Spoilers Season 3 wild speculation

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Dr Helen Noel, May 15, 2022.

  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Journeying onwards
    His history with mismanagement with other projects was also reported. At some point there is something more going on, for whatever reason.
    I got lost from TMP. So, I had to appreciate the art as presented, rather than trying to strictly treat it as literal history.
     
  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    'purged' is awfully aggressive. How do you know they didn't just leave? maybe they were just not happy there.
     
    Danja likes this.
  3. bdub76

    bdub76 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 11, 2022
    If this is the last season of PIC, then the show might take the opportunity to close some threads left open in the original TNG series. If Will is in it, then we can see some closure on his time on TNG.
     
  4. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    No ‘if’ here, it has been confirmed to be the final season.

    Wil said he isn’t in Season 3.
     
  5. bdub76

    bdub76 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 11, 2022
    Then, what loose ends from TNG would be worthwhile finishing up?
     
    Danja likes this.
  6. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Location:
    The Wormhole
    What "loose ends" does TNG even have?
     
  7. Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs

    Burning Hearts of Qo'nOs Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2017
    Location:
    House of Rutark
    We never found out what happened to Ensign Rager in the prime timeline.
     
  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Journeying onwards
    How the poker game ended.
     
    Danja likes this.
  9. cal888

    cal888 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2006
    Ok fair enough on the diction haha. In the Inglorious Treksperts podcast, Alexander and Coleite basically said their deals were up and the production couldn't afford them... but then several new co-executive producers came on staff... Also, it's been established that Nicholas Meyer took his name off the "Battle of the Binary Stars" and might have been out the same time as Fuller.

    I guess the way I view the beginning of Discovery is a what might have been. There are glipses of something much more in the first 7-8 episodes, then it drops during the mirror arc, then falls of a cliff once they get back with the time jump.

    It seems like higher ups at Paramount may have wanted a course correction, and Picard Season 3 could be it...
     
  10. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Location:
    The Wormhole
    The Mirror arc was always part of Fuller's season 1 plan. In fact, he wanted to do it much sooner, in the fifth episode.
     
  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
  12. cal888

    cal888 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2006
    I know the odds of this are low, but it would be awesome if after Kurtzman's STD* finishes, either Bryan Fuller or one of the established Star Trek novelists could adapt the original Discovery scripts and outlines into a novel.
     
    JRob94 likes this.
  13. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Journeying onwards
    I would be curious to know what Fuller had intended for Discovery to progress.
     
    JRob94 likes this.
  14. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    There was a Discovery Novel which showed a Timeline where Burnham decided not to mutiny and the war never happened.
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2022
  15. donners22

    donners22 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2001
    I recall a Trek show which "purged" Trek greats like David Gerrold and DC Fontana, and relied largely on rookies and a network suit. It turned out okay.

    What is shown on screen is merely a convenience for the viewer rather than a completely accurate depiction of what is occurring, and funnily enough one of your Trek greats established it conclusively. In The Undiscovered Country Chang is speaking Klingon in the trial which is being translated for Kirk and McCoy; the camera pans around and suddenly he's speaking English. We're meant to understand that he's still speaking Klingon - his line about not waiting for translation makes no sense otherwise - but it's presented in English for our convenience.

    I don't see how someone could, in good faith, accept the numerous stark visual inconsistencies (recasting, change of alien appearance, etc) and outright contradictions and retcons in canon (Spock stating the Eugenics Wars were Earth's last world war, the Borg Queen being retrospectively inserted into BoBW, etc) in oldTrek, yet reject it when it's done by the modern series.
     
  16. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Location:
    In a spoof of '50s sci-fi movies
    Back on the original topic... Star Trek: Picard Season 3 and Crazy Speculation about it. I've been thinking about what TOS Movies that PIC Season 3 can be influenced by and to what extent.

    GEN? Technically not a TOS Movie, but I'll include it anyway. I expect there to be a new Enterprise that isn't Picard's. I also expect Picard, like Kirk, to wonder about the path not taken.

    TUC? Picard never felt the animosity towards the Romulans that Kirk felt with the Klingons. So I don't see them going to that film. Except for maybe the possibility that Riker has his own command, much like Sulu had his own command.

    TFF? While I like TFF, I can't see Terry Matalas modeling anything after the least liked of the original Trek Movies.

    TVH? They just did that with Picard Season 2.

    TSFS? They kind of already did this with Picard Season 1. Picard goes on a mission to find Soji, who's the last link he knows of to Data. Someone who's death he hasn't made peace with because he feels survivor's guilt.

    TWOK? Maybe not the villain wanting revenge after X years, since I think it's supposed to be a new character. But definitely the idea that the crew have all moved on with their lives. Definitely Picard working at the Academy, dealing with Cadets. Maybe he's not fully satisfied with life as Chancellor of Starfleet Academy.

    TMP? They just did that with Discovery Season 4.

    So I'm thinking PIC Season 3 will have elements from TWOK, TUC, and GEN, but the actual story will be about something else. Something rooted from somewhere in TNG.

    I don't know off the top of my head, but now I'm wondering about that too... so, Challenge Accepted. There are probably some things I could list off if I think about it at a time that's not right now.
     
  17. cal888

    cal888 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2006
    RMB did a mini-podcast and stated there was pressure for change regarding Picard from high up people not from CBS or Paramount, after they were especially unhappy with season 2. Maybe Amazon, who are likely footing a high portion of the production budget? If so, that could indicate a pivot could take place within Lower Decks as well.

    Maybe the leaker was with Amazon?
     
  18. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2019
    Location:
    Unimatrix 259
    What kind of changes?
     
  19. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Journeying onwards
    Unless there is a source for this information I highly doubt there is much to it. Rumor at best.
     
    Danja and Kzinti like this.
  20. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2018
    I wonder if Worf will have white hair like in All Good Things, especially as Picard Season 3 is already something like 7 years after AGT's timeframe.