuisition17

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    Considering how intertwined Vulcans, Andorians and Tellerites are to the supposed very core of the Federation...

    It's definitely reaching the point of annoying we don't see a Shran Class, a Sarek class, a T'pol Class, Gral class etc.

    But I suppose the thinking is its too internally self-referential while a more casual audience might at least pick up on "Oh cool! They named them after Astronauts! And rivers! And cities in California!"
     
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  11. TimeIsAPredator

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    My impression was old British and American warships was usually the order of the day before but I just had a look now and almost every early Disco ship is an astronaut or 20th century space vessel. Even a few I thought were non English are just American pilots.
     
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  12. RuleofAcuisition17

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    Picard probably gets a bit closer to "deanglisising" but still very, very human.

    You have the La Serena, which is a Kaplan Class Fast Frieghter (Kaplan is a popular name in Star Trek, not sure if its a reference or a company)

    USS Zeng He is an Inquiry Class and its on screen counterparts are named after the various explorers of earth. With Magellan, Nathan Hale and Shackleton getting named alongside Zeng He and from Season 2 its all "memberberries" the whole way down.
     
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  14. Tuskin38

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    Most of the ship and class names in DSC Season 1 came from John Eaves, he’s very fond of naming things after pilots and astronauts.

    PIC Season 2 ships are a mix of original names and names pulled from STO and other non-canon sources


    How? Most of the ship names in season 2 have never appeared in any of the series/movies before. It would only be nostalgia for those who have played STO or read any books/wiki pages. One of them is even named after a Klingon.

    https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/fleet-pic-s2.htm


    DSC Season 1 had a USS Shran.

    It’s never seen on screen, but a Cardassisn Federation ship is mentioned in DSC Season 3.


    I find that very unlikely. And Terry has not said it’s the same Titan as far as I’m aware.

    What is this supposed to mean?

    Terry really liked the Shangri-La.

    A majority of ships in these series aren’t call backs.
     
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  15. TimeIsAPredator

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    I wonder is Shackleton the first ship in Star Trek with an Irish name.
     
  16. TimeIsAPredator

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    PIC season 2 and Disco 3 certainly felt that way.
    So far season 3 looks that way.
     
  17. Tuskin38

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    Did you read the list of ship names in the link above? A majority of the ship names in season 2 were not call backs.

    DSC Season 3 as well, only 2 ships shared names from previous series.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Yup. It's about making it accessible and Star Trek is the story of the human adventure.
     
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  19. TimeIsAPredator

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    How many of those ships were actually named in the show. I remember hearing Excelsior, Stargazer and Uhura.
     
  20. TimeIsAPredator

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    I didn't say shared the same name I said call backs.
    Fair play for the Nog callback but we had another Intrepid class Voyager and another Constitution class which were actually shown in show.