what color is Bashir's medical uniform supposed to be?

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  1. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I believe the only way we will truly know when the series is upgraded in Hi Def. There was a time where I thought Kirk's tunic was yellow and we all know it was not true.

    And no, it wasn't gold, but keep watching DS9.
     
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  2. Ar-Pharazon

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    Even if it were remastered, you could get wildly different colors form the same exact uniform. Depends on lighting a lot of the time. Tho letting something like this first example through after extensive remastering is pretty bad work.

    Same episode, same scene (Skin Of Evil-Tasha's Memorial)
    0123 Skin Of Evil-Bev's Uniform 1b.jpg
    0123 Skin Of Evil-Bev's Uniform 1c.jpg

    Sometimes, like others have said, the age of the uniform itself can make a difference. But some tweaking during the remastering process could have cured this one.
    Beverly & Man in blue uniforms 1c.jpg
     
  3. STEPhon IT

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    Holy S! You were so right on this one. I had to rewatch those episodes, some color correcting has to be done. Good eye.
     
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  4. KamenRiderBlade

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    I still like the Medical Officers having "White Uniforms" in DISCO.

    Say what you want about the ugly Assymetry, but "White" for medical looks good IMO.

    Better than Teal or Marine Blue.
     
  5. STEPhon IT

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    I would've preferred something close in comparison in "The Cage" since DISCO was in the same timeline. Everything about DISCO would be acceptable for me if it was in the timeline of PICARD.
     
  6. Timo

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    Or go the Abramsverse movie route, now that it's trivial budgetarily to have a ton of different uniforms even in a TV show. Have the heroes wear Flash Gordon style if need be, but sprinkle the background with subtle reminders of the "era-appropriate wear", just like nuKirk could wear TOS gold, V red, Starship Troopers grey or Marvel multi-bulging techno-blue in his various scenes.

    And DSC sorta did that, resurrecting the gold, bronze and silvery blue color scheme appropriate for "The Cage" or "Where No Man". Only they couldn't really make the silver sufficiently blue, what with having it on a dark blue background already. Heck, perhaps the uniforms should have been glittering silver in full 1930s style, so Burnham could have worn blue braid!

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  7. STEPhon IT

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    One person's crap is another person's treasure, that's DISCO.
     
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    You should see Spock's old uniform...
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    Colors fade over time and wear. But it's a great observation! I really think it makes more sense, as some have commented, to have medical professionals wear white uniforms, or white coats. The red surgical suits are also kinda creepy...
     
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  9. STEPhon IT

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    That is just one of the tunics has faded not all of them, which still do exist, appear in that state.
     
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  10. kkt

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    I'm not sure how much sense white uniforms would make as daily wear. Being a doctor can be pretty messy. If a patient comes into your sick bay bleeding gore all over, you don't want to tell them to please wait while you change into your scrubs.
     
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  11. Christopher

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    But in that case, you want bloodstains and such to stand out clearly on your clothes, since they'd be biohazards and you don't want to be unaware of them. I mean, that's part of why real-world lab coats are white. Also, part of why lab coats are worn is to protect your clothes underneath and make it easy to change if your coat gets contaminated.
     
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    You want to identify wounds and contaminants quickly in a medical setting.
     
  13. TommyR01D

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    It's interesting that the lower stripe on Wesley's tunic is green not blue in both pictures.

    A bit like Victoria's Privy Council dress.
     
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    If your doctor relies on eyesight to determine that her/his outfit is contaminated, you are in trouble.
     
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    The Disco white medical uniforms are also a nice throwback to the white medical uniforms on the Kelvin. There is some continuity between the Kelvin type uniforms and those from the era of Shenzou the Klingon War
     
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  16. McCoy's Disco Collar

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    A lot of Disco makes more sense in a Kelvin-adjacent context.
     
  17. kkt

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    I'm assuming uniforms are washed somehow and then reworn. So they could easily have some that are brand new and some that are years old, and the colors shift slightly even in DS9's time.
     
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    The Making of Star Trek said that the ship's laundry machines broke clothes down into their constituent fibers and then reconstituted them. In a Discovery episode, we saw a uniform being assembled on a molecular level, which seemed to be a variation on the same basic concept.

    Although we're already developing fabrics that resist getting dirty in the first place, or that self-clean.
     
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    In fact, I was once able to compare taped-off-TV versions of Episode 1 ("Emissary") from the USA (NTSC) and the commercial Australian rental tape (PAL) of the day - and what stunned me was the colour of Bashir and Dax's Starfleet uniforms. Neither appeared to be the correct "teal" colour for Science. One tape showed as green, while the other showed quite blue.

    TAS episode "The Terratin Incident" (or the "Log" adaptation?) mentions that Starfleet uniforms were made from algae, IIRC, which is why the clothes and boots shrank with the wearers but the equipment did not.

    And of course, Kirk demonstrates TMP's "spray 'n' wear clothing" in the sonic shower unit when he assembles the robe and shoes onto the Ilia Probe. In "The Prometheus Design" novel, someone tries to assassinate Spock with molten clothing in his tampered-with sonic shower.

    ST II and III ignored the "spray 'n' wear clothing" concept.

    Especially the dyes of the 1960s. Signage in the 2018 "Batman '66" exhibit at The Hollywood Museum in LA explained that early fabric dyes sat on the outside of lengths of fabric - and after laundering the fibres would twist and eventually show lesser-dyed sides of each thread. The dye appears to "fall off". Modern dyes permeate the threads and are less likely to change colour over time. They had the original Batman and Robin TV costumes beside modern screen-accurate recreations. And, of course, the recreations looked much better in the displays.
     
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  20. Richard S. Ta

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    That Spock uniform above... Has it turned pink over time or is it a case of lighting again?