DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

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  1. TREK_GOD_1

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    Which "DC fans" are you referring to? Any production meeting its end (or never going before cameras) on HBOMax are not exactly swelling with support from those who want to see DC properties adapted. Most are niche productions, much like the CW series, and when they go, there's no massive outcry (as in the cancellation of Supergirl, Batwoman and Legends).

    I believe the theoretical intent (beyond primary financial concerns) is to finally streamline DC adapted content, and not have 50 different visions (many of low quality / misguided approaches) out there muddying the waters. This is where the planned theatrical films likely come into play, as they are a line of continuity with one framing voice, and if ever they feel the need to dip into a "multiverse" (e.g. the Flash movie), it will happen in that aforementioned streamlined manner, with no one ever questioning why Character-B from some syndicated series is not appearing with Big Screen Character-A, etc. Every film franchise does not need 800,000 universe and characters running around in order to function.
     
  2. wayoung

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    Considering how this is playing out he may find out with the rest of us. Repeating WB's same day digital release announcement where they didn't tell the cast or crew (or production companies...) of the movies beforehand.
     
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  3. Skywalker

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    This is such a bummer. Not just for the DC stuff, but HBO Max might actually be the best of the big streaming services out there. It has so much good stuff on it and now it might be going away.
     
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    Maybe this happened awhile ago, but dccomics.com redirects to dc.com. And that site now features movies and other products more prominently than the comics--which are relegated to relatively minor subsection. Not sure what that says, if anything about the future of comics--but right now, DC is probably at its least diversified selection of monthlies in my lifetime.
     
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    Leslie Grace responds



    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...eslie-grace-responds-film-shelved-1235192379/

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...eslie-grace-responds-film-shelved-1235192379/
     
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  8. TREK_GOD_1

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    Over the past 50 years, comics have rarely been the strongest source of revenue for superhero properties, so its no surprise DC's books have taken a back seat to other media. This dates back to the 1970s when comics legend (and then-DC president) Carmine Infantino said licensing--specifically merchandising--made far more than the comics at any time. Toys, stationary, licensed art, apparel, audio and video media were the items which kept comic companies alive.

    Even during the horrid 1990's of Marvel and Image gimmick comics barf, Marvel's merchandising brought in earnings none of their comics could on their best month. In this century, the industry has simply taken a public stand and no longer hide the fact that adaptations and merchandising are the first home of superheroes, while the comics are in a supportive position.
     
  9. Saul

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    That would really suck. It's a shame if they lose James Gunn over this.
     
  10. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Yeah, so?

    If you're saying this was always the case for half a century, it's still a story that it's THIS moment they decide to hide the "comics" aspect of the brand.

    People are going to defend this Titanic even when it's scraping the ocean floor, simply because Snyder touched it for a moment.
     
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    Merch has always outsold comics. It also outsells movies. Lucas learned where the real money was to be made.
     
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  12. The Realist

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    :wah:

    This is the worst news out of any of this (so far). I had little interest in Batgirl anyway, and HBO Max, like all streaming everything, can KMA. But I have high hopes for Sasha Calle's Supergirl, and I would have loved to see her continue beyond The Flash.
     
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    As always, you're awfully trusting of studio spin. Don't you recognize PR-speak when you hear it? That the studio says Batgirl's quality wasn't an issue is meaningless in any consideration of the actual facts.

    Mind you, it's entirely possible, even likely, that it was purely an accounting decision. But nothing the studio says in this situation should be assumed to bear even a nodding acquaintance with the truth.
     
  16. crookeddy

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    Nothing of the sort has occurred. The powers that be didn't want to completely burn bridges with anyone involved in the movie, so they said what they said. You always believe these people at face value and then act completely shocked when learning that they are lying. It's kind of hilarious how often you fall for it. Probably still believe Snyder wasn't fired lol
     
  17. crookeddy

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    Right? Isn't it weird how he does this every. single. time? I thought he must just be playing a character, but he's been at this for years... I have no explanations.
     
  18. Set Harth

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    Well she's like 18000 years old, I should hope so!
     
  19. crookeddy

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    You know, those fyc DVDs sent out for the max original movies are going to be pretty expensive now.
     
  20. DigificWriter

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    Variety and Deadline are completely unconnected to Warner Bros. Discovery, and were the first outlets to debunk reports from other sources about the quality of Batgirl being a motivation behind the decision to shelve the film. They were also among the first outlets, along with The Hollywood Reporter (which is also unconnected to Warner Bros. Discovery), to shed further light on the actual motivation behind shelving the film and stress/affirm that the decision was purely driven by a change in strategy first-and-foremost and financial considerations secondly.

    That is what I was referring to with the comment I made.