Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

Actually it helped it. Honestly had TNG been a Network show they probably would have asked it after 13 episodes.

 

Sure for staying on the air, but I was speaking of Emmy consideration. How often do syndicated shows get nominated for Emmys? Now obviously syndicated game shows get Daytime Emmys all the time, but I'm talking about the prestige prime time awards.

 

Well you have to remember also that TNG was one of the first first run syndication shows in the Revival of that type of distribution. First run syndication pretty much died out in the late 1950s.

Given that TNG was Emmy nominated in many technical areas (like All Star Trek series including the current ones); it certainly wasn't the fact that the Academy was not looking at the show.

 

Look at the wiki page for Drama nominations, it happened a couple of times in the early days. TNG was the only syndicated show nominated in recent decades and that was in it's seventh season.

 

And I was taking about the Emmy awards. The Academy has an eversion to space SF shows.

 

I haven't noticed any decline in the quality.

 

If anything the AR wall has bumped things up.

 

I cannot say the emmy standard has dropped what I will say is that they have just expanded their nominees and still SNW would not be good enough for many reasons. I know SNW needs to appeal to young people but the story arc could use more depth that could rival Joss Whedon Buffy even when it gets episodic and buffy was catered towards young people, however Buffy still had some masterpiece tv moments that SNW has yet to get on the level off. Also some of the story lines like the spock/trping/chapel triangle is very high school written that it will not impress Emmy voters even if the emmys have welcomed prime time soap operas in the past.

If DS9 and TNG were 2022 shows, it would have gotten many nominations for acting, writing and directing more than a show like the star wars Mandalorian and no disrespect to Wandavison Paul Betteny but him getting an Emmy nomination as Vision/White Vision, when Bret Spencer never got a nomination for playing Data/Lore/Soong all those years is laughable but unacceptable now and Wandavision was far more impressive in concept than SNW.

Perhaps we should thank Discovery and Picard that have been a low bar that SNW could easily be seen as better than, but it still need lots of work to be another Netflix stranger things in creative writing.

 

I did, but dont worry I also saw a decline of quality in game of thrones last season both in writing and budget although game of thrones still had some good characters to distract from general quality issues, Discovery barely has any good characters apart from Saru so it is more noticeable.

Many SNW star ship scenes looked very cheap and iron plastic compared to Discovery season 1 and 2. Also I don't like that Paramount plus is making it very obvious they are reusing discovery star ship set for SNW. It adds a lot to making the show look more cheap.

 

That's an opinion I, a lot of people don't agree with.

 

Please remember that I compared discovery to game of thrones and yes even in writing, SNW is not in the league of GOT best seasons, but TNG is.

we can agree to disagree but it will take strong objective analytical debate to make a case that discovery characters are more interesting or more three dimensional like some game of thrones characters (Arya, Jon Snow, Cerssi, Tyron) to name a few that still had their a game till the end) heck even Sansa Stark grew from annoying to likeable by season 8 unlike Michael Burnham who has been forever annoying since season 1.

SNW characters may not be as cardboard as Discovery characters because it is an ensemble show, however the characters still come of as very paint and dry by numbers and this is due to the derivate writing and sometimes bad dialogue because the show is trying to hard to be cool for this marvel generation.

 

SNW looks a lot better visually than Discovery.

SNW isn't reusing any sets from Discovery, other than some parts of the Enterprise bridge they made for Season 2, since it would be a waste of money not to. They don't even film at the same soundstages in Toronto. They're about a 20-30 minute drive from each other.

Parts of Discovery Season 4 and SNW Season 1 were filming at the same time too, no way they were reusing sets.

 

These arguments contain more Fail than the Octomom's birth control regimen.

 

I misread Octomom's as 'Ottoman's' and was confused for a second.

 

The Ottoman Empire no longer exists so my reproductive failure analogy would still work.

 

Saturn nominations...

 

Who, pray tell, would we have such a debate with? Because your posts so far contain nothing objective and display no strong analytical qualities.

And as others have said, SNW does not reuse sets from the other Trek shows. The one set that they carried over elements from is at least fifty percent new (this is objective; at least five of the ten sections have been redesigned, reconstructed, or built for the first time for SNW, as have all of the digital video displays).

So, you're flat out wrong on the facts, here, further establishing that you're not providing any observant information in your assertions.

So, there's no reason given in your posts for us to "agree to disagree;" most of what you assert is flatly wrong.

 

Nope. It just takes subjective appreciation of different characters. I find none of the Game of Throne characters likable. Give me Michael Burnham over any of them any day of the week.

 

I look forward to @valden twisting this into an attempted win for him and his continued issues with Peck and Bush.