Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x04 - "Memento Mori"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, May 25, 2022.

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  1. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, why didn’t the Enterprise use their drones? :)
     
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  2. Tuskin38

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    Really? Leading the enterprise into cestus 3 by imitating a commodore? Destroying the colony from orbit without so much a peep? They never tried to communicate. They attacked with no warning, and ignored the pleas from the colony.

    Basically what they did in this episode.
     
  3. thribs

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    They kept the dogs alive and so they’re not all bad.
     
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  4. Ar-Pharazon

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    It's officially The Pike Maneuver:lol:

    You gotta love a smartass.
     
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  6. JLBTucker

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    you could say they went a bit over bored wiping out a whole colony seems extreme when a "could you just leave" would porbbly work better as a start
     
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  7. Tuskin38

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    If the enterprise hadn’t showed up they probably would have starved to death. They were locked up.
     
  8. Ar-Pharazon

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    But "next time, they won't catch us by surprise". OK, maybe the time after that.
     
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  9. farbeyondthestars

    farbeyondthestars Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Oh they also had sparkly blankets in sickbay :adore:
     
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  10. Voodoowoman2

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    We don't know much. She's "nurse" with several research degrees and was Korby's "assistant". Did that mean she just cleaned the lab glassware and swept up? Presumably she is forced to serve as a nurse because no other slots are available. I'm pretty sure most people going out into deep space probably get some kind of nursing training.
    That's all we pretty much know. We don't know about any traumatic childhood incidents only the trauma with Korby. So, it seems to me that Chapel leaves the Enterprise at some point to either return to graduate school perhaps with a fellowship to work with Korby. We don't know when Chapel joined Enterprise. Pike doesn't seem to know her so it's probably recently.
    After "Little Girls" nothing much happens to her. With all this advanced biology training she winds up overseeing weather control on earth.
     
  11. DEWLine

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    Chapel seems to have at least one doctorate in a medicine-adjacent discipline, and has cross-trained to qualify for an RN after her name as well. At least until her time with Kirk's crew ends. Then she went back for her MD, too.

    The lady's a polymath-genius, or she wouldn't be there at all.
     
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  12. Voodoowoman2

    Voodoowoman2 Commander Red Shirt

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    As to medieval medicine. At the age of 16, the future Henry V of England, still Prince Hal, took an arrow to the face in battle. It went in under the eye socket and lodged there. He was taken to a castle and a special surgeon was summoned (Yes they had specialists). This surgeon devised a threaded screw type device to attach to the arrowhead and get the arrow out without catastrophic damage. Note that the only painting we have of Henry is with him facing full profile, presumably so the injury couldn't be seen. This doctor also devised an antibiotic for him which researchers replicated. It involved onion, garlic, and a copper bowl. They found that this deconcoction successfully killed methcillin resistant staph. Henry survived.
    First. There were no Dark Ages. Second. Medieval people were smarter than you give them credit for.
     
  13. Voodoowoman2

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    As to the IV drip. What vein precisely is that dripping into? The good veins near the skin are on the lower arm either on the hand, beneath the bend of the elbow or the one along the bone. That's not where you put an IV drip.
     
  14. bookworm8571

    bookworm8571 Commander Red Shirt

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    I don’t particularly care about the episode with Kirk battling the man in the lizard suit. This show has already improved on it a thousand fold by making the Gorn the Star Trek version of the velociraptors from Jurassic Park or the Alien from Aliens and La’an Noonien Singh the Newt who survived. Just consider that canon has been thoroughly tampered with by all the time travel the various Trek shows have done. I hope they do more of it and all of these characters have a different fate. This episode was great, could even become this show’s Balance of Terror.
     
  15. Romulan_spy

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    One thing that struck me. La'an says that she disagrees with the Federation idea that alien civilizations, even the most vicious, can eventually become friends when you open communication and understanding. She argues that the Gorn are simply monsters that can never be reasoned with. I wonder if that is a bit of foreshadowing for TOS' "Arena" episode. So we see the Gorn as monsters now, La'an certainly does because she is blinded by the trauma she experienced. But we know in Arena when Kirk fights a Gorn, we will start to maybe understand them a little. Maybe we will see them as less than monsters over time. In the end, the Federation idea of communication is correct, it just takes time. It can be hard to get over bias or prejudice towards an enemy but eventually, it is possible.
     
  16. Seven of Five

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    Woah that was tense. Bravo SNW!

    I gave this a 9, in a season full of 8s and 9s so far. ;)

    The engineering crisis that had Uhura helping Hemmer were some lovely scenes, especially as we learned a little more about Hemmer.

    La'an had the focus episode this week, and we discovered her history with the Gorn. The Gorn themselves seemed a little tougher than I remember them from TOS, but it was a good hook that led to the crew being caught out, and the ship dead in space.

    I loved Spock mentioning Burnham.
     
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    Which was nice, because usually the Gorn flesh you out.

    Again, the Federation was seen as the aggressor.
     
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    Why did you use Guinan for this post?
     
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  19. Nyotarules

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    Interesting but not IRL, if the enemy's foundational belief is that you have no right to exist , you are subhuman and should be exterminated, try reasoning with that. 1939-1945 comes to mind. (yeah, I went there).
    (In the Trek novels the 24th century UFP does make peace with the Gorn. I guess adding SNW canon to the mix they had to make the Gorn stop seeing UFP citizens as potential food sources, but the novels do not count)

    Anyway, really enjoyed this, gave it a 9. Watching how this show is produced it is a shame we will not get a reboot James Kirk and Enterprise crew modern T.V setting. Watching TOS now it is very dated (and in universe stupid) having most of the stories and landing party focus solely around Kirk, McCoy and Spock. An ensemble setting works much better. Pike, Spock and Una not always being a part of the landing party or focus does not make the episodes less entertaining.
     
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  20. DaveyNY

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    An IV can be placed anywhere along the arm that a vein is available, shallow or deep.
    The most obvious surface veins are used first, but I've done phlebotomy and there are times when you have to search for deep veins when the patient has nothing visible to find.
    That holds true for IV's as well.

    In this particular instance though, what they were doing was a blood transfusion not a simple IV, and they were apparently using a 23rd century device to do it.
    (the devices attached to the upper arms)
    We don't have anything now in 21st century medicine that allows the donor to wander around while being attached to the patient.
     
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