Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x09 - "All Those Who Wander"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, Jun 29, 2022.

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  1. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    Good episode in general. Only comment is they realllly power creeped the Gorn.

    Kirk beat an adult Gorn with some bamboo and gunpowder. Against these Gorn he's dinner in five minutes.
     
  2. Serveaux

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    IOW, he shot it and knocked it down. Didn't kill it.
     
  3. AlanC9

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    Did anyone else read this and think "what a great idea"?
     
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  4. cooleddie74

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    So far as we know James T. Kirk never killed a Gorn. The one encountered in TOS didn't die and Kirk refused to take his life.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    The Metrons were playing a game.
     
  6. JirinPanthosa

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    So you're saying they picked a below average Gorn to make the game fair to Kirk?
     
  7. AlanC9

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    I kind of like Brainsucker's idea upthread that what we're seeing aren't actually Gorn, but a Gorn bioweapon. Although I can also see the species sort of working like Larry Niven's Protectors in reverse; the intellectually-superior final developmental form is less physically capable and less controlled by instinct. But this is all something for future episodes.

    For a supposedly episodic show, there's an awful lot of carryover from one episode to the next, isn't there? I'm looking forward to seeing where Spock goes next.

    I'm rating it an 8. A bit too derivative, although that's not a huge problem. If I eventually end up actually being satisfied with how the Gorn work it's a 9.

    Losing Hemmer is such a bad decision that I have to wonder if something going on behind the scenes forced it. Has there been any chatter about the decision?
     
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  8. AlanC9

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    Or handicapped him somehow? It's not impossible for sufficiently advanced aliens.
     
  9. cooleddie74

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    This is probably how Gorn are as full, spacefaring adults. Slowish and lower metabolisms. They have to rely on technology to hunt and defeat enemies and prey.
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

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    Please proceed.

    Get the transcript.

    Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
     
  11. UssGlenn

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    It was planned from the beginning that Hemmer would die at the end of the season, and Horak was told upon being cast.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    No, I'm saying they leveled the playing field in some way.

    Or, Gorn are like humans and slow down as they get older.
     
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  13. Cyrus

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    I liked it. I am not too crazy about losing Hemmer, as he was my favorite new character. But he went out gloriously. I thought he was going to be the breakout character of this series but now that chance is gone.

    I assume the loss of Hemmer just before the end of the first season was planned right from the start. He was the Ned Stark/Lorca of this series.

    Like everyone else I immediately thought he will be replaced with Scotty next season.
     
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  14. Photoman15

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    I was thinking along some of those same lines (Spock having to wipe their relationship from Chapel OR Sarek wiping it from both of them for some reason).
    Spock did this for Kirk in "Requiem for Methuselah". "Forget". So there is precedent.
     
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  15. dupersuper

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    I guess the writers and producers of the show are in this minority then...

    I prefer to believe that Kirk is just that badass.
     
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    GORN CAPTAIN:
    I get knocked down
    But I get up again
    You're never gonna keep me down
    I get knocked down
    But I get up again
    You're never gonna keep me down.
     
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  17. Belz...

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    Ok so.. another very good episode. Tense and dark. A nice counterpoint to the earlier Gorn episode. I really enjoyed it.

    However... DAMMIT... why'd they have to kill off my main man? I'm genuinely pissed here.
     
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    LORCA: I wasn't merciful. And I wasn't quick. You can take the man out of the Mirror Universe, but you can't take the Mirror Universe out of the man.
     
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    I mean, for pete's sake you don't kill one of the main characters so early in an episodic series unless the actor's leaving AND you don't plan on bringing them back at some point. Getting real angry here, despite the fact that I really enjoyed the episode.

    As someone else mentioned, however, I wouldn't mind Scotty now and.. despite his age, I would definitely want Simon Pegg here. :)
     
  20. Serveaux

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    What on Earth would an "out-and-out soft reboot" even be?

    "Captain, they've completely destroyed the fleet. But only kind of a little." :lol:
     
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