Studio that owns Star Wars to remake Star Wars rip-off

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  1. StCoop

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  2. Sketcher

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    Oh, Disney. Oh, Eragon. Oh, that movie that came out nearly twenty years ago. Cool.
     
  3. crookeddy

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    More Star Wars but with dragons? I see nothing wrong.
     
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    You don't see anything wrong with blatant plagiarism being supported, even if it's being supported by the company that now owns the property that was plagiarized?
     
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    If it’s supported by the company that owns the IP, it isn’t plagiarism.
     
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    Eragon itself - as well as the rest of the Inheritance Trilogy - was blatant plagiarism - of Star Wars, of Lord of the Rings, of Dune, and the list goes on - that never should have been published.

    That fact does not change even with Disney - who now own Star Wars - deciding to promote Eragon and the Inheritance Trilogy more broadly.

    Corporate-supported plagiarism is still plagiarism.
     
  7. wayoung

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    And it was written by a 15 year old kid. It's not the kids fault that he cribbed from other stuff - everything anyone writes at that age is a rip off or fan fiction. The fault lies with the people who published and then made a movie about it which, since they are now the same people who own the things he ripped off, aren't harming anyone else.

    I get not being interested in it, but complaining about a 15 year old plagiarizing books/movies owned by the same corporate entity as now owns the rights to his books is pretty pointless.

    Boycott Paolini's parents, publisher, agent, manager, etc. In this case, Disney is pretty blameless. Which is a weird sentence to write.
     
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    This isn't about blaming Disney for anything; it's about condemning and making fun of them for supporting and propagating a plagiarized property.
     
  9. wayoung

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    Except that Disney owns the rights to the property allegedly being plagiarized. If anything, by "propogating a plagiarized property" they're attempting to recoup their "losses" from the alleged plagerism.

    Captain Marvel is a rip off of Superman. I don't see you posting in the DC thread about how WB is propogating plagerism by making 3 Shazam movies in the DCEU. Because WB now owns the rights to both.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Star Wars ripped of Dune and The Hidden Fortress. Please, boycott Star Wars. I'd love to see that .
     
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    They literally mine "spice" on a desert planet in Star Wars... but we're going to trip out over a book "stealing" ideas? Come on now...
     
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    Star Trek aped Forbidden Planet and other “space navy” stories/frameworks from golden age scifi. Repackaging tropes isn’t plagiarism. Cheap and unimaginative, perhaps, if what you say about Eragon is accurate. But there is nothing new under the sun.
     
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    With Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones shows coming out, why wouldn't Disney do Star Wars with dragons to compete?
     
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    Would have been interesting if Herbert had actually pursued the lawsuit he talked about every so often. At one point Lynch was helping him prepare for it. Herbert had even suggested Lucas buying the rights to Dune as a solution to a potential lawsuit. I suspect we'd now live in a world where Disney owned Dune.
     
  15. fireproof78

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    Lucas making Dune. Would be an interesting project to be sure.
     
  16. wayoung

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    He'd have never made it, just owned the rights. We wouldn't have gotten the miniseries'. And then Disney would have made it.
     
  17. fireproof78

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    I mean...maybe? Lucas is an interesting guy but I wouldn't put it past him to try something with it, perhaps more experimental, perhaps animated. Or, we would have nothing and it would remain unadapted.

    It's anyone's guess.
     
  18. wayoung

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    Depends if this is pre or post Lynch's Dune. No way a remake would be made that quickly and after 88/89 Lucas did nothing but SW, Red Tails, and Crystal Skull.
     
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    Well, that owed far more to Lucas' personal life than anything else. I'm reading Rinzler's making of ROTJ book and that movie was stressful. Can't really fault him.

    As I said, I don't know. I just know I wouldn't have minded his take on the film, or post-Lynch, Dune: Messiah by Lucas.
     
  20. DigificWriter

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    @wayoung Disney didn't own Star Wars when the Inheritance Cycle (I erroneously called it a Trilogy) was published, and they don't own any of the other IPs that it blatantly and openly plagiarized.
     
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