I wonder why they chose to add the finale scene of the trailer, it could have been something inspirational and positive. Instead we got: Also, do we know who the little girl is that Raffi is looking at the hologram of? Could it be her granddaughter? Her younger self? Could this be a result of the events as depicted in the season 2 finale? The Species 8472/Doomsday Machine like attack from within the Borg Transwarp conduit? I wonder what the ‘all consuming darkness’ could be? It can’t be Vadic? There could be a bigger enemy at play? Vadic could blame Picard for this greater threat If he had somehow encountered it before?
I thought they were being ironic, i.e. they do enjoy it. That was my first thought, but she looks nothing like her parents...
But if this is true, in the context of the trailer it would be quite a mis-placed enjoyment? If the trailer was more upbeat then it would make more sense, so perhaps this scene is out of context with what the trailer shows?
No one in the last 30 years has said the final two seasons of Voyager were the best seasons. 4 and 5 get praise but the rest of it is considered hot garbage. Everyone hated season 1 - 3 so much they had to bring in Jeri Ryan to make people watch the show. Despite Jeri, season 6 and 7 were a ratings disaster, were panned by the fans and are considered the first real signs of 90's trek burning out. Star Trek should never go back to formulaic, conservative storytelling of Voyager and Enterprise. None of this is accurate. It's already been stated by the showrunners that Season 5 will involve a quest of sorts to find some ancient technology. Audience scoring on Rotten Tomatoes means fuck all, because of review bombing. Some fans are so unbelieveably petty and so unbelieveably childish that they actively try and hurt the show because it's not the show they specifically wanted or because they dislike seeing a black woman having agency and telling white men what to do. It's the exact same behaviour that I remember people exhibiting to DS9 and Voyager but it's 100 times worse because there are more platforms available. People need to realise that each Trek show is trying to occupy it's own niche. Discovery is blockbuster trek. It's goal is to take the place of the films and all the action packed two part episodes, which is why the stories are larger than life. SNW is Episodic Trek catering to the people who want planet of the week stories. And then you have Picard, Lower decks and Prodigy which are individually Prestige Trek, Comedy Trek, and Kids Trek and collectively nostalgia trek that appeals to the desire for stories set in the 24th - 25th centuries. Kurtzman and Paramount know that not everyone is going like to every series, so they are actively catering to different people.
Isn't it usually, with trailers? I just took it to mean "ah, like good old times: the most dangerous threat to the universe, ever, and the old gang together, here we go again, I'm too old for this sh*t but it's also fun etc." A bit lame, maybe, but not depressing.
I mean it's just a trailer, so it could very well be underselling the quality of the story. But man, is it underwhelming. I remain cautiously optimistic for the season, though.
That was certainly...a trailer. It feels funny that the lasting legacy of the TNG crew is that they were action heroes in-universe. Or perhaps that is just how Picard himself is viewed by the public at this stage of his life, which is even funnier. Anyway, is that an NX class crashing into the Titan(?) at the 25 sec mark?
Because Terry didn't want to spoil anything else. Gatekeeping is always bad. No it's Beverly's ship, we see it in previous trailers. No. It's already been confirmed Season 3 is not following up on the transwarp conduit. Trailers are always out of context. You should never judge something based on its trailer.
You want trippy... today in the Trader Joe's parking lot, there was a car with Twin Peaks logo, zig zag lines like the Blu ray discs, and a quote that Google says is from David Lynch! The Orville toned down most of it's over the top humor after getting picked up by Fox (granted the exception of the porn virus holodeck episode held over from season 1). Seth sold Family Guy in Space, Fox got a Star Trek homage. I know this isn't the book forum, but Peter David's New Frontier series more or less had Orville type humor and it worked in universe. Whereas Lower Decks never seems to reach fully believable in universe humor. And, speaking of tv shows that could be parallel universes to Star Trek, Ron Moore's For All Mankind gets well regards. Maybe March will be my AppleTV month... but March also has the long awaited return of Party Down, so Starz kinda has that month occupied, especially if I end up liking Bryan Fuller's American Gods. STP 201 "The Star Gazer" is the only "baseline Star Trek" live action episode I've seen under the NuTrek regime that could easily slot into 1966-2005 Star Trek without raising wait, what questions. JJ Abrams already did a Star Trek reboot. The other option is doing a The Next Next Generation.. which Picard season 3 is opening the door to. Apparently Akiva was devoting more time to Titans than SNW. but that may be charging with Zaslav canceling the former... In trying to be both a reboot and a non-reboot, SNW constantly knocks me out of episodes. It's like... watching the news. I can see what's going on, but find it impossible to get into the story with essentially anti-canon mixed with member berries. Trek novels have managed to push many boundaries while still keeping to canon and maintaining verisimilitude. But in general, it has been argued that Star Trek at least in the Berman era was a period piece set in a future coherent shared universe, reflecting modernist secular humanism, timeless allegorical stories informed by current events, characters as competent professionals, and optimistic about the future and human nature. One of the best "how you fix Discovery" arguments I've heard is that at the end of season 2, instead of going into the "future", they should have jumped to a parallel universe and had arcs in multiple alt realities. They could still do their post-Apocalyptic thing without all the added baggage.
I know the producers wanted to delve into "the dark side of Trek," but this is ridiculous! The lighting sux! Any darker and I'll be watching a podcast!
Picard Season 3 is the first time I've looked forward to a TNG Movie since in 1996, and I'm not going to let some of you people in here ruin my enjoyment of it.
It's easy to be a "competent professional" when you spend the bulk of your career cruising the giant safe, known bathtub that is the Alpha Quadrant (i.e., TNG, TOS, SNW). Venturing off into the far unknown a la Disco and Voyager is another matter entirely (Would you be able to stand going someplace knowing full well that you'll never see your family and friends again?) Why NOT go into the future? You would have Star Trek: Sliders! (Which, BTW, was created by Tracy Torme -- a former writer for TNG). Why limit Trek creatively?
I don't begrudge anyone who's hyped their fun. I expect the same tolerance for my less enthusiastic reaction. Knee-jerked? Not any more than the positive reactions. We're all in the dark and it's possible the trailer is not remotely representative of the actual story. Someone upthread called it a TNG film, and that fits, for me. I've always preferred the tv shows to the movies. Of course I'm also one of the few who wasn't crazy about the idea of replacing most of the original cast with the TNG crew. The good thing about cautious pessimism (TM) is it makes it easy to be pleasantly surprised! I seem to remember I was quite hyped for s2, and that didn't turn out all that great (for me, ymmv). I haven't kept up in recent months, but if it's the same rumor I'm thinking of, I agree. It's one of the worst tropes for me and I hope it's wrong.
Spoiler They specified that the little girl is Raffi's granddaughter. It doesn't seem like Raffi's estranged family should be important enough to show up on the new big bad's radar, so I'm definitely curious about how their involvement dovetails into the overall plot.
Spoiler It may not be, it could be what she was doing before Picard comes looking for her. Though oddly they keep talking about the Titan-A as if it's the same Titan Riker commanded.