What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

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  1. Farscape One

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    I didn't realize corpsmen were on that level. Then the numbers do make more sense.

    That's a good point about how advanced Federation medicine is. Though given how often Starfleet ships render medical aid to other ships, colonies, entire worlds, etc., it almost feels like a requirement to have a couple more handy. Never mind how many diseases attack the crew on what seems like an every-other-monthly basis.
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    I would love a show of a border colony that maybe has a minimal Starfleet presence, like the "monthly or quaterly checks" that Kirk would do. I think it would be fun, and a good callback to the Western roots of Trek.
     
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  3. Deks

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    In Trek, we've seen that nurses can assist AND perform surgical procedures... essentially, 23rd and 24th century nurses go a step UP in terms of patient duties and responsibilities compared to current day one (although I doubt nurses will perform surgical procedures they are unfamiliar with - however, in a pinch without an available doctor, I suspec they will follow outlined procedures for specific surgeries as they ARE in the computer.

    I would posit that all SF ships come with at least 1 doctor. Smaller ships may have less doctors... perhaps 1 or 2 tops, and multiple nurses.
    In emergencies (such as combat, etc.), first aid can probably handle A LOT of cases... except in some situaitons when the patient is badly wounded and needs an actual procedure (at which point they are taken to sickbay).
     
  4. Farscape One

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    You do have to respect Starfleet for keeping a medkit in pretty much every room on their ships. Seriously, it seems like every room had an emergency medkit on hand.
     
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    I'm unfamiliar with the reference. Can you elaborate?
     
  6. Oddish

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    In the non-canon book "The Autobiography of Jean Luc Picard", Q brings Data back in B4's body, perhaps feeling that he owes the android one for saving him in "Deja Q". Or maybe just because he misses him.
     
  7. Orphalesion

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    Ew..."Q snips his fingers" should never be the solution to a serious character problem like that.
     
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  8. Amaris

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    I'd like to see Kirk and Spock as women, and that they're in a romantic relationship with one another.

    On another similar and less provocative note, I'd love to see more LGBTQ+ representation, and not just side characters, but main characters. A transgender captain would be awesome.
     
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  9. plynch

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    Only doctors can prescribe meds. PA’s, nurse practitioners, and nurses have the skills and legal ability to do an awful lot of medical doings.

    Now anyway, which is the usual basis of much of any Trek.
     
  10. Lord Garth

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    Controversial Opinion: ENT Season 3 was more of a forerunner of New Trek than DS9. Why do I say this? ENT S3 had serialized storytelling, but it also finished its story arc in one season, just like DSC and PIC do. I'm not a fan of ENT, so I wouldn't make this type of observation if I wasn't serious about it.
     
  11. Lord Garth

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    I'm a firm believer that any romantic relationship between Kirk and Spock has to be between them as men.

    The horndogs want, "Oh yeah! Girl on girl!" With something between Kirk and Spock, they have to be denied that. People like that don't give a shit about LGBTQIA+ Representation. They just want to get a hard-on. That's low-hanging fruit... in more than one sense of the meaning.
     
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  12. Oddish

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    Or, maybe just let those two be straight, and appreciate current Trek's commitment to inclusiveness.
     
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  13. plynch

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    “Two men who are really close need to be gay.” Really impoverishes or shortchanges the depth of friendship and love men can have. I do realize you’re saying IF they were gonna be romantic, let them stay as men, which I’d concur with, based on your reasoning. You’re post was reminding me of mirror Jadzia and Kira’s kiss!
     
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    Ahem. City on the Edge of Forever is successful in spite of Harlan Ellison not because of him.

    Thank you.
     
  15. Amaris

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    I would be in favor of Kirk and Spock in a romantic relationship as men, too, that's fine. I would also like to see them as women, and in a romantic relationship.

    As for what some of the fans might say with two women in a sexual relationship, meh, fuck 'em. That's why it's my controversial Trek opinion. :D
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    Um...am I understanding correctly that you are saying only doctors can prescribe medications? Because, PA's, and nurse practitioners have prescribing power based upon their degree and training. It is more limited, and usually there is medical oversight by a doctor, but they can still write scripts for medications.
     
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  17. Amaris

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    Yep. I have a Nurse Practitioner as my primary, and she handles all of my medications.
     
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  18. Vger23

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    Here’s a controversial Trek opinion:

    I’d like to see Trek avoid romantic relationship-based plot lines all together when it comes to ‘shipping of main characters. Trek is generally shitty at it anyway, and frankly I tune in to Star Trek too see space adventure stories, not the same generic romantic relationship stuff I can get out of any other show available today.

    Stay away from it, keep the focus on the camaraderie and conflicts between the characters and the sci-if adventure components. The “romantic relationship” stuff is a dime-a-dozen and a sloppy, lazy substitute for true character development.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    Yup, same here. My mom used to run an anti-coag clinic within a larger organization as an NP. I work in an agency that has NP's as psychiatric prescribers. NPs wield a lot of medical power.
    I mostly feel the same. I do understand that Star Trek is about the human experience, and I understand that romance is a part of that experience. Hell, I use to enjoy romances as a genre, and talking with friends about what romance looks like remains one of my high points in college bull sessions. But, as much as I like Star Trek romance is not something I find that it does well. It tends to trade in tropes of romance, i.e. conflicts around time being spent together, balancing duty vs. personal interest, etc.

    If you're going to do a romantic relationship then I would do it like a workplace procedural show, with the relationship as part of the background tapestry. It doesn't require constant focus, but can be apart of the story. I just have not enjoyed Trek's focused romance episodes.
     
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  20. 1001001

    1001001 Serial Canon Violator Moderator

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    Yeah I was confused by that post too. Was he saying that in Star Trek we only see Physicians prescribing meds?

    I have many PA’s and FNP’s who work for me and prescribe all kinds of meds, including controlled substances.
     
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