In case anyone is looking for the posts regarding the Roddenberry Archive / OTOY, it was all sliced out of this thread and put into a brand new one here.
Hey peeps! We at the Roddenberry Archive had a major release today, including some documentary videos and a website in which you can stream an interactive 3D experience of almost all of the Enterprise bridges! Much of the bridge work that I showcased here and other threads has made it into this release, albeit all of it was remastered at some point. Check it out here: https://roddenberry.x.io/ I recommend viewing it on a desktop computer. Currently, the 3D interactive streams aren't loadable on Firefox, so I suggest using Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge, or another browser to view the interactive streams. Each timeline entry will bring up a ship image and a bridge panorama. But hitting the "Enable Navigation" button will start the stream loading process. Please give it a few minutes to load. Once in, you can press "O" to adjust things like camera height, field of view to your liking. (Our default field of view is 60, but I recommend something higher like 90, especially if you're used to 3D games). Use your mouse to move the camera and WASD keys to move your "character". Right-click to zoom in. Have a go at it! A couple of things that are relevant to this thread are the TOS bridges from the two pilots, across all three seasons, the Mirror Universe TOS bridge, and our interpretation of what the TAS bridge would've looked like had it been constructed as a real set following TOS's third season. The Cage Enterprise Bridge WNMHGB Enterprise Bridge TOS Season 1 Enterprise Bridge TOS Season 2 Enterprise Bridge TOS Season 3 Enterprise Bridge TAS Enterprise Bridge Mirror Mirror Enterprise Bridge But even still, there's tons of other rad stuff on the timeline that I and other created for this experience. I hope you all enjoy the work we've done. Here are links to some videos we've released today as well.
@Donny - All the bridges were fun to walk around in. So COOL! I was wondering though on the WNMHGB bridge was it decided to align it to the regular series bridge rather than have the pit area and railings rotated 1/2 a station as seen in the episode?
Yes, we discussed that at length when I introduced this bridge into the project. We felt that since this is an “in-universe” version of the bridge, and to maintain the story we were trying to tell through the bridge timelapse sequence in the Enterprise A-Z video, that it would be best if we aligned the view screen directly ahead of the captain, and all other stations rotated with it into their more familiar positions.
Thanks for clarifying that @Donny . Here's a silly question - did the research ever come across two circular transparent targeting "things" that were present in only behind-the-scenes photos of "The Cage" bridge? They would've been on the forward starboard side near the main viewer, possibly on the small half-station. Just curious.
Donny, first let me tell you how much I appreciate your awesome wirk. Looking at your picture of the inside of the Jefferies tube - upwards - it seems to me that the upper exit would have a straight cut to the tube (90 degrees) rather than leading to another corridor on the floor above. The Jefferies sketch shows that the cuts of the tube - beginning and ending - would be parallel.
Seeing TAS 3D version of the bridge was surreal to look at but I kept wondering would the exterior of the Enterprise bridge be altered to accommodate this update? The cartoon is one thing, but translating it to the real thing is different.
I assume you're referring to the second exit added to the interior design? Although the original intent was to add a second Turbo lift, it was never actually used as such in TAS, and the one glimpse we get behind that door is somewhat vague and open to interpretation. I think it's best to leave it up to each fans interpretation and neither confirm nor deny if its a T/L or just an exit leading to a gangway. My own feeling is that since there was no T/L shaft added to the exterior, then this door cannot open into one, so it must be just a second exit, but not a T/L station.
Well not that vague, the details seen (grey segmented wall, mid height rail) are a match for how the turbolift was depicted in TAS The only thing missing is the control handle. Is it possible that an animation error could have slipped in? In TAS of all places???
Re: A second turbolift. It's worth noting that the TAS Enterprise doesn't actually have the external turbolift thingie at the back of the bridge dome either.
Having two turbo lifts was the original intent for the design of the Enterprise? I didn't know this, I'd love to see the designs for that? Was it because of budget the reason it was decided to go with what we know?
@STEPhon IT I read that as original intent when they added the second exit on TAS, not original intent from the beginning of TOS.
I never noticed that before! Also, the bridge dome appears to be similar to the pilots' taller dome, giving more head space for the turbolifts. Is the turbolift shape different; smaller with less depth, possibly to fit inside the curved dome, so, no exterior bump is needed?
Well, I guess "somewhat vague" is in the eye of the beholder as it were. Besides, I had already conceded that the Intent for TAS was that its be a 2nd T/L, but the fact that it lacks the control handle is one of the things suggesting that it might not be a T/L after all. This is also open to interpretation. Should we assume that the top of the turboshaft 'nub' was just such a tiny detail that it was not drawn on the animation cells? or. should we take this to mean that the bridge dome is now large enough to cover the T/L 'nub(s)'? YMMV. Edit to add; The longer secondary hull is another difference that may, or may not, have been meaningful. It does, however, accommodate the longer shuttle-craft hangar, for whatever that's worth.