Noah Hawley Movie Seems Dead
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Good for him??? 
Fans lose their minds of how sensors was pronounced as called out in Lower Decks. This is a very small threshold to surmount.
Fans lose their minds of how sensors was pronounced as called out in Lower Decks. This is a very small threshold to surmount.
Interesting that his Hawley Trek movie music may or may not turn up in Discovery season 4.
Grr I wanna know what it is!!
Being as that project was put on hold while it was still in pre-production, I'd be inclined to doubt that there *is* any "Hawley Trek movie music". With rare exception, the composer doesn't begin working until all filming and the bulk of post-production has been completed.
For a film composer, "started writing themes" is pretty much the equivalent of having made a few back-of-the-napkin sketches. He has some melodic ideas he thinks he might use. Which is great -- ideas are good, they're a place to start, but themes and motifs are not the film score any more than a few key sentences or character catchphrases constitute an entire novel or play.
Until there's something close to a finished film -- with time-codes and strict cue timings (down to tenths or hundredths of seconds) nailed down in final form, indicating precisely where music will go (as well as where it will not go) and for precisely how long each cue is to run -- there's not going to be a lot for the composer to work with. In film and television -- even with many ideas and themes sketched out -- the composer is typically the very last person to begin work, necessarily because they must wait until everyone else on the crew has completed their work first.
Yes, there have been composers involved earlier in the process than this, but it's an exceedingly rare occurrence, limited to a tiny handful of well-established composers (who end up doing a lot of extra work, because composing for a film that is still in the process of being made is essentially trying to hit a moving target. Much they might write never gets used, because the film has already changed one or more times while they were in the process of writing and arranging music to fit a scene which may no longer even exist.)
It's not unheard of to have a composer come in early I suspect all he had was and idea maybe he read the script and start making themes for different characters the ship maybe a battle or something nothing really locked down but something in his head.
But now that this isn't moving forward he may choose the themes for other characters other battles. If he's thinking of using the themes than the music what's up too far away from what he was doing in Discovery, which is to me a bit meh.
When Dennis McCarthy went from episodes to movies, he made it sound tng ish, but upped the quality.
But now that this isn't moving forward he may choose the themes for other characters other battles. If he's thinking of using the themes than the music what's up too far away from what he was doing in Discovery, which is to me a bit meh.
When Dennis McCarthy went from episodes to movies, he made it sound tng ish, but upped the quality.
I'm not trying to insult you. The poster you quoted said "Hawley Trek movie music", which I took to mean the back-of-the-napkin sketches, not finished full pieces (of course not). The idea with the original quote, I took, meant that some of these fun ideas that Jeff Russo got while reading the script and talking to Hawley might end up in Star Trek Discovery. Which, they likely will, because composers (I gather) are like other artists and will gobble up unfinished ideas for future projects.
Again, I'm not trying to insult your composition skills, just like I'd rather you not insult my meat-cutting skills, I'm just pointing out that you may have misread one or two comments before defending your stance as a composer. There is "Hawley Trek movie music", according to Jeff Russo, in the form of short written themes, that will likely be reused for other products. That's objective fact you can't really argue with, without redefining the terms, as you have done.
Ugh…
In one interview I remember Noah saying that the story would be new but tangentially related to a previous Star Trek story and he compared to how the Fargo show he works on relates to the film. I wonder what that Star Trek connection would have been.
It was reported to be a "space disease" tale wasn't it? So I think in the middle of a pandemic the studio read the script and backed out. That narrows it down to past episodes which dealt with raging plaques. Presumably one of those where McCoy races to find a cure for an epidemic, Kirk falls in love with an android and Spock begins to suspect her father is an immortal being.
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Being a fan of Fargo and having just completed Hawley’s singular show, Legion, I still feel bummed this didn’t happen. One of the great never-to-be Star Trek projects. I hope he gets something to do with Trek in some capacity one day, but I think he’s developing an Alien based show now?
I'm surprised they were willing to go with a new cast for the unmade movie. In my mind, I imagine it being Karl Urban doing his version of TMP Disco Bones with a team of space doctors saving the galaxy.
For all we know, the space pandemic was zombosis a la Lower Decks' first episode.
For all we know, the space pandemic was zombosis a la Lower Decks' first episode.
I thought the new cast thing was strange at first and then I thought about that "The Beginning" film thing and they were going to do that there too, sorta kinda. I think this film wouldn't have done super well but I also don't imagine it costing a lot. I keep thinking more like Deadpool budget, $60 million, maybe make $150-200.
Me too. I'm only just watchd Episode 8 of Season 1 and it's been my favourite show I've watched this year. Even before I'd seen it I liked his ideas about drama and action. In Fargo I was super hooked when the hitmen went after Malvo in the snow, or that exterior shot of the building when Malvo took out everyone inside.
Yeah, that Malvo scene where we see the exterior of a building while he wipes out Fargo is a perfect example of how Hawley likes to find new ways to visually present things. He really takes that to the extreme in Legion .
I won’t spoil a thing in Legion for you, other than to warn you that it does sag a bit in an overly long Season 2. It’s definitely worth sticking with it though. Only 27 episodes and in that time the show never loses the ability to be surprising.
I loved Legion. But that...
time travel reset, none of it happened
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